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ShortRoundChief 09-20-2004 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
I seriously doubt that the Chiefs are going to lower the price of tickets.

You never know :shrug:

BigChiefFan 09-20-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy
You never know :shrug:

They are saying it now to see the masses go out and get the issue passed, then they'll be able to waffle and justify the price increases because they will be paying some money to help refurbish Arrowhead. Talk is cheap.

ShortRoundChief 09-20-2004 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
They are saying it now to see the masses go out and get the issue passed, then they'll be able to waffle and justify the price increases because they will be paying some money to help refurbish Arrowhead. Talk is cheap.

yes it is
why would hunt do that, his reputation is golden in KC?

tk13 09-20-2004 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The difference between the Redskins and Chiefs is almost as bad as between the Yankees and Royals....

BigChiefFan 09-20-2004 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy
yes it is
why would hunt do that, his reputation is golden in KC?

It's self explanatory. I explained why in the post.

ShortRoundChief 09-20-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
It's self explanatory. I explained why in the post.

No you didn't

You didn't explain why Hunt would lie and potentially damage his reputation.

BigChiefFan 09-20-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy
No you didn't

You didn't explain why Hunt would lie and potentially damage his reputation.

This is EXACTLY what I said...They are saying it now to see the masses go out and get the issue passed, then they'll be able to waffle and justify the price increases because they will be paying some money to help refurbish Arrowhead.


Now maybe you should re-read Hunt's quote, it doesn't say anything concrete about lowering ticket prices it says that they should THINK about it. I might not calling him a liar you are. Here's what Hunt said...“We need to step back and think about the Chiefs coming to the middle of the range in ticket price.'' Hunt said he wrote a memo to that effect this week to Carl Peterson, Chiefs general manager.

Like I said that gives them plenty of room to squiggle.

ShortRoundChief 09-20-2004 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
This is EXACTLY what I said...They are saying it now to see the masses go out and get the issue passed, then they'll be able to waffle and justify the price increases because they will be paying some money to help refurbish Arrowhead.


Now maybe you should re-read Hunt's quote, it doesn't say anything concrete about lowering ticket prices it says that they should THINK about it. I might not calling him a liar you are. Here's what Hunt said...“We need to step back and think about the Chiefs coming to the middle of the range in ticket price.'' Hunt said he wrote a memo to that effect this week to Carl Peterson, Chiefs general manager.

Like I said that gives them plenty of room to squiggle.


Um OK your right :rolleyes:

BigRedChief 09-20-2004 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
You have no idea what you're talking about. The difference between the Redskins and Chiefs is almost as bad as between the Yankees and Royals....

HUH? Teh Yankees spend 181 million. The Royals spend 45 million. The Chiefs and Redskins get to spend the same exact amount every year. No more. They can spend less but not more. It's called a salary cap. Baseball should try it.

Straight, No Chaser 09-20-2004 02:06 PM

This is win-win for KC Metro sports fans.

Both stadiums are over due for upgrades (especially Arrowhead).
Anyone who sees Lamar's intentions as anything more than an act of benevolence is out of freaking touch. If you think, as Joe Chief fan, Lamar is getting over on you then visit the larger markets, go to a game, expeience the environment and then compare that to Arrowhead on game day. Consider yourself lucky Lamar wants to improve the stadium and lower the ticket prices.

Stay home, vote no, and beach about the Chiefs from your Barco-lounger.



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htismaqe 09-20-2004 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
HUH? Teh Yankees spend 181 million. The Royals spend 45 million. The Chiefs and Redskins get to spend the same exact amount every year. No more. They can spend less but not more. It's called a salary cap. Baseball should try it.

Did you forget about signing bonuses?

gblowfish 09-20-2004 03:21 PM

Chiefs tickets will NEVER come down in price. NEVER NEVER NEVER. They never have, and never will. They may keep them at the current level, then wait for all the other NFL teams to raise their prices, so other cities can enjoy paying out the wazoo like we do. When the other cities catch up to us, then we'll probably be more in the middle of the pack. Tickets have increased from approx $16 to approx $75 ea since King Carl came to town. How many of you guys have made over 300 percent more per year since 1988?

BigRedChief 09-20-2004 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Did you forget about signing bonuses?

Why does that matter? Signing bonus's are part of the cap. Sure Lamar has to write a check right now for 10 mil to priest but it's spread out over the whole length of the contract. It's still a part of the "cap" dollars he has to work under. The Redskins can't just go buy players every year. Eventually they have to take the cap hit. That why the Chiefs and the Redskins have a level playing field in acquiring players. Now making profit thats another part of the NFL that is not balanced but we were discussing the Chiefs ability to put a team on the field that is competitive.

BTW I'm voting for the tax.

Logical 09-20-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Did you forget about signing bonuses?

Signing bonuses are still part of the cap. They are just pro-rated over the years of the contract. That is still an even playing field in the NFL.

htismaqe 09-20-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Why does that matter? Signing bonus's are part of the cap. Sure Lamar has to write a check right now for 10 mil to priest but it's spread out over the whole length of the contract. It's still a part of the "cap" dollars he has to work under. The Redskins can't just go buy players every year. Eventually they have to take the cap hit. That why the Chiefs and the Redskins have a level playing field in acquiring players. Now making profit thats another part of the NFL that is not balanced but we were discussing the Chiefs ability to put a team on the field that is competitive.

BTW I'm voting for the tax.

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Signing bonuses are still part of the cap. They are just pro-rated over the years of the contract. That is still an even playing field in the NFL.

There are several NFL owners, including Irsay, who vehemently disagree. Signing bonuses can be pro-rated against the cap, but they must be paid to the player IMMEDIATELY. This is not about the cap, this is about actual money. Irsay had to SELL ASSETS to pay Peyton Manning. Daniel Snyder will NEVER have to do that -- he can re-invest profits in his team.


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