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The Franchise 02-12-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17397470)
Yeah, I'm not sure there's a world where Andy takes the FG to tie unless they're facing 4th and 6+ from the 35 (where even converting leaves you a fair distance yet to go).

It's why I say I'm not sure what Shanahan did truly would've mattered. If there was a mistake in OT, it was passing the ball on 3rd down and leaving yourself a longer 4th down play that convinced you to kick it.

Shanahan should've treated that gold zone scenario as 4-down territory, ESPECIALLY after CMC had that nice run on 1st down. That was his coaching failure - not taking the ball.

Once again....Shanahan passed when he should have been running.

ghak99 02-12-2024 09:53 AM

A lot of players are dumb. Like, real dumb.

I'm more surprised with their coach's decision than any player not knowing the rules. He basically handled us 4 down knowledge. That's huge.

ChiefsCountry 02-12-2024 09:58 AM

The 49ers were just like pete

George Liquor 02-12-2024 10:00 AM

Not my problem

Eleazar 02-12-2024 10:02 AM

I thought I saw a clip from Mahomes visiting the postgame desk where he said we may have kicked to start overtime too. Anyone else?

Rainbarrel 02-12-2024 10:02 AM

Whine me up and turn me lose

ChiTown 02-12-2024 10:02 AM

That’s why we’re the Chiefs and they’re the losers. F em

jd1020 02-12-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17397359)
There’s no good justification for taking the ball first.

I almost wonder if Shanahan didn’t know or remember, and then made up that analytic shit to justify it.

Not sure I agree.

I can see the logic behind it. The rules are that both teams have the opportunity to possess the ball 1 time. After that if the score is still tied then it's back to sudden death. The Chiefs defense was gassed. So you take the ball first and go score. Then the Chiefs score. Now you have the ball to go win it with a FG. The problem is, if you take the ball first you need to treat it like TD or bust and they kicked a FG like the 5.

RunKC 02-12-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17397509)
Once again....Shanahan passed when he should have been running.

And they had us. It was a damn good playcall. In fact, it was very similar to our playcall that won the game ironically.

They called their own version of corndog and had the perfect matchup. They forced us to put Sneed and McDuffie at the top by bunching Deebo and Aiyuk. They kept killing us by going to Jauan Jennings and Shannahan matched him up on Watson.

They completely forgot to block Chris Jones. I have no idea why but Chris Jones ran free untouched and ruined that play, which is inexcusable. If they simply block him for even a second, that's an easy first down and they get the TD.

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HemiEd 02-12-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17397364)
Eh, I'm not sure taking it first is as big of a deal as some are making it out to be. The computer says there isn't much change either way, and taking it first can end up giving you a 2nd possession.

What?

It is like a new game and is played until someone wins. It could take several possessions, taking it first was not an advantage in that regard. It's not like the regular season where it could end up in a tie.

The only advantage I see in taking it first is putting tremendous pressure on the other team if you score, but the Chiefs have a QB who feeds off pressure.

jerryaldini 02-12-2024 10:22 AM

Jones said Andy's plan was to go for 2 if SF got a TD. Wow!

DJ's left nut 02-12-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17397580)
Jones said Andy's plan was to go for 2 if SF got a TD. Wow!

Well I think we all saw the play he would've run there...

Sure looks like he was saving that play for a 'gotta have it' moment. Because damn that was as easy as stealing. And it seems like just about everyone involved in it knew it was going to work.

DJJasonp 02-12-2024 10:28 AM

the whole time I was thinking: Has Shanahan ever watched a college FB game???
NO ONE ever takes the ball first.

KC_Connection 02-12-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17397479)
It’s silly to say it’s an obvious decision to defer. For one, you have to factor in your team. Defense was. And do you trust Purdy to get a TD under the pressure if he needs one on their OT possession?

And people are really overplaying the value of the Chiefs knowing what they need to do. This isn’t an end of game scenario. The Chiefs having the fourth down advantage pretty much ends after they get to the opponents 30 yard line unless they need a TD. If the 49ers didn’t score or just get a field goal then the Chiefs aren’t just automatically going for every fourth down in opponents territory.

And in this game specifically, where field goals were more prominent than TDs, a field goal by each team wasn’t that unlikely.

I would lean defer with Mahomes and our team but it’s definitely not a no brainer depending on the game circumstances and team you have.

Deferring is the obvious choice because you want to maximize your own control of the outcome and play with as many downs as possible offensively. Sure, the Chiefs might not use all four downs once they get within FG range, but going 2nd at least gives them the option to do so (which would matter a hell of a lot more on an early Mahomes Chief era team which had some horrible defenses, but matters nonetheless; although it's not like we were stopping Purdy/the 49ers from scoring on either of their last two drives).

It's a pretty easy decision and it is one that Shanahan botched.


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