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Hog's Gone Fishin 06-10-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17546961)
What’s the point of keeping Toney when there’s 3 guys already here that do exactly what he does?

Toney has the longest punt return in SB history and also did a one legged hop TD all the way through the endzone.

We have nobody else that's done either of those things

ThrobProng 06-10-2024 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17546992)
Toney has the longest punt return in SB history and also did a one legged hop TD all the way through the endzone.

We have nobody else that's done either of those things

You just gave a complete list of Toney's significant contributions to the Chiefs, and one of those things doesn't involve being a WR.

He should've been gone after the offsides call versus the Bills, if not sooner.

Mecca 06-10-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17547004)
You just gave a complete list of Toney's significant contributions to the Chiefs, and one of those things doesn't involve being a WR.

He should've been gone after the offsides call versus the Bills, if not sooner.

For the record that was an absolute awful call, by that standard offensive players lineup offsides 50% of the time.

ThrobProng 06-10-2024 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17547010)
For the record that was an absolute awful call, by that standard offensive players lineup offsides 50% of the time.

Yeah, but he shouldn't have been on the field anyway.

Why Not? 06-10-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17546986)
I get the feeling we're going to have a lot of Remigio circle jerks only for him to be released.

It's a tradition as old as time itself. The one "off the radar" guy (Remigio might have a bit more cred than that at this point but still) that CP falls in love with that is a virtual lock to amount to jack shit. I'm not making fun of any individual per se, as I have been in on a couple myself over the years, but it just goes to show how much more difficult it is to be a GM/coach/talent evaluator in the NFL than what your average message board jabroni thinks. Almost none of those guys that get cut ever go on to do shit in the NFL, proving the pros right and the keyboard jockeys wrong.

FloridaMan88 06-10-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17546986)
I get the feeling we're going to have a lot of Remigio circle jerks only for him to be released.

He supposedly has had a strong OTA’s the past few weeks… with like half of the WR depth chart not practicing.

chiefzilla1501 06-10-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17546963)
Skyy's here cause he's a 2nd round pick on a rookie contract.

All of these signings though say to me none of those guys are guaranteed spots.

Nah, I get his role but he’s just really not good at it. We have speed guys and we have Watson who needs to play with a lot of depth. Skyy is supposed to be that slot underneath guy who just runs real good routes and reads defenses well. He just sucks at both. Rice did some of that catch and run but I think most of us would like to see the chiefs use him more aggressively with a year under his belt (and that’s assuming he plays a full season). Add on top of that skyy is a willing system blocker.

Believe me I think the guy is a waste of space. I am just speaking to why they will probably keep him around unless they find a similar role guy. And everything in remigios scouting report indicates that he plays the same type of game.

chiefzilla1501 06-10-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17546986)
I get the feeling we're going to have a lot of Remigio circle jerks only for him to be released.

Nah, I don’t think we’ll see any of that. Hopefully we all learned that lesson the hard way last year. It’s more about eagerness for skyy to not waste space and hoping Niko can clear that low bar

VAChief 06-10-2024 02:45 PM

Toney seems to act like we owe him something instead of taking responsibility for what he needs to improve. Until he starts showing up and producing I think he is the odd man out. He has more talent than Moore, but his head is rarely right. I hope I am wrong, because he has the talent to be in the top 3 as a receiving threat on this team, but I doubt he will put in the work to show it to us.

Couch-Potato 06-10-2024 02:54 PM

Brown
Rice
Worthy
Watson
Hardman
Moore
Toney

*Slight chance that Remigio gets upgraded if Moore or Toney are somehow traded.

xztop123 06-10-2024 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17546917)
How?

How on earth can Skyy get open in any way other than being schemed open? And if you're going to scheme someone open, there's five other receivers who are more explosive.

Skyy Moore is a zone beating sure handed possession receiver. He’s designed to beat zone coverage.

Last year we faced endless amounts of man coverage due to poor speed/acceleration at wr.

This year we will face less man coverage.

I don’t think skyy will do that well but there’s your rationale .

Dante84 06-10-2024 03:07 PM

I think they keep Toney for the new return rule, as they may need two returners out there now.

LRZ, Worthy, Toney, Mecole. And I think Worthy moves into the starting lineup very early, and since he's a string bean, they may choose to roll with the other 3 options.

I think Skyy gets cut after camp, or it will come down to Skyy and Mecole for the final slot.

Coogs 06-10-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 17547198)
Toney seems to act like we owe him something instead of taking responsibility for what he needs to improve. Until he starts showing up and producing I think he is the odd man out. He has more talent than Moore, but his head is rarely right. I hope I am wrong, because he has the talent to be in the top 3 as a receiving threat on this team, but I doubt he will put in the work to show it to us.

We have not heard anything from Toney on social media since his outburst right before the Super Bowl. Maybe that was part of the conditions from Reid, Veach, and Hunt on remaining on the Cheifs roster. I am assuming the leash is short too. (I also assume Rice has probably been issued a list of non-acceptable actions by that trio.)

pugsnotdrugs19 06-10-2024 03:28 PM

Hardman is useful because he can be the burner that gives Brown and Worthy a breather when they need it along with his gadget stuff. Rice is the YAC/Zone beater when teams go zone heavy.

Watson is a lock, too sturdy as depth. Sounds like Remigio is working his way on the roster and that might make Skyy expendable, even though I think he could still be useful as ONLY a slot player. Ross still provides a skill the others don't, and for that reason he has a shot to stick.

I get that Toney is talented but he's so damn unreliable and if he won't accept a gadget role, he shouldn't be left to linger.

O.city 06-10-2024 03:29 PM

Andy doesn't do "slot" only players. They all move around alot.


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