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Congratulations. Now stop bothering those of us who wish to talk (or just read) about football. |
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PBJ FirstDownSamie PBJ |
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ClevelandBronco=ClevelandSteamer=no respect dipshit PBJ FirstDownSamie PBJ |
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$30 mil for a blocking TE (whose never played 16 games his entire career)? Hahahahaha.
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At least we're kept above "really suck" by a legitimate player. |
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Seriously? You act like they are the Rams of 1999. Besides Walker, not one of them have put up superstar numbers ever. Every ****ing year we hear this from Bronco fans. They throw a ton of money at some offensive player that's supposed to put them over the edge. Last year it was Walker, this year it's Graham. |
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The Pats offense is among the most complex in the NFL. Not a shocker given BB, etc., but I don't think most casual fans realize that our offense, just like our defense, is incredibly complex. One downside is that it doesn't allow easy assimilation of WRs. Guys like Donald Hayes and Bethel Johnson just can't figure out WTF they're doing out there. |
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It's not as complex as the west coast offense,or the Al Saunders/San Diego shifting crap..and Brady has that love bracelet on so he knows what plays to call. |
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When I read this quote, my initial reaction wasn't "That's a lot of money." My initial reaction was "he must be a smart SOB if he went to Thomas Jefferson High School," if it's the one I'm thinking of in Virginia. It's arguably the best academic high school in the country. I wonder what he scored on the wonderlic... |
Graham played high shool, college and now NFL ball in Denver.
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Lot of money for a guy who caught 20 balls last year.
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What you fail to distinguish is between pre-snap and post-snap adjustments. Post-snap are often harder, and the QB and WRs need to be on the same page. The Pats offense have probably about an average number of pre-snap and quite alot of post-snap adjustments. I cannot begin to tell you how many times Patriots beat reporters have written so-and-so "is having trouble picking up the Patriots complex offensive scheme" in connection with some rookie or FA acquisition. The Gruden shift, shift, and then shift some more, is a different type of offense entirely, also very complex. I'd say the super-shfiting offenses can be more complex, yes, but the Pats are above-average in overall complexity. |
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Gotta love Jets and Pats fans arguing over Vinny Testaverde. Hell, he was a Jet for a lot longer than he was a Patriot... |
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I could give a rat's ass about Vinny. Seriously. A cup of coffee with the Pats doesn't exactly make him a Patriot. The argument is about Pats offensive playbook and it's complexity. I find it hard to believe that Vinny was that dumb, given his lengthy career. |
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I mean I've said it, but it's not like I carry around a bag of rat's asses to give each time I say it. Anyone know where this comment started? I've also heard it used as "I could give..." or "I couldn't give..." And, "rat's ass" has been replaced with "two shits" and other things from time to time. Thoughts? |
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A complex offensive scheme that is designed by a 32 year old OC? The Patriots offense is not that complex..they just aren't predictable..you make it seem like you have to be Albert Einstein to play with Brady..almost every offense in the NFL has huge playbooks,and is complicated. |
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Forget it -- this discussion just isn't interesting enough to be worth pursuing anymore, really. |
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Not a clue. I read a great story about the etymology of one phrase common in the English language, which military afficianados might like. The great British Admiral Lord Nelson was second in command of the British Fleet at the Battle of Copenhagen, in which the British engaged the Dutch. At this point, Nelson was already blind in the right eye as a result of his prior combats on behalf of the British Navy. Nelson, of course, always was a proponent of charging into the enemy and letting the British navy's superior rate of fire win the battle. He wasn't one for elaborate tactics. Get close and destroy was his motto. He had taken his element of the fleet in close and was heavily engaged. As I said, however, he was SECOND in command of the fleet. The old Admiral commanding the fleet thought he saw the British getting killed and raised signal flags instructing Nelson to disengage and withdraw. Nelson ignored the signal flags for some time but then one of his lieutenant's pointed out the signal flag and asked if Nelson didn't see it. Nelson put his handheld telescope up to his right (blind) eye and said "I can honestly say I see no flag" and ignored the signal flag. Following the battle, he was quoted as having said that he had a blind eye as a result of his service, and had a right to use it on occassion. For the tremendous victory at Copenhagen, Nelson was elevated and given his own fleet, and led the British to victory at Trafalgar a few years later. So the next time you "turn a blind eye" to something.... |
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The complexity I was referring to is in the adjustments. Brady and his intended receiver have to read the D and respond identically just like every other NFL team but the possibilities on each play are incredibly diverse and rely on a huge number of "tells". Some of these tells are so slight that they border on bizarre. I remember what our play book was like when we had that outstanding O quite a few years back and the TE routes/blocking assignments that the Pats run are comparable if not more complicated. This says a lot about the Pats' receivers and I can see why they might not value certain WR's that other teams would covet, because yeah-you would have to be bright to handle that load. BTW-I already had a lot of respect for Tom Brady before I saw some of his play book but afterwards I was stunned. I don't think you have to be a genius to play with Brady...but Brady might just be one. |
Good sign for Denver. Graham along with Henry will make them a force with the run game.
That being said, they WAY overpaid for him. |
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