Hell take a guy that's a bit of a project in round 2 even, just marinate him.

Stroud has everything you want in a QB. Accuracy first and foremost but he has a cool demeanor and is nails under pressure, like Mahomes.

He also isn't a guy that wants to run unless he has to. I'd never trade Mahomes but the guy I'd want if I couldn't have Mahomes is Stroud. Nobody else is really close.

One day Josh Allen and Lamar are going to RGIII themselves you watch.

Disagree in part. Any of those QBs could be just good enough to get a team to the SuperBowl...with a very strong supporting cast and/or dominant defense. i.e. Jimmy G.

The worst thing is to mortgage the future by trading top players and/or 1st round picks for a "pretty good" QB then expecting immediate results. Rinse and repeat every 4 years, resulting in decades of tears.

The best thing is to trade up for a superior QB, let him sit for a year behind a "pretty good" QB, surround him with a proven Head Coach, a HOF TE, O-Line, dynamic receivers and solid defense, then crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women.

The Dolphins have 4 incredible weapons. No excuse for scoring only 7 points. Phenomenal stuff from Spags and the KC defense.

But Miami fans are nuts if they are blaming the skill player talent on their team for that performance. Tua looked completely out of sorts in the Negative 25 degree conditions.

The worst thing is trying to do what the CHiefs did. It's not likely to be repeatable.

Trade up for a guy you think has the ability and mentality to be a top 5 guy. If you whiff, you get fired.

But if you have a QB you think can be "just good enough" if you put enough around him.....you're already done. You just don't seem to know it yet.

It's crazy that teams have high picks and draft the limited high floor player instead of the one with a high ceiling. Goff over Wentz, Tua over Herbert, Trubisky over Mahomes, Young over Stroud or Richardson.

If you're gonna draft a QB why even draft a guy that has a high floor? What sense does that make? Get the guy who flashes playmaking ability and has the arm to make all the throws.

I agree

"He may bust" Yeah, he probably will. But taking Tua just caps yourself.

OP said Gibbs was a bad first round pick tho

He was.

Trubisky was not a high floor guy. He barely had starting experience in college, which is a major red flag.

He's not throwing to receivers signed from Dollar General anymore.

I think I'm more inclined to believe in this. Mahomes is a generational talent, but I think its safe to say he wouldn't be close to what he is now if he got drafted by say the Bears.

HC, GM, QB is the holy trinity. You nail those 3, then everything else kinda falls into place.

Yeah, we don't wanna think about it but.......alot of it is just luck.

And...the gypsy curse of death.

And...the gypsy curse of death. Good luck in your next career Lamar!