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Chiefaholic 09-21-2008 10:56 PM

The nickle defense is a bunch of crap. I recall seeing 8 men in the box ALOT while LJ was bouncing to the outside for big gains.

chiefs1111 09-21-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5043434)
I think poor playcalling and a horrible ****ing line had alot to do with it. Once they ran off tackle he was ripping off long runs at will almost. I dont know why it took Herm and Chan 10 quarters to figure it out.

Cause Chan and Herm are Stoopid

OctoberFart 09-21-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 5043443)
The nickle defense is a bunch of crap. I recall seeing 8 men in the box ALOT while LJ was bouncing to the outside for big gains.

Convice yourself and tell yourself whatever you want but Diaper Boy had 20 yds on 7 carries in the first half.

teedubya 09-21-2008 11:09 PM

Im 5/6th sure that in the next couple weeks, that LJ will get 'injured' again, so he doesn't have to sit through anymore of this shit.

"Oww! My vagina!! I hurt!! (Expletive)" Larry Johnson.

Bowser 09-22-2008 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 5043389)
Anyone agree with me now?

No, dumbass.

Mecca 09-22-2008 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 5043443)
The nickle defense is a bunch of crap. I recall seeing 8 men in the box ALOT while LJ was bouncing to the outside for big gains.

Teams do tend to play a little differently when they are leading 24-7.

Swazey 09-22-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5043397)
I think the big $$$ contract has done more to hamper LJ's performance than a 400 carry season or foot injury.

Ehhhhh... maybe. LJ's as passionate as the next RB. Ever since the guy came back, it seems he gets tripped up too easily. Granted, he's not an evasive RB, but he needs to pump his legs more.

patteeu 09-22-2008 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Swazey (Post 5043663)
Ehhhhh... maybe. LJ's as passionate as the next RB. Ever since the guy came back, it seems he gets tripped up too easily. Granted, he's not an evasive RB, but he needs to pump his legs more.

I noticed the same thing. He seems powerful if people hit him up high or if he gets a chance to do the hitting, but lay a hand on his lower legs and he folds like a lawn chair. It made me wonder if his injury is still in his head a little bit.

He did seem to run a little harder in this game, but he hasn't done anything this season that either J. Charles or K. Smith couldn't do just as well.

BigRedChief 09-22-2008 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 5043715)
I noticed the same thing. He seems powerful if people hit him up high or if he gets a chance to do the hitting, but lay a hand on his lower legs and he folds like a lawn chair. It made me wonder if his injury is still in his head a little bit.

He did seem to run a little harder in this game, but he hasn't done anything this season that either J. Charles or K. Smith couldn't do just as well.

What injury? It was a sprained ankle when I reported this.

So ae usual. I'm right and the Planet needs to buy me a beer.:D

Lzen 09-22-2008 07:22 AM

LJ looked pretty good yesterday, IMO. He was running hard and cutting back when necessary. He looked like he was playing with passion. That is something we haven't seen from him in awhile.

BTW,
Autumnwind, you're an idiot. Atlanta was not playing nickel. They were trying to shut down LJ. Why would you play a nickel when you know the opposing QB sucks? Judging by your comments, I doubt you know much about football. Of course, being a Raiders fan, that is typical.

patteeu 09-22-2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5043725)
What injury? It was a sprained ankle when I reported this.

So ae usual. I'm right and the Planet needs to buy me a beer.:D

The injury I'm talking about was his season-ending foot injury last year. Swazey and I were talking about the present. It's a discussion that is probably out of place in this old thread, but he's the first one I've seen mention the same things I was thinking as I watched LJ yesterday.

The Bad Guy 09-22-2008 08:36 AM

What's truly bizarre to me is how Gailey refuses to run toss plays and stretch plays. I don't know why in hell we wouldn't - the real strength for Albert is playing in space.

OctoberFart 09-22-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5043819)
LJ looked pretty good yesterday, IMO. He was running hard and cutting back when necessary. He looked like he was playing with passion. That is something we haven't seen from him in awhile.

BTW,
Autumnwind, you're an idiot. Atlanta was not playing nickel. They were trying to shut down LJ. Why would you play a nickel when you know the opposing QB sucks? Judging by your comments, I doubt you know much about football. Of course, being a Raiders fan, that is typical.

Spin and use blind homerism to make you feel better but he had 7 c for 21 yds when it mattered. Using your logic for Diaper Boy could be used for John Kitna which is putting up empty stats when a game is all but over.

Rausch 09-22-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4350876)
Consider this a rumor.

Again just FYI passing it along.

Consider this a rumor, and just FYI, but Herm and DV were both big fans of using "injuries" to replace starters.

StcChief 09-22-2008 11:28 AM

I'm sure with our OL the thought of injury is still there with LJ.

morphius 09-22-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 5044386)
Spin and use blind homerism to make you feel better but he had 7 c for 21 yds when it mattered. Using your logic for Diaper Boy could be used for John Kitna which is putting up empty stats when a game is all but over.

You are right, because they were ahead they decided to let him break tackles and just threw their faces into his hand so that they could be stiff armed.

OctoberFart 09-22-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5044562)
You are right, because they were ahead they decided to let him break tackles and just threw their faces into his hand so that they could be stiff armed.

Tell yourself what you want but he had 20 yds in the first half then once the queeefs were out of the game he had one long run for 50 yds. So in reality he had about 50 yards on 16 carries. I don't care what you want to believe but Diaper Boy is a shell of himself and one game with decent stats in an uncompetitive game won't make me a believer. Keep homering on.

Bowser 09-22-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 5044596)
Tell yourself what you want but he had 20 yds in the first half then once the queeefs were out of the game he had one long run for 50 yds. So in reality he had about 50 yards on 16 carries. I don't care what you want to believe but Diaper Boy is a shell of himself and one game with decent stats in an uncompetitive game won't make me a believer. Keep homering on.

You sound like the anti-Vermeil, trying to use stats negatively to show how bad a player is. You're failing miserably. LJ is and will be a productive back, even behind our shit line.

OctoberFart 09-22-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5044621)
LJ is and will be a productive back, even behind our shit line.

In meaningless games at garbage time. I agree.

Bowser 09-22-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 5044709)
In meaningless games at garbage time. I agree.

Spin it all you want. You know you'd have him on your team, even with "The Next Adrian Peterson".

OctoberFart 09-22-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5044726)
Spin it all you want. You know you'd have him on your team, even with "The Next Adrian Peterson".

No I would not want broken down premadonna Diaper Boy and his contract on the Raiders. RB is the one postion where we are loaded.

OctoberFart 09-23-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5043819)
LJ looked pretty good yesterday, IMO. He was running hard and cutting back when necessary. He looked like he was playing with passion. That is something we haven't seen from him in awhile.

BTW,
Autumnwind, you're an idiot. Atlanta was not playing nickel. They were trying to shut down LJ. Why would you play a nickel when you know the opposing QB sucks? Judging by your comments, I doubt you know much about football. Of course, being a Raiders fan, that is typical.

Here is a comment on Diaper Boy another fellow chief fan wrote: I don't understand why LJ is getting so much credit. The Falcons came out of the second half up several possessions. They quit crowding the line of scrimmage, lo and behold, we had a bit of a running game. You'd think this might be a wake-up call to our offensive staff and head coach that if defenses had to honor our passing game, maybe we could run the ball a little. I realize passing vertically in order to open up the running game is "arena ball" philosophy, someone should tell the rest of the NFL.

okcchief 09-23-2008 11:41 AM

In this case Autumn Wind is right. LJ's stats on Sunday were completely meaningless. He did seem to run more determined than he has this season but that isn't saying much. LJ is nothing special without a good or great offensive line. He will never be productive with this roster. And to say the Raiders would want him is comical. The Chiefs should get anything they can for LJ ASAP. By the time our online is good he will be completely worthless.

SAUTO 09-23-2008 11:43 AM

maybe he got yards because the coaches called a DIFFERENT play for him. did any of you ever think of that?

sedated 09-23-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 5047161)
LJ is nothing special without a good or great offensive line.

funny that so many people said the exact opposite during the great Priest vs. LJ debate.

okcchief 09-23-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5047181)
funny that so many people said the exact opposite during the great Priest vs. LJ debate.


To me they were both the same. They were great as long as the offensive line could give them some help. Neither one is/was anything special. They should never be mentioned in the same breath as a Tomlinson or Peterson. They are more along the lines of a Shawn Alexander. On the right team LJ could be an extremely productive back but this isn't that team and never will be that team while that potential is still in him.

InChiefsHeaven 09-23-2008 05:59 PM

Tomlinson would suck on this team. The only back in history that might not would be Barry Sanders.


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