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Red Dawg 03-17-2025 09:59 AM

We need to keep him.

RunKC 03-17-2025 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 18001014)
You’re looking at it all wrong man.

They aren’t moving Trent to protect him.

They’re moving Trent to save the pass defense.

It’s gonna come down to McDuffie. It really is. Do you want to still make filthy money at $26 million or do you have to have $30 million?

Veach needs to get this decision done now bc Sauce Gardner is probably gonna get $31 million making it even more untenable.

Get this figured out now Veach.

Woogieman 03-17-2025 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 18001002)
Exactly.

People have to stop viewing slot CB with negative connotation.

Not having Trent in the slot last year got us torched game after game by players in that position.

If you can’t get at least a 1 or at least a proven starter at LT DE or WR, it’s not worth trading him.

He’s everything you want in a player on and off the field. That “star” role he plays in the secondary is the most valuable piece of a Steve Spagnuolo secondary.

I think the only "negative" is the rarity of physical attributes needed to play on the boundary. Simply a matter of winning the genetic lottery, just like tackles with 34.75" arms. They may not be more skilled, but there are just so few that have certain key phys attributes, they are just in greater demand.

DJ's left nut 03-17-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18001023)
It’s gonna come down to McDuffie. It really is. Do you want to still make filthy money at $26 million or do you have to have $30 million?

Veach needs to get this decision done now bc Sauce Gardner is probably gonna get $31 million making it even more untenable.

Get this figured out now Veach.

And the leverage is pretty substantial now.

He makes $2.7 million in base salary this year. So, what, $150K per week as a game check? Nice money, to be sure.

But if you offer him a $40 million signing bonus in what would amount to $100 million or so in effective guarantees....man, that's gonna turn his head.

That's money NOW. In his pocket tomorrow.

Or he can make about $15 million over the next two seasons. He could more than double that tomorrow with the stroke of a pen. And have it in his bank account that evening.

That's gotta mean something.

Mecca 03-17-2025 11:14 AM

They moved off Tunsil to pay Stingley.

DJ's left nut 03-17-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 18001024)
I think the only "negative" is the rarity of physical attributes needed to play on the boundary. Simply a matter of winning the genetic lottery, just like tackles with 34.75" arms. They may not be more skilled, but there are just so few that have certain key phys attributes, they are just in greater demand.

Eh...they're not more rare on the boundary, they're just different.

First step quickness and ability to change direction (not to mention gear down) are straight up physical traits and they are MASSIVE for an NCB. Every bit as important as length on the boundary.

And there aren't many people that have those at a premier level either. Fewer than there are guys who are 6'2" and can run fast these days.

I just feel like some have an outdated view of what a NCB really is these days. It's not just some guy who couldn't hack it on the outside. Those guys have very rare skills of their own that are unique to them and the position.

Mecca 03-17-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18001086)
Eh...they're not more rare on the boundary, they're just different.

First step quickness and ability to change direction (not to mention gear down) are straight up physical traits and they are MASSIVE for an NCB. Every bit as important as length on the boundary.

And there aren't many people that have those at a premier level either. Fewer than there are guys who are 6'2" and can run fast these days.

I just feel like some have an outdated view of what a NCB really is these days. It's not just some guy who couldn't hack it on the outside. Those guys have very rare skills of their own that are unique to them and the position.

There are still people that don't understand a NCB is a starter in today's league.

Dante84 03-17-2025 11:18 AM

As suggested earlier, I think this impacts George's second contract with the Chiefs more than McDuffie's. We aren't losing McDuffie.

If George has an elite year (10+ sacks & shitton of pressures) then we gotta do what we gotta do.

But if George has another good/great year and demands elite money, then Veach will explore all options.

dmj106 03-17-2025 11:21 AM

Use every situation to the advantage of your team. Just like with Tyreek, we took that situation and capitalized on it. Trent right now is an affordable asset for any team out there and is a hell of a player. If the worst case scenario is a sign and trade, you can manage yourself into a wonderful haul of picks for an up and coming star cornerback.

Hoover 03-17-2025 11:35 AM

I’m to the point where I just execute his 5th year option then tag him for a season.

And just start drafting corners every year if this is going to be the going rate.

smithandrew051 03-17-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 18001096)
As suggested earlier, I think this impacts George's second contract with the Chiefs more than McDuffie's. We aren't losing McDuffie.

If George has an elite year (10+ sacks & shitton of pressures) then we gotta do what we gotta do.

But if George has another good/great year and demands elite money, then Veach will explore all options.

Yup. That was my point.

Don’t trade the All Pro. Trade the very good player.

Trust Veach to keep finding value at DB around the 1 expensive guy.

Address the pass rush in volume, especially after Jones.

Mecca 03-17-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 18001117)
I’m to the point where I just execute his 5th year option then tag him for a season.

And just start drafting corners every year if this is going to be the going rate.

Out of curiosity what do you pay then?

T-post Tom 03-17-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 18000957)
The Mahomes' contract still has the league playing ketchup

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T-post Tom 03-17-2025 11:57 AM

Another stupid team doing stupid shit.

BigRedChief 03-17-2025 12:01 PM

See if he and his agent wants to stay with the Chiefs or pursue the highest $. If he will take something this off season to an additional 4years/$125 with a $50 million signing bonus. Guaranteed money $75million. He blows out a knee, you are not in cap hell.

But, he will go for the money and go back to the west coast. So this is probably our last year of him on our team. Should get a 1st for him.


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