Veach did not need vindication. He did the right thing and any reasonable person knew it.

It’s not beach vs Dorsey. Just some clowns trying to take credit away from Dorsey. Someone said he doesn’t get credit for kelce Andy does because he knew him years before the draft. And regardless of the revisionist history Mahomes is a Dorsey pick. Idgaf what the story says about Veach pouring the table for him. There’s a scout in every round pushing for his guy and scouts taking Andy film all the time. It’s called the off season.

I think Kareem would have been a salary cap casualty. He would have wanted above $10M per year and the Chiefs would not be able to pay him. He would have been gone after the 2020 season.

I don’t think there’s much chance we would’ve resigned an expensive RB to a second contract, Hunt or not.

It's not like anyone is saying that we should have kept Dorsey or anything like that. Just acknowledging the fact that the core of this team, Mahomes, Jones, Kelce and until the trade, Hill, were all Dorsey draft picks and are all headed to the hall of fame. It's okay to acknowledge that without saying that he's somehow the better GM and we should have kept him. Veach is the man! He took the roster to the next level after Dorsey rebuilt it from the ashes. We are all grateful for Veach and what he has accomplished.

Think of it more as a "I'll concede a little here, just remember it down the road".

Sets up for a good working relationship.

Kind of sounds like you are the impassioned supporter of Dorsey....while I would agree that his picks of Jones, Kelce and shared credit with Veach on Mahomes set the groundwork for our success we have had over the past years.

But I don't see anyone mentioning his poor cap management skills....that has always been one thing that has been a knock on him wherever he went.

No one will ever convince me that we would have the team now that we do if Dorsey was still here. And...IMO I doubt Dorsey would have had the stones to trade Hill like Veach did.

It came down to Chris Jones or Sneed. My argument at the time was, keep Sneed. Let Jones go and save 10 million dollars a season. Sneed was coming off one of the greatest seasons I've ever seen from a defensive back. Him and McDuffie give Spags the ability to blitz on every 3rd down. Chris Jones was fresh off a hostage style holdout, and I was a little bitter. Looking back, Sneed seems broken down and Jones is playing lights out like he always has. Veach make the right call. He usually does.

I don't know what the Titans were thinking making this move. A rebuilding team trading picks for expensive free agent CBs makes little sense.

The Titans weren't thinking rebuild. They thought that Will Levis was something better than he is. They were improving the defense to support him. But Levis sucks, so now they're realizing that it's time for a rebuild.

Veach has drafted guys that are likely on a HOF trajectory

Creed has been the leagues top center since he stepped on the field
Mcduffie has been an all pro since day 1
Rice was absolutely entering that path before the fluke


Even apart from those home runs, look what he’s done in rounds 4-7 during his time here

Allegreti
Fenton
Danna
Sneed
Trey
Noah
Pacheco
Nazeh
Watson
Williams
Hicks
Chamari


That’s a load of talent that would be redrafted much higher than original position and IMO that’s arguably just as important as the drafted HOFers convo. I’d bet real money that no other GM in the history of the sport has produced as much with late round picks.

He also operates the team with minimal amounts of dead cap because he makes great decisions on who to extend and who to trade or let walk.

Letting Sneed go hurt, but it’s already being shown as the right decision, even when most of CP wanted to keep him and were pissed at only getting a 3rd for him.