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The toilet is likely going to be exactly where they were last year, when they had Howard, as a 7th or 8th seed. What trades did Logo fleece? Vlade at the time was a really good center when he was traded for Kobe. Eddie Jones/Elden Campbell for Glen Rice? I loved Rice, and while it was a necessary trade to get Kobe SG minutes, that's hardly a fleece job. Logo was great at his job though. |
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Lakers are going to have to get real lucky to get someone that's of star quality for Kobe to pass the torch to so to speak. I have no idea who it is, but I also didn't think Pau Gasol was anything but a pipe dream in 2007. |
The Cavs are now the favorites to get Pekovic it looks like.
They can **** right on off, but holy **** I'd love to see a team in 2014 of Kyrie, James, and Pek. Sexy as hell team. Scary good offense AND defense. |
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I doubt very much they change how they do things from a money perspective. The brand brings in tons of money, the Time Warner deal brings in tons of money. The CBA has hurt them, but I'll wait to rush to judgement about how it will or won't hamper them until I see how things go next summer. In the end, the Lakers invested a broken Andrew Bynum, Josh McRoberts and a lottery protected 1 for Howard. It didn't work out but the damage isn't catastrophic. |
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what the hell would the Sixers want in trading for Royce White
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@WojYahooNBA: Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
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I hope my man Siva can stick on the Pistons
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Jarrett Jack signing with Cleveland is pretty big. He could start at PG for multiple teams... I'd say we have the best PG tandem in the NBA. You can even throw Dion Waiters in that mix as a combo guard who can really handle the ball too.
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It will also be real interesting to see how the 76ers handle Royce too. If they learn from Houston's mistakes they got a steal.
Not to say it was all Houston's fault... They shouldn't have to cater to his needs. But both sides could have made it easier. So hopefully Royce also learns from his mistakes. It did seem like he was making a lot of progress towards the end, and at least played in some D-League games. |
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How do the 76ers or any team even handle Royce White, he literally sits on a roster collects a paycheck and refuses to play.
And even if you get him to play, he's like a 40 year old pitcher that refuses travel. So no matter how you cut it, at the very best scenario he's a part time player who can play in like half the games. How do you get that guy to fit a system or gel with teammates and play significant minutes knowing half the time you have to change the lineup around him when he can or can not play. |
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in the world does anybody think LeBron is going anywhere next year. He's there for the rest of his career. Get. Over it. |
What did they trade for Royce? Royce can and will fly, he just doesn't do it unless he absoulatly has too... That's the biggest misconception by the media, and wasn't his problem with the Rockets. His problem was they weren't taking the proper steps to ensure there was a plan in place incase anxiety kicked in, and he wanted a safe environment.
It really wouldn't have been hard for the Rockets to do that, they just refused. I would assume the 76ers are willing to go the extra mile since they traded for him. Plus in Philly he's closer to more city's making travel in his RV a little easier. |
Royce was made for the NBA.
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**** Royce white.
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I think he has some promising talent on the court. What a shame.
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Again, when the guy finally decided to play, he was in terrible shape. His anxiety issues aren't his only problem. When you know your issues are going to cause a problem, wouldn't you do everything you could to keep yourself prepared to play when that time eventually comes? Guy was drawing a large paycheck and not doing anything.
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Well at least White was impregnating bitches on his tour bus.
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Watching a little summer league action today. Oladipo looks like he'll step right in. Trey Burke on the other hand appears to be a bit overwhelmed by the size/speed of guys at this level.
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I mean it's pretty common for someone not to be in top shape when you know/think you won't be playing anytime soon. It's well known basketball isn't his love either... If be cared more about the game he could have been drafted real high. He's seemed real positive on twitter since this trade, and the 76ers are a lot more welcome to him than Rockets fans were when he was drafted. I hope he's motivated to work harder now and makes the best of his second chance. I understand people's hate towards him, but the media has made him out to be worse than he really is. The Rockets knew he had a disorder, and should have known they would have to deal it.
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No its essentially no where close to that.
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If he loved basketball there wouldn't be an issue.
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All he wanted was a plan in place for his and others safety because of his disorder. He also wanted them to talk to a medical expert for his situation, they didn't want to do that.
They shouldn't have expected his disorder to suddenly go away after he was drafted. He had zero problems at Iowa State, it's not hard to take care of him. |
If flying is a part of your job duties I would think there would be an issue with it. He knew that going in. I'm guessing he signed a contract while knowing that...
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If there's any "hate", it's likely a result of his own words on Twitter. He did not handle things well at all.
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Flying wasn't the issue, so you obviously haven't been following the situation at all. He flew a few times at Iowa State when there wasn't time to drive.
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To be fair, Dwight's coaching in Houston will be Olajuwan and McHale, two of the best five post players offensively of the past 30 years.
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The fact that they acquired Harden after they paid Lin way too much money (even though they're the same type of player) and Howard to replace Asik (making Asik an unbelievably expensive guy to play scrap minutes) makes me not want to root for the team. Nevermind that Howard was a douche in the way he handled himself. |
we are talking about a guy that was on Calipari's radar to transfer to Kentucky, the day of the signing, shit his pants with one of his attacks and refused to get on the plane to sign, and thus never did.
The talent was always there, but essentially if he doesnt love basketball, he did enough to collect a nice million dollar per rookie contract being selected 16th. its not like he is some 2nd round flyer. The dude went 16th overall and a little more effort would have easily been top 10/top 5. Right now he looks like an expiring contract more than anything, if he continues to be how he is, he will be off the 76ers books next year and he will be out of the league, as no team will sign him for a 2nd contract and waste cap space on him. It's really up to him if he wants to keep getting paid or not I'm a Sixers fan, I think he would be a good pairing to platoon with Thad Young and Nerlens Noel. That's a good set of skill sets for the team to build around, but I am not getting my hopes up he is going to pan out, other than wondering how they are going to approach him. The 6ers are clearly tanking this season, so the fans will need something to talk about and the Royce White circus will be of the major topics I'm sure. Just like Bynum not playing was this passed season, only difference is we didnt give up the best veteran on the team (Iggy) and two good young prospects for him that caused the team to be blown up |
I really wouldn't be surprised at all for him to play in Philly, and play very well.
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They drafted Jeremy Lamb with 1.12 then traded him for a much more expensive Harden. They gave Jeremy Lin a mega contract then brought in Harden (the two are a bad mismatch for each other). They signed Asik to a mega contract then realized he wasn't as good as advertised and now are paying him a shitload of money to do virtually nothing. They drafted Royce White with no care in the world about his history. The Sixers are fine. Like Oden, they'll gamble with White and if it doesn't work, who cares. But the Rockets... wow. They make so many of these big splash moves and then backtrack. They don't have any kind of a plan. |
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He also had the chance to work with Kareem, but that never materialized. McHale is a dogshit coach. He may have been one of the best post players of all time, but that hasn't translated into anything during his coaching tenure. Howard's offensive game isn't just going to blossom now that he's working with these guys. If teaching moves was so easy, Jordan would be instructing his team every day. He either has it, or he doesn't, and at 28, he's not adding much to that game that's not already there. |
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And the Sixers are not fine, they had a core and were a 5-6 seed playoff team before Bynum, it cost them Iggy, Harkless and Vucevic. If you are asking me now would I trade those three for Andrew Bynum you are crazy, especially now that they blew the team up, have a new coach and GM, Harkless and Vucevic would have been HUGE young pieces to build around. White literally cost them nothing, Bynum cost them the loss of basically their head coach, GM, and the domino effect of multiple players (Iggy, Hark, Vuc, Holiday trade, Lou Williams) and then taking on terrible players like Jason Richardson, and signing scrubs like Nick Young |
Direckshun, anything you want to wager on the fact that LeBron won't retire a member of the Miami Heat?
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If they had Vucevic, no need to trade for Noel. A group right now of Vucevic, Thad Young, Harkless, Turner and Jrue is one of the 7 best teams in the east. That's young, athletic as hell. The only real area they'd have to address is Turner and adding depth. The 6ers have ****ed themselves. |
yea Doug Collins was Scott Pioli level bad with roster moves in that 12 month span where the Sixers made terrible roster moves. I hate them both equally. Scooter more because I love the Chiefs more, but ya know.
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Lin will easily be the first scapegoat Dwight throws under the bus if the team is doing poorly, probably because of his turnover problems.
I can't see him ever selling out his boy Parsons or Harden, so Lin and Asik would be the first Dwight would cry about same thing he did in Orlando Winning does cure this, but only for so long. |
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I wish the 76ers would trade for Asik lol
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The 76ers were winning nothing with their current setup. They ended up with Noel and two possible lottery picks in the best draft of the decade. There's a good chance they could get two franchise players along with Noel, who can be an elite defensive center/rebounder.
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@DerekJ3031: BREAKING: Royce White's trade won't be official yet and @Highway_30 will be playing #YCapCity Weds night! 5:30 Valley Southwoods WDes Moines
I wonder if he will be in better shape.. Hopefully this is at least a step towards getting in shape if not. |
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I think you give way too much credit to Morey. He seems like a guy more interested in proving how clever he is versus building a blueprint for a team. |
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PG - Jrue/Lou Williams SG - Evan Turner/Lou Williams SF - Iggy/Harkless PF - Thad Young/Lavoy Allen C - Vucevic/Hawes even if Iggy walks, or they knew he was gonna, they could have did a sign and trade that yielded something back in terms of picks or depths that was not Bynum, and kept Harkless and Vucevic, and still packaged Jrue for Noel. then you have: Hark, Vuc, Noel, MCW, etc. They lost two prospects right now that will be better than anything they get next year, because you dont know their pick slots, but you can assume top 10. But there is a lot of teams tanking next year, so it's actually cooler to lose next year then it is for middle of the road teams to compete. So either way its going to be tough to get a top pick. And I'm not going to just assume they are getting Wiggins, and realistically if they dont get a top 5 pick than Vuc is better than anything they get, as it stands. They lost more than they gained in the last year, but a large margin. |
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T-Rob isn't on the team. They still got a a really high 2nd for the White mistake. Got a high second back for the Morris mistake 1st rounder Terrance Jones looks promising. Showed flashes last year and dominated the D-league. He had 24/12 today in the summer league. 1st rounder Jeremy Lamb was a big part of the Harden deal 1st rounder Donatas Motiejunas has also shown promise and has apparently bulked up. His play on his national team should be interesting Drafted Brooks, Landry, and Budinger as late picks. |
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I guess he's smart in that he's made a ton of mistakes and the team isn't in dire straits. And I guess credit him for being ultra-active. But the only thing I see is that he threw a shitload of money at two superstars and has surrounded them with a below average supporting cast where much of that talent can't even be on the same floor as the starters. And the young talent is very subpar compared to teams who have drafted well for 5 years. |
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