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BryanBusby 02-29-2024 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17421926)
Going to be honest. I think Sneed definitely has the "system guy" label much like all the great Patriot players had over the years. Guys like Trey Flowers, Kyle Van Noy, etc. did absolutely nothing on other teams. With the incredible numbers Sneed put up there is no other justification to not get a first for him.

His market is definately better than Marcus Peters but not significantly better.

His market isn't better than a guy who went onto an NFL field with no ****ing socks on?

That's idiotic.

He's closer to 2 1's and a 4th Jalen Ramsey than no socks or tackling Peters that the Chiefs couldn't wait to dump.

Dunerdr 02-29-2024 07:01 AM

This has been gone over 100 times already. Sneed is older, not even close to the same player, has a knee and concussion issues, is the most penalized secondary player in the league and has never been a pro bowler or an all pro. Your looking at something closer to what Slay was traded for. I love Sneed as much as anyone but you have to be realistic.

loochy 02-29-2024 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17422290)
This has been gone over 100 times already. Sneed is older, not even close to the same player, has a knee and concussion issues, is the most penalized secondary player in the league and has never been a pro bowler or an all pro. Your looking at something closer to what Slay was traded for. I love Sneed as much as anyone but you have to be realistic.

Lol @ pro bowler

BigBeauford 02-29-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17422290)
This has been gone over 100 times already. Sneed is older, not even close to the same player, has a knee and concussion issues, is the most penalized secondary player in the league and has never been a pro bowler or an all pro. Your looking at something closer to what Slay was traded for. I love Sneed as much as anyone but you have to be realistic.

Yeah, the guy who shut down basically the NFLs top 5 wide receivers this year alone isn't valuable.

Chiefnj2 02-29-2024 08:08 AM

People who complain about Sneed's penalties obviously don't watch any games. He will purposefully take small penalties to get in the heads of #1 WRs and literally break them for the rest of the game. Oh no, an illegal hands to the face. So what, he limited the #1 WR to 4 catches for 35 yards and no TDs after that penalty. He has them hesitating off the line of scrimmage because they don't want to get punched in the mouth.

BigRedChief 02-29-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 17422317)
Yeah, the guy who shut down basically the NFLs top 5 wide receivers this year alone isn't valuable.

It seems the general consensus is that at most we get a #2. There has been only a handful that got a #1. Doesn't mean he wasn't the best or near the best coverage CB in the league.

Dunerdr 02-29-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 17422317)
Yeah, the guy who shut down basically the NFLs top 5 wide receivers this year alone isn't valuable.

I didn't say he wasnt of value. But these are the facts and this is what the argument against him will be like it or not. I'm not the bad guy. I'm just prepping you guys for the let down when its not two 1st round picks.

FloridaMan88 02-29-2024 09:14 AM

How crazy is it that Washington traded Champ Bailey + a 2nd round pick to Denver for Clinton Portis 20 years ago.

The only RB in today’s NFL that you’d even consider trading a shutdown CB like Sneed for in a similar trade is Christian McCaffrey.

DenverChief 02-29-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17422419)
How crazy is it that Washington traded Champ Bailey + a 2nd round pick to Denver for Clinton Portis 20 years ago.

The only RB in today’s NFL that you’d even consider trading a shutdown CB like Sneed for in a similar trade is Christian McCaffrey.

Just curious when did the Franchise tag change? I remember it used to work a little differently - but I don't remember how it worked exactly and when it changed.

Nightfyre 02-29-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17422290)
This has been gone over 100 times already. Sneed is older, not even close to the same player, has a knee and concussion issues, is the most penalized secondary player in the league and has never been a pro bowler or an all pro. Your looking at something closer to what Slay was traded for. I love Sneed as much as anyone but you have to be realistic.

It's like you didn't even watch the games. This was his best year by far. He's 27, not on the wrong side of 30. He has missed two games in the last three years. While compensation is likely to be a second and change, I wouldn't be surprised if Dan Campbell paid pick 29. Got any other shit takes?

O.city 02-29-2024 09:56 AM

I'd love to have pick 29. I wouldn't even use it to trade up, but imagine coming out of the first with (insert your WR of choice) and a LT?

That's a killer

DenverChief 02-29-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17422453)
Just curious when did the Franchise tag change? I remember it used to work a little differently - but I don't remember how it worked exactly and when it changed.

Maybe I'm just imagining things

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Joey Galloway, WR, Seahawks/Cowboys | Year: 2000

Let's be clear. The Seahawks made a great decision to franchise Galloway, even though he was 29 and had caught only 22 passes in 1999 after an eight-game holdout. The Cowboys made the huge blunder here. They were so infatuated with the idea of adding a playmaking receiver that they sent two first-round picks to acquire Galloway's rights. He never produced a 1,000-yard season for them and scored only 11 touchdowns in three full seasons before being traded again in 2004. The Seahawks used the picks to select running back Shaun Alexander in 2000 and receiver Koren Robinson in 2001.

Dunerdr 02-29-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17422473)
It's like you didn't even watch the games. This was his best year by far. He's 27, not on the wrong side of 30. He has missed two games in the last three years. While compensation is likely to be a second and change, I wouldn't be surprised if Dan Campbell paid pick 29. Got any other shit takes?

i wouldn't be surprised etiher. Theres been some two firsts talk "like Ramsey". I love sneed and would keep him. However my homer glasses arent thick enough to make me think hes getting a Ramsey haul. Just prepping this board for the next round of post Peters trade fall out. Dumbass. ;)

tredadda 02-29-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17422506)
i wouldn't be surprised etiher. Theres been some two firsts talk "like Ramsey". I love sneed and would keep him. However my homer glasses arent thick enough to make me think hes getting a Ramsey haul. Just prepping this board for the next round of post Peters trade fall out. Dumbass. ;)

To get that kind of haul for him they just need a GM like Les Snead. Doubt there are any GMs out there thinking like that right now.

Dunerdr 02-29-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17422517)
To get that kind of haul for him they just need a GM like Les Snead. Doubt there are any GMs out there thinking like that right now.

Exactly. I'm not down on Sneed in the least. I actually think i prefer him over Jones. I'm just being real.


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