It's not a big deal in my opinion. I know which picture you took and since you're shooting a subject almost directly below you the strap will be in front of the lens. It also may appear you can see through part of the strap because it's swinging and your shutter speed isn't fast enough to eliminate the effect.

Yes I have. That's light being refracted. Not reflected.

This is absolutely inaccurate.

KC Fish, It's fine to disagree, but you act as though you are right unless someone can prove you wrong. Well what about the opposite? Why isn't BD or anyone else on here with a ghost story or supernatural experience right unless you can prove them wrong? Of course the answer is that on this subject, nobody really knows for sure, so you parading around like a holier-than-thou know-it-all rubs people the wrong way, especially those who have experienced strange occurrences. You don't know for sure that ghosts don't exist any more than others can prove that they do.

My father died when I was 12, and since then I have had a few experiences where I felt like he was present . . . protecting me in each case. I of course cannot prove it to anyone, and really don't care to, but you can blather on til your blue in the face and you will never convince me otherwise because I know what I experienced and felt.

I also know for a fact that I have dreamed things that later happened. Sort of like Deja vu I guess. But on at least two occasions I had vivid dreams about people and places that made no sense to me at the time of the dream, but then sometime later in my life, everything would come together and happen exactly like the dream. That my friends is an eerie and overwhelming sensation when it happens.

I don't know if ghosts are real, but experiences like these have opened my mind to the liklihood that there are things in this world...spiritual, supernatural, whatever...that go beyond the normal accepted physical world that can be proven or unproven by science.

doesn't matter...energy is interacting with the light. Now you are trying to split hairs.

I think I'm going to cry...

Ghosts, demons and the devil are 100 percent bullshit. I know, because on multiple times I've made silent requests to commune with the devil so that I might sell my soul for a variety of favors in return. He never answers. Not even a goddamn sign. I think about this shit all the time when it's dark and shit never appears. If I'm alone in the house and in the shower, my thoughts instantly turn to OMG WHAT IF A SPOOKY SPOOKY IS BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND SURPRISES ME?

NOTHING EVER ****ING HAPPENS.

One time I laid belly up on a high school football field in the pitch black dead of night. I looked up at the stars and tried to send my thoughts into space so that psychic aliens might come down and take me away. No aliens came. Satan didn't take advantage of the opportunity to corrupt me. My high school ghost didn't come out to anally probe me.

Either all this occult/paranormal bullshit is laughing at me behind my back or it doesn't exist. Because I've tried to invite it all into my life hundreds of times - short of Ouija boards - and NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.

If you believe in ghosts, demons, the devil or any of that ****ing bullshit you're a goddamn moron.

Losers aren't accepted by any man, woman, god, or devil.... EVER! You have to have a redeeming quality, otherwise they'll ignore you.... hence, your predicament.

Perhaps your soul isn't worth what you think it is.

I also think what's ignorant is claiming to KNOW what is after death or out in space. You don't. You can't.

You can have faith. You can believe or not believe. But not a single person knows...

I stop short of aliens. The universe is too goddamn big.

But afterlife? BULL SHIT.

Well, I believe in ghosts. And Old English sites have 'em. I swear I encountered one in an old abby down by the Battle of Hastings took place. But there is one way that photo may not be one: If someone ran across that space it would photograph has a motion blur just like the photo.

If there is a God wouldn't he/she/it have to be an alien, by definition?...

:doh!:

Light IS energy.....

i have read this forum every once in a while for a couple of years now but have never posted. found this subject appropriate for me to comment on, though.

so here we go... first post

let me start by saying that i never have, nor will i ever "believe" in ghosts..... but..... i experienced something five years ago that i could not explain and that absolutely shook me to my core.

some background info: the house i was living in was very old and very big. It was built around the turn of the century (typical. i know.). our family had been living there since i had been the the 4th grade.

one night, when i was fifteen years old (for you math guys, that makes me twenty now), i awoke to the creaking open of my bedroom door followed by six loud, cracking footsteps upon my bedroom floor (remember. the house is very old, and very noisy). At any rate, it was nothing out of the ordinary. I figured it was my younger brother (14 at the time) coming into my room to steal a clean pair of underwear (a fairly normal occurrence).

tired and not wanting to argue with him, i just laid there and waited to hear the customary footsteps out the door. however, there were no more footsteps. i sat up to see what he was doing.. and what i saw next was difficult for me.

a street lamp outside my bedroom window was illuminating the corner of my room, and i very clearly saw a man standing there with his back to me. he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt and a baseball cap forwards. it was not brother.

with his back to me still he moved toward a suede chair i had in the corner of my room and began to slowly rub the chair. my heart was beating uncontrollably. i laid back down on my bed, but kept my eyes fixed on him.

he stopped rubbing the chair and appeared to begin to undue his pants.

*** WARNING *** this is where things take a horrible turn. i will lose most of you here. but, i assure you, i am not making any of this up.

still with his back to me, his right elbow began to move back and forth in a motion that disturbed me right down to my bones. he appeared to be masturbating.

*you have to understand that i didn't think that this was a ghost*. it was a man in the corner of my room. and at this point, i was so horrified that i remember having to fight back tears. i was literally afraid for my life, believing this man to be some sort of sick son of a bitch that sneaks into houses in small towns (unlocked doors), masturbates, and then kills. i wanted to scream for help at the top of my lungs.

i have no idea how i got the balls to do this, but i began to move toward the other side of my bed (still watching his every move). conjuring up every bit of courage within me i leaped toward the light switch (not far from my bed) and turned it on , simultaneously yelling "who the **** are you?!". the light came on and there was no one there. i felt like i was on the edge of a nervous breakdown at this point and began running through the house, flipping every light on. my mom had to wake up and settle me down.

i slept in the living room for the rest of the night. the next morning, my mom said, and i quote, "i don't know if i should tell you this... but.. last night, about ten minutes before you woke me up, i could have swore i heard someone open the back door and walk upstairs." (my room was upstairs)

also, the suede chair. the spot where he was rubbing the night before was the only place on the chair where the suede was unsettled.

then, to top it all off, i find out that the guy that owned the house before us got killed in an ugly accident at his work. got caught up in some machinery. and my bedroom was where he and his wife slept.

i began researching lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis a year or two later. i was experiencing neither. i'm still not sure what happened.

annnnnnywho, i'm gonna go work on my avatar and stuff like that.

LESSOR DEMON: Gochiefs is trying sell his soul again.

DEVIL: Goddammit, I thought I told you to change the number!

:evil:

FYP

LOL To have an experience like that and you don't believe in ghosts eh?

People are as naivete about this topic as they are the American government.

For anyone who cares to understand more about this topic the lady who runs this website does an excellent job of putting all this spirit/ghost/psychic stuff into simple understandable terms:

http://www.erinpavlina.com

Basically ghosts are souls that are caught in between earth and heaven (or whatever you want to call heaven). EVERYBODY has some degree of ability to communicate with the afterlife and spirits etc (psychic ability) but most experience this in the form of strange occasional coincidences and intuition etc. and do not have their awareness devleoped to the extent that they can call upon it at their leisure. People that have out of body experiences like Big Daddy are more in touch with this side naturally. Things like meditation and spiritual development (not religious development) puts us more in touch with these things.

what, so they can go maul little baby ghosts? you're a sick, sick man!



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:p

Exactly...so energy is interacting with energy. Which is the entire point I am trying to get through your head that you just proved for me. :thumb:

Maybe your superficial attitude towards it all has something to do with it? Your problem seems to be you think you know what you should see based on cartoons as opposed to letting what is there show itself.

I watched the video in this thread.

I've never seen anything like that.

Not sure which video you are referring too?

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I'll agree I think that is all staged bs.

My grandparents live in a house that was built on top of another one that burned down in the 60's killing 4 people apparently. When we go to visit them I always prepare myself for some shit. The basement is ALWAYS freezing, like in August. Sinks turn on by themselves, lights go on and off, weird ass sounds and smells. Like carlota said theres just an overall weird funky feeling in certain rooms all the time.

Heat rises.

I am a believer but very skeptical..

First part(ghost walking thru wall).. No telling, Looks to me like editing..

2nd(ghost behind tombstone).. No telling again, video is not very clear.. Seems to me the person would have walked around the side to get a better view..

3rd part(ghost walking across st).. Is a smudge in the glass.. It looks like it is moving when you move the camera.. You will notice a giant water spot on the window stays in the same place compared to the ghost as it moves across the screen..

4th one(face pops out of corner).. Can't really explain it.. But the video is really poor.. So anything is possible..

5th one(garage ghost).. Poor quality, could be shadow of someone else elsewhere..

6th one(poltergeist in dining room).. No telling, They should have uploaded more video surrounding this and before and after events.. Because they did not I assume faked..

7th one(door opening).. Could be anything like time lapsed.. But could be the closest video that might not be fake..

8th one(ghost mirror).. No idea.. Again they do a poor job of showing multiple angles why it is happening.. If the mirror is haunted they should have been able to provide more angles at the same time..

9th one(ghost child) uhh this was a break.com video.. These guys are not helping themselves..

10th one(ouji board poltergeist) fake... everything happening does not show the full objects.. And it looks like a person behind the camera on the light reflection on the wall.. Side note... You want to see how fake the boards are, have all the people or person touching the board blindfolded and then tell me the results.. You have to have one person watching to record..

11th one..(redone).. looks nothing like the first one or in the same room..

12th..(jesus ghost).. Again well done fake, horrible quality and too many loopholes..

13th.. demon girl.. Again another video that was on break and I believe from a Japanese movie..

With such a preponderance of sightings happening in the middle of the night when people are in their beds, I've always just assumed that people were probably dreaming an extremely lucid dream. Not sure if that is always the case, but I believe our minds are very powerful...we only know what our minds decide to reveal to us after all, but we don't know if it's always "real" or not...

Ding. We have a winner.

They live among us ... run u littl' bitches ....

Seems fake. The filming is a little too convenient...the focus shifts to and object and it immediately moves...then the focus shifts to another object and BOOM! It moves.

This one is probably the most fake looking to me...just everything about it. Its almost like watching the part of a magician's act when they're trying to convince you that there aren't any wires holding his assistant up in the air as she levitates - "Look, the camera turns this way and you see no person. The camera turns the other way and you see no person. It has to be real."

Little demon girls are a staple of Japanese horror films so you're probably right.

I agree that the massive production of fake shit is a huge problem.

Exactly!!! LMAO

I remember a lot of my dreams and I can never remember ever seeing myself from a 3rd person pov. But then again I have been told for as long as I can remember that things like that are not possible.

If it happens to a child it happens imho because they do not know you are not supposed to be able to do that, so say the experts. That being said when it does happen to a child that memory is forever embedded in their brain and can very easily be tapped during sleep periods.

It's very likeable to saying "I dreamed that would happen a few days ago..."

If you tired to dream about the future you would never get it right. But if you are just relaxed and not trying, just sleeping as normal then you allow your brain to take over without your conscious thoughts interefering.

How were your parents in regards to things? Were they religous? Did they never talk about ghosts, or death or heaven?

VERY christian especially mom. She tried killing my OBE gift as quickly as possible. LMAO Dad was obsessed with his business. We never had much time together. He never talked about anything like that. Still can't get him to discuss spiritual things.

I believe this is probably accurate.

You dumbasses need to read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/People-Believe.../dp/0716733870

You're such an annoying little prick. I'll bet you're nothing like this in real life because you wouldn't have lived this long.

id like to stab you in the face sometimes.

All the dude wants to do is constantly offend as many people on the BB as he can. What a miserable little douchebag.

That is too bad. Seems most parents will try nd squash such things for varous reasons, religous reasons, embarrassed, afraid people will make fun of you.

Please do not call him a douchebag as douchebags do serve viable purpose in life. ROFL

I just think she believes everything must be the work of the devil if she doesn't understand it.

already did.

If you need to borrow a knife just let me know.

I do not appreciate threats you will be hearing from my lawyer unless these comments are removed.

i pack the Coldsteel gunsite II.

http://www.coldsteel.com/

do it.

Sadly most do. As I have said before, if you tell someone you saw Jesus they say great. Tell them you left your body they call you a liar or freak or witch or whatever.

What's a OBE gift?:spock:

Out of body experience.

BIG_MYSTIC has been eating too many shrooms.

you need to stick with things you actually know something about, like star wars trivia and jamming small rodents up your a$$hole.
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Dude go be a turd nugget elsewhere. You cannot prove he has never had them as he cannot prove he has.

Now stfd and stfu.

When I was a kid from like 6-12 I frequently had out of body experiences. Most of the time I would wake up and not be able to move and then would come out and look down on my body. The first several times it was terrifying I thought I was dead. It's something I wish my parents had harnessed my ability to do instead of telling me it was just a dream.

I had a near death experience once, but it wasn't out of body...for the most part, I wouldn't say that anyone's experience is true or false...they experienced it, not me.

i always thought those were dreams, though i never looked down upon myself i did have a feeling of cant escape/held down.

That + viewing Close Encounters of the Third Kind before bed will make you think you're being abducted by aliens.

Just saw this post...I would guess your parent's reaction would be pretty typical...in fact I can't say I wouldn't react the same way if my kid told me about it...but what could they have done to harness it?

It's absolutely a life changing experience. I can't say for sure that it's not just the mind doing it but once it happens there is no going back. After seeing your body and being able to move and carry your conscience without it and feel yourself come back into your body there is just no way you can believe that you are not more than your skin. Having an experience once you understand it is also one of the most liberating highs I have ever felt. I would love to visit the Monroe Institute one of these days.

If it ever happens again just roll to the left and you will come right out.

Yup. You're special.

possibly though it happened often from about the time of 8-12. enough that it stuck with me.
then again ive had reoccuring dreams where i can fly and actualy teach myself in the dream how to levitate and descend.and i know i cant fly so..

First thing they would do is try to eliminate the fear of leaving the body and help me to understand what it is. Secondly if it was my kid I would educate them as much as I could about what can happen when you're out and how to control the experience.

There is also OBE's through dream control. If you can become lucid in your dream and then fly you are very close to getting out.

Everyone has had dreams that came true. Everyone at some point in their life has had a dream where the exact thing or something very close too came true. Does that mean we can tell the future? No, cause we don't know when we are actually dreaming or seeing the future. We don't know what to look for. But these dreams are not flukes either.

never happens anymore.

i had de javu from dreams since 93'.

maybe i dont want out.

And what is funny is the same people that say ghosts are BS will also admit they hve had de javu.

Yea you do, trust me. If your interested pick up journeys out of the body by Robert Monroe.

Also I hear more and experience more myself where I dream about somthing that happens to me in the dream but in reality it happens to someone else that I know or is close to me.

Any chance we can get Clayton to have an OPE (Out of Planet Experience)?

i remain agnostic about it.

And you will probably remain so after the fact but it still changes everything. It's still very liberating. I think it's more about understanding a little more about what you are.