Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17077057)

You're missing the point. The idea that Veach would get flustered enough after losing a single game to cave to a number he didn't feel comfortable meeting before is absolutely ludicrous and it's the hallmark of a poorly run organization. The Chiefs are not that.

Remember, I'm the one who told you in another thread that this was a below average defense minus CJ when you were fantasizing about their being in the middle of the pack. I completely understand how important CJ is -- I just dispute the idea that a loss against the Lions should completely change how the front office operates. That's just idiotic.

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17076901)

In 2018 the defense was dog shit (with Jones), and a first-year Mahomes was one Dee Ford away from going to the Super Bowl anyway.

When Tyreek left, it forced Mahomes to be more patient, more surgical, and to spread the ball around more.

If Jones leaves, it just might weaken the defense enough that Reid and Mahomes have to go nuclear more often. Can Mahomes do that without Hill? I say yes, until it's proven he can't.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17077074)

I have a solution. Trade Shane Buechele for Nick Bosa and seven first rounders

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17076923)

Isn’t it concerning that we’re this far into the current leadership’s tenure that the absence of a single player potentially tanks the entire defense?

Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 17077072)

Until proven he can’t? Lol wow.

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17079646)

Why "wow"? So far, there has been nothing that Mahomes is incapable of as a QB, except for being a shitty QB.