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O.city 01-29-2024 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17374374)
Look...I get what he's saying but ultimately I think it's a cop out fir just how bad they reacted to Baltimores adjustments on defense. It also allowed our defense to be on the field all half and the Ravens moved the ball at will in the 2nd half.

Our offense isn't the fire breathing dragon it was before. The Raven defense is probably better than our offense. Even when we were playing well in the first half, it wasn't exactly just blasting around.

wazu 01-29-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17374321)
I just dont understand the thought process behind "not needing to."

This team should never be content. Too many games reach uncomfortable stages because we get content. The game was only ever 10 points of separation for 3 quarters. I can't imagine a world in which that little of a lead should ever be considered "enough."

Of course we'd all love to have more. The results of the game show we didn't "need" it. By not taking risks we instead were going to force Lamar to drive the field on our elite defense. The Ravens D was able to hold us from scoring, but they were never able to get that game-changing takeaway to make things easy for Lamar. I love it.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17374358)
Absolutely. But (and I think this is what DJ is getting at) when we did end up losing those games, it usually was because the offense did something stupid and put the D in bad spots.

Correct.

How many of those games were games we were controlling on defense but we gave the opponent a short field or a defensive score?

We lost because we wouldn't dial the risk knob down, keep the clock moving and let the defense bring it home.

We handled the game against Baltimore differently than we did the games against, say, Philly or LV.

And that's why the outcome was different. This team is winning with what they have and using it extremely well.

notorious 01-29-2024 09:37 AM

I will take a win if it's 2-0. Style points are for arena football!

Chiefspants 01-29-2024 09:37 AM

It was literally the gameplan the Elway Broncos rolled out against Grbac and the Chiefs in the 98 playoffs.

To paraphrase Shannon Sharpe, “if we didn’t turn it over in our territory, that offense just wasn’t capable of putting up 7 against our defense. Our plan was to beat Martyball with Martyball.”

That always salted the wound growing up, but damn if daring Lamar to beat us with his arm didn’t work wonders. We also got a Marty playoff performance from Harbaugh who completely abandoned his #1 rushing offense for no reason in the second half.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17374361)
Did we though? We went for it on 4th down at like their 20 yard line. I dont see how we turned the risk knob to 0. We were struggling.

That was earlier in the game when we still weren't sure what Baltimore had on offense.

I don't think we came into this game expecting to do what we did. I think we decided in the 2nd half that the adjustments to make were to take the air out of the football and force Baltimore to work to win it.

If 4th down play happens in the 3rd quarter, we take the points, IMO. But at that point in the game, we were still feeling out the game script.

stevieray 01-29-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17374378)
It was a stud play that was awarded by the same dumb****ery that caused Hardman to fumble at the 1 against the Bills. Do you credit the Bills for that fumble too?

those plays aren't within a million mile of each other.

Flowers stuck that ball out like a whack a mole, and Sneed flew in like a ninja and five fingered the ball.


....the true dagger was the INT.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2024 09:38 AM

Guys, the 2018 Pats offense wasn't a juggernaut whatsoever. Very comparable to us here in fact. A couple HOFers, good OL, and some JAGs.

One week against us, they scored 38 because our defense stunk and that's what they had to do. Then in the Super Bowl, they scored 13 and protected the ball because that's all they needed to do.

Just win playoff games however you can.

St. Patty's Fire 01-29-2024 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17374385)
Correct.

How many of those games were games we were controlling on defense but we gave the opponent a short field or a defensive score?

We lost because we wouldn't dial the risk knob down, keep the clock moving and let the defense bring it home.

We handled the game against Baltimore differently than we did the games against, say, Philly or LV.

And that's why the outcome was different. This team is winning with what they have and using it extremely well.

the LV game is an amazing example. our defense was shutting them down but we just had to be dumb and give them easy fields with dumb decisions on offense. def a game where if we just played through our D like we did yesterday, we would have won

dannybcaitlyn 01-29-2024 09:38 AM

I thought it was a tad bit too conservative. Would have liked a few conversions for first because our defensive guys tongues were hanging out at the end there. But hey, it all worked out!

displacedinMN 01-29-2024 09:39 AM

OP-great point

they knew what they could get, then made them pay with the MVS throw. Was that the longest of the day?

Then boom. Game. It is amazing that the Chiefs only scored 17 pts in an AFCCG and won.

Rausch 01-29-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17374401)
I thought it was a tad bit too conservative. Would have liked a few conversions for first because our defensive guys tongues were hanging out at the end there. But hey, it all worked out!

Even a flawed Mahomes performance is unbeatable...

DJ's left nut 01-29-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17374372)
I really didn't like it because it was a free possession, so take the free points... but was totally content with 17-7, because who knows what happens if they make a FG there and how the Ravens play calling changes.... was just happy to hold them off the board and tack on the 3 to end the half.

Yeah, on the road, I wanted him to take the points. Keep the crowd quiet and don't give them any momentum back after you get a free possession.

I thought that play was a mistake but ultimately I think that play was also part of the learning process that lead to the conservative 2nd half.

The Franchise 01-29-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17374321)
I just dont understand the thought process behind "not needing to."

This team should never be content. Too many games reach uncomfortable stages because we get content. The game was only ever 10 points of separation for 3 quarters. I can't imagine a world in which that little of a lead should ever be considered "enough."

Have you not watched enough early Chiefs game this season to see what happens in close games when players don't execute?

jd1020 01-29-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17374407)
Have you not watched enough early Chiefs game this season to see what happens in close games when players don't execute?

So why play like we can just execute at will? Even Mahomes has shown he can't execute at will this year. If it's not there, dont take it, but dont completely remove the option for it to be there.


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