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Buehler445 09-17-2023 05:10 PM

I was really impressed with the Defense. They were the toughest unit out of all of them in some really horrid conditions and playing a shitload of snaps. Holy shit. That’s not what I expected. That’s also not what I’ve seen in a long long time.

Maybe Jacksonville sucks :shrug:

Offense needs to happen or this boat don’t float. I still have every confidence it will, but the execution was ****ing ugly.

Kelce looked hobbled at the end. Hopefully he can recover.

Hopefully we rape the Bears for a half and get the offense right and then rest guys. But we know that won’t happen because we never blow anyone out.

DenverChief 09-17-2023 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 17115346)
2 drops, 2 personal fouls - Kelce needs to get his shit together. He'll be fine, but today was not a good debut to 2023.



I think this is more about trying to fire a team up. Nothing more, nothing less.

A Salt Weapon 09-17-2023 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 17115414)
It was a non-issue until Collinsworth decided it was an issue. Ergo, the league now targets him.

Pretty much, collinsworth has hated the Chiefs for decades, he was successful with all the Kareem Hunt chatter, tried again with Hill, he’ll latch onto anything that might hurt our success.

Calcountry 09-17-2023 05:40 PM

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Couch-Potato 09-17-2023 05:45 PM

I think every week there will be a different WR that stands out a little bit, we're a committee at the WR position.

I'd swap James out for Toney at KR & PR.

GloucesterChief 09-17-2023 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 17115695)
I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Defense is looking really good.

Buehler445 09-17-2023 05:52 PM

Goddamn. Feels good to get a win and the rest of the division to eat Ls.

Shag 09-17-2023 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17115559)
I think this is more about trying to fire a team up. Nothing more, nothing less.

Dropping passes and ripping his helmet off in frustration is firing the team up? ROFL

Hammock Parties 09-17-2023 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 17115695)
I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Because we are now THIS:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/af...00f216e35d.jpg

The 49ers had the #1 defense in the 1980s.

It is a vastly undersold and underrated part of their dynasty.

Great offenses make great teams. But dynasties ALWAYS have ONE THING in common.

DEFENSE

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...uA&oe=652F02C0

A storm is coming.

Wallcrawler 09-17-2023 08:08 PM

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

GloucesterChief 09-17-2023 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17116214)
Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

Part of playing good D is using the boundary lines as an extra defender. Squeeze WRs to the boundaries is a fundamental part of modern defense. Gives them less area to operate and since push outs are not a auto catch anymore it gives the DBs a bit of an advantage.

ChiefsFanatic 09-17-2023 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17115232)
I don't think I've ever seen the NFL and officials single out a player like they did today.

It's a load of horse shit.

Lane Johnson is a savvy veteran getting an advantage.

Taylor is cheating.

What's the difference? I think you know.

irafreak 09-17-2023 08:44 PM

A less than 100% kelce is definitely better than not having him at all. Guy still commands attention. I'm mean on 3rd and goal late in the game, he was hit by 3 defenders as he tried to catch the ball.

DenverChief 09-17-2023 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17116214)
Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.


I agree with almost all of this - the Kelce stuff is just Kelce being Kelce - I don't think this is a regression, I think it's his way of getting his team fired up. If it continues into other games and starts to negatively impact the team it will be concerning - until then....

A Salt Weapon 09-17-2023 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17116214)

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

I think the holding calls were still targeting him, I think because they couldn’t throw a flag for a false start or lining up wrong they were throwing holding flags as retaliation anyways. Jags were holding way more blatantly and being praised by the announcers for it.


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