Forgive me if I had not noticed you had been here long. Usually I notice interesting and engaging new people...

As far as football. I do ok. Well enough to not have been laughed off this board when it was only 2 or 3 of us gals. And, if I had been about politics only then those folk's dreams of seeing me gone would have realized. :p

Ugh. I wouldn't mind her bod but that face of hers is pure trailer park.

Bullshit, you're not gone because too many people, including myself believe that banning folks because we don't agree with them or dislike them is stupid, that is the only reason you are still here.

Well it is stupid. Agreed.

But, ask a few folks around here. I've been right about a thing or two about football over the years.

and the only reason I am here too BTW

No, for once she is being honest. She uses her minimal posting in this forum as a technicality to avoid being banned.

My favorite piece of Denise football knowledge: It's ok to switch loyalties from team to team, even if those teams are mortal enemies, so long as the guy you are following is a hunk.

Yep, Rich Gannon left the Chiefs and went to the Raiders. That's two things. Here's your "real fan" card.

Well, he should have started over Grbac. He ended up MVP and Grbac ended up landscaping his yard... ROFL

It's interesting on the level of being some kind of sick spectator sport. But when it comes right down to it, everything is so stagnant that none of it affects my life THAT much anyway.

Taxes go up or down, they cut this or send extra funding toward that, most of it doesn't matter to me. I get up and go to work in the morning and take care of myself. I guess the government doesn't interest me much anymore because I don't live life relying on it to take care of me.

Well, not only do they deserve it for what they've dishesd out in the past but also for acting like little wussies about this. I know that you don't really know me but there is a little bit of intentional irony mixed in with my comments. Sorry you missed it. I'm just trying to make a point.

Calling them pussies is mild compared to what some of them have unleashed on others. I really am shocked at how some of them are wimping out.

Me too..... :)

two wrongs don't make a right, just fuel for the fire.

Just some feedback on this... I used to agree... But I got rid of the subforums up there (mostly due to addint a google banner ad) and it turns out that they still get used every day... People just browse the forum list and select where they want to go.

Again, just a little irony without a smiley.

Move DC. The regulars will know where to find it, and it's not like we need to advertise it and attract any additional poliheads.

i knew there was something wrong about you...

you no-good commie leftest liberal fascist, you...


you don't use smilies!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I voted to keep them all.

But after reading the whine-fest in this thread, it's obvious to me that DC needs to be moved out of the Lounge...

:eek:

Thats like moving your child molesting uncle into his own apartment.
Sure, you don't have to look at that sick bastard everyday. But who's gonna keep an eye on him now ?






:D

It's so weird looking through this forum and seeing all the hard core DC posters calling for the trashing of DC. I mean, I guess I could be generous and write it off to them just getting tired of it, but it certainly does look like the proverbial kid taking his toys and going home when the game don't go his way.

oh oh oh........I know the answer.....ROFL


you have been here long enough to know that pretty much anything goes.

Ahh, perspective is everything. What you don't understand is that it used to be a Bush-praising-rightist-libertarian-circle-jerk..you just didn't see it because you were too busy pulling your pud with the rest of them.

OK can we at least have a button for the DC forum, In all honesty I don't visit any of the other subforums only the Lounge and DC. It is bad enough the threads were banished to the DC forum but then to not have easy access to it will really stink.

Vlad the Disgruntled

ROFL........I must say I am shocked at some who are calling for the Death of Dc....ROFL

what a great mood we are in tonight....ROFL

You know the answer? What does that mean?

There's been nobody banned from this board who didn't violate the rules or get "voted off the island" by the community.

Pretty much anything goes because we like our moderators to keep a low profile. We're all adults here. We're not babysitting anybody.

OK how about a positive suggestion.

Have the subforums be based on which ones you subscribe to instead of having the same for everyone. I know this is possible because on the My ChiefsPlanet page the only two forums that show up are the Lounge and the DC forum that I subscribe to.


Vlad the Creative

You really believe that ?
:p

Seriously, I've now read this a dozen times...

For all of you still saying it, NOBODY IS SUGGESTING GETTING RID OF ANYTHING.

The Games forum has been moved to a subforum of the Lounge.

The current vote means the DC forum will be moved out of the Lounge, but NOTHING WILL BE DELETED.

Good God there's alot of babies here...

Just to be clear I am aware the DC forum is not being eliminated, I hate that the easy access and the fact you can see that someone has posted will be eliminated.

One more hopefully easier to implement solution for each subforum only have the following data.

Are you STILL whining about the political BS being separated? That's the best thing that ever happened to this board.

As much as some would like to suggest otherwise, that is, generally speaking, the case. The same thing happened at The Pen; people slowly stopped going over there because it was just too much. The split board only increases the heated atmosphere, you are going from one argument to another, to another, to another. I made an attempt at adding a little light-heartedness over there, and got really good responses from it, however if I was not keeping that thread alive myself, it would just die.

As time goes on an all politics board is going to become nastier and more spite filled, its just the nature of the beast. I was a mod at The Pen, and the last few months of its existence, even before members really started to drop off, I only checked in maybe once a month. It just wears on you.

Even before I made the decision to stay out of DC completely a couple of weeks ago, I was hardly in (with a couple of exceptions) that forum anyway. I know some of the opposition looks at the timing and says, "Coincidence? I think not", but if that is what they want to think, if that helps solidify in their minds that they are right, I don't care.

And frankly, I see nothing suspicious about the timing anyway. It only looks bad for my side from their perspective, I happen to disagree. There may be some things I am not especially fond of taking place, but that has always been the case. The opposition has what they think is "new news, damning evidence, a smoking gun, more fuck ups", what have you. It is almost entirely BS. This whole Katrina thing is a perfect example, but I shall not elaborate as this is not the forum for it. But it is not what they are painting it to be. So from my POV, I have nothing to run and hide from. I am merely weary of the game at this point in time. But mostly, I am just weary of her.

I understand where you're coming from.

However, the behavior in this thread today further solidifies the idea that the DC forum is a pox on this board. It serves no other purpose other than for people to piss on each other. Moving it off of the Lounge wouldn't keep the hardcore from posting there at all, and if it decreases traffic in the DC forum somewhat, I would say that's a good thing...

In a sense that is true, it is exactly as it always has been, a person who thought it was crap is going to still think it is crap and I respect that view.

On the other hand what I don't respect is my fellow conservatives who are no longer in the clear majority over there and right now under siege because the administration has it's share of problems wanting to destroy it so they feel like somehow they have won. I do think having no visible link to it on the Lounge will destroy it so they will likely get their wish.

Hell maybe if that is how childish this place has become I should start looking for a new BB to frequent. Probably won't happen but this is a pretty disgusting exhibiton of a veiled banishment of a segment of posters.

Nail, meet the head of the hammer. BAM!!! :)

That's an outstanding idea. Unfortunately, I don't know how to implement it. Maybe that's more of a long term hack.

ROFL

I hope it's okay that I laugh at that.

ROFL

In all honesty this place has become boring already a large portion of the day because of the lack of traffic, and I don't care what the damn stats on traffic say. 9000 post to the lets play this word game, and 2000 posts to the Whoever posts last wins may be hiding the decrease in volume.

Oh well I have said enough.

You were Dodgeball, A True Underdog Story, before Dodgeball A True Underdog Story.

Football season is just begining in earnest. We are coming off of an offseason that was preluded by an extremely disappointing season. I wouldn't read too much into any decrease in traffic just yet.

exactly ... they were all for a DC forum when they could beat up on liberals because it was like 10 to 1 in ratio.

now they cut bait and run


remember how donger and ringleader use to post "the limit" of political threads in the regular forum?

it was so much fun for them ... now they turn puzzy because they can't beat up on the other side without contest.


they know this administration is fugging up and they don't want to have to hear about it for the next 3 years.





disappointing :shake:

and what is wrong with the example i gave .... where no subforums get cut and the front page is still cleaned up?

No, not all of us were.

And are you so sure you want to throw Donger in that list with RL? I do not recall him being a "problem child" of any sort in the main forum.

Skip if those posts are around I actually voted for moving the DC forum out separate and posted that the time had definitely come for it even if it might threaten the BB. So this post does not accurately reflect my position. Nor do I advocate bring DC type threads back into the lounge.

I just don't support it ending up like the Royal's forum where people end up trying to sneak those type threads into the lounge because there is no traffic in the forum. I know how much you love those Royals threads so I thought I would remind you of what can happen when a forum dies.

not all conservatives ... not all liberal

nothing is all inclusive


and yes donger WAS a conservative spammer(basically) he rarely posted anywhere other than DC until things turned south.

OK honest question, why aren't Royals' threads move or deleted. Why the double standard?

oh bullshit to you


i remember quite vividly how ringleader and donger used to dutifully post their 2 limit political quota when the whole thing starting AND how the titles of those political threads became more and more inflamatory until it got so bad that DC was created.

and neither is mine ... try again

That is not the way you have been making it sound in this thread. Furthermore, I would proffer that the reason some were for splitting the board was not so they could have a liberal bash forum, but because they did not want politics in the main forum. They thought it made the place trashy. I would further proffer that those who wish to see it destroyed (with the exception of myself) wish for it to be so with out reinstituting political discussion on the main board. In other words, they came to a conclusion that no matter where you put the discussions, it was going to be bad for the board.

Of course that completely negates your reason for having a conservitave bashing, so I will understand if you dismiss it out right.

That is NOT what you said. You said they used to post the limit of political threads in the MAIN forum. To my recollection, Donger was not one of those people.

Throw out Donger, add jAZ and Denise to your list, and then it will be correct.

Those where the three culprits that practically by themselves brought about the split forum.

Donger has always posted a significant share in the Lounge. I don't know where Laz is coming from. In fact, Donger has been very honest and humble about his contributions to D.C. in this very thread.

The combining forums example? I don't see a logical combination of forums like you do, I guess.

If you're talking about moving the Store up to a different button in the header, that's already planned.

ROFL

Where do you see me disagreeing with you?:hmmm:

Does it not seem like I was agreeing....he made a comment about if you disagree do you get banned....and I spoke up and said... in a round about way....NO..I always have a difference of opinion, and I am still here....are you just looking for a fight....:p

Moonbat-dementia entering it's later stages. :hmmm:

I hate to say it Phil, but if she was agreeing with you, then you were wrong.

I'd say you are wrong, but that would be inaccurate.

You are full of rat excrement....and I would know the symptoms. :D

Then why is there a separate Royals forum that was designed for them. There is no poop forum. There is cart forum, there is a Pictures forum and threads with pictures get moved to the Picture forum all the time or deleted (if not meeting the standards). Threads for tech help all get moved to the Geek forum. Again why the double standard why not force the Royals threads into the Royals forum.


My theory is because the Royals forum is not visible from the front page is why they do not get moved.

i was one of the ones who voted to have the separate forums and i still think it should be separate.

But moving it is basically killing it and that will hurt traffic AND part of the overall forum. If you don't wanna talk politics, don't go to the DC forum.

SOME conservatives are basically just wanting to take their ball and go home because it's no longer they way they want it.


AND YES donger was one of the people who posted politics consitantly.... i remember because i always thought that Donger was really KCWolfman's(Russ) alter ego and he just used Donger to post crap so he didn't take a bunch of crap as a mod.

and no he is cutting bait because it's no longer a liberal bash fest


if you don't like the way someone posts don't vote to ban ... use iggy

if you don't wanna see the girly thread ... don't visit that thread

if you don't wanna talk politics ... don't go to the DC forum.



the geeks and game forums are both waaay small enough to be combined without much to any impact.

the store can easily be an AD link entrance to the Store forum


there are many ways to handle it without losing anything.


SOME people are just using this as an excuse to try to atomic bomb the DC forum as a lame way to say if conservatives can't have the DC forum, nobody can ... BOOM.

Don't mind her, she and Jim are jammin' to Rhonstad's "Poor, poor pitiful me".....;)

yea....:p

That, or they just fill pity for the few remaining die hard Royals' fans.....

speak for yourself ole man....no country for me. And the lads are not named Jim...:harumph:

Crap. Hell froze over again, I agree with Skip.

:BS:

so donger was a culprit as long as i throw a few liberals out there to balance your conservative conscience?


and yes den-ise was plenty responsible for the DC forum split ... i never said she wasn't ... but she it's calling for the moving/deletion of the forum she help create.

donger is.

You know Laz is right and how often do I agree with Laz on the main forum?:p

Well jackass you picked a bad time to agree, I actually advocated the split at the time it occured and voted for it as well. So saying that I am still whining is completely wrong.

heh ROFL

You have lost your mind. Donger was never a problem on the main forum in the context of starting political threads.

This is why so many are leaving, you all are a bunch of conspiratorial nut jobs. There is little to no rationale discussion with you all. It's all Outer Limits Moonbat whackines. I mean look at yourselves, you are so derranged you are coming the main forum and calling out a political group (which is supposed to be taboo now, due in part to your own vote) post after post. You are so obsessed that you are breaking the rules that YOU support.

This is why people are leaving - you all have gone way off the deep end.

Personally I would vote to go with whatever the owners of the hardware decide.

And quit asking the rest of us dumbshits.

And, therefore, a waste of time and effort to debate---when in fact any real effort and constructive discourse or exchange devolves very into that too.

FTR, it was the same shit from the far right toward the end of the Clinton years, and his scandals. Neither of the extremist sides knows when to say, "enough." It's all about us vs. them, all about irrational personal attacks and demagoguery, all about why the other side sucks or is evil.....

The concept of the loyal opposition in politics has been replaced by slash-and-burn politics of personal attacks, talking points, and propaganda masquerading as "facts and evidence." It's all become bullshit. And BOTH sides are to blame.

I think I can show you posts from Skip and Big Daddy that will show that is not true. At least if they were not killed in the great database correction. I specifically recall Phil (back when I was a moderator) saying that all picture threads were to be moved the the separate forum and that Big Daddy went ballistic because he thought they were trying to kill his thread. Skip just recently went ballistic when he was helping someone with a DTV issue and the thread got moved to the Geeks thread.

Proceed. :D

Yes, that is exactly what I said isn't? Try rereading it, Laz. I said REMOVE him from the list. I named the three people that everyone was complaining about at the time. Donger was not one of those three, except in your mind.


I have no clue as to why you feel the need to defend Denise, I wasn't attacking her (for once).

If that is all it takes I will be happy to pay for the hardware and we will put everything back in the main forum. :p

Fact is the labor to fix the software is what makes the BB go, not the hardware. I could buy that in a nanosecond.

IMO those that own the hardware own the software at the same time.

So whatever they decide to make the two work together is what should be implemented. If they lose users so be it.

I think you best double check with Phil on the pictures policy, that policy was made while I was a moderator and I remember it specifically. As I do Troy thinking they were to kill his thread by requiring the picture threads be in a separate forum. You are probably right about the Geeks forum I would have no way of knowing.

Your whining is just more recently acquired, that's all....old man. :)