Watched Fireproof. ;)

Like catholics.

I remember the priest gulping down the wine during church like he dying of thirst. Gulp, gulp gulp. I thought wow, this guys getting into it.

Check out the protein.

"Ma!! I told you to get me more protein!!!

"POOOWWWEERRR BAAARRRS!!"

SR, I just stumbled upon this thread after talking to you.

I don't have the wisdom that many people do, I'm only 22 years old.

However, I believe that AA is the best possible thing for you. My brother (17) has started to go to NA, and it has worked for him. Its easier to let people you don't know at first to know about your problems, than it is to tell your family/friends/etc. Also, you will find people who have the same struggles as you and together you will be able to work it out.

Also, I would recommend at least bi-weekly visits to a place of worship, if you really want to end this.

Personally, I have been addicted to Tobacco, and Marijuana at certain points of my life. I smoked cigarettes for a year and a half, and just quite, cold turkey. I felt bad for a few days, but since then I've never felt better.

Same with MJ, I always convinced myself that I wasn't addicted, but I obviously was. Cold-Turkey quit that too.

Alcohol is a whole other monster though. Not to sound harsh, but if you really want to quit, you need to get up, and go get help. Do not just let this thing swallow you, while you are still competent enough to get out of it.

I'll say a prayer for you, and hope you decide to do the right thing.

I just stopped. I told myself that quitting wasn't gonna be harder than dying from cancer. So I just quit.

Your avatar wasn't offensive. You being a complete tool all the time was.

SR, I don't want you to fall of the wagon, but that's a very nice chardonnay you're not drinking.

No you changed your av because someone said you looked like white trash. Please show me post where someone said they were offended.

Damn your such a fake ass tool.

ROFL

Now he just looks like a dude wearing a pair of those big sunglasses that the teenie bopper girsl wear.

I don’t k now if its been mentioned yet but you should really consider heading to therapy/counseling. The majority of the time there is a reason we do shit like this and until you figure out what that is and come to terms with it, it doesn’t matter how many times you stop, the root of the problem is always there readying you for a relapse. It really takes some balls to put this out there, I hope it ends well for you.

I really don't want this thread derailed much because of the seriousness of SR's situation. But i'm glad Midnight_Vulture changed his avatar.

I do think he has been getting better in his posting etiquette.

Just give him a chance. And MV. Try not to be to rude in your postings.

I have tried so many times to quit cold turkey. I am on board with you man. I started a thread a couple years ago about being a drunk and there were some awesome responses in that thread about what it takes. More than anything, you have to do it for yourself. I am just sick and tired of being sick and tired. My children are also to the age, that I know they are very impressionable and I don't want them to become me.

It also makes you look older. No more 9ers for you.

I'd take up home brewing. Now I never have to worry about where my next beer is coming from.

Well it can only get better from here. I know you just want to beat yourself up but try to stay positive and active with getting help. Believe me some days its hard for me to even look in a mirror

Congrats. I think the 3 mile walk should help you sleep if anything.

Even if you cannot quit cold turkey, then try to consciously drink less.

Maybe only drink 2 days during the week, and try and cut it down to less than 10 beers over the weekend.

I hope this works out well for you.

I am on board today. It looks like I will be trying it again. I txted messaged all my friends that I would apperciate it if they won't enable me. First test is wednesday. I am supposed to go out that shouldn't be hard. The real tests is when I have had a full weeks worth a bullshit can I not pick up, but one day at a time. I am looking forward to having a clear head, and all my shit together as far as my wallet and glasses and shit. Even though I don't see my nephew much. I put a picture in my phone so I am going to try to motivate me to stay alive long enough to watch him grow. Overall I have been through this song and dance so many times just sitting here hour after hour putting myself through the ringer. I hate the waiting. Waiting for that dumbass moment where you either start drinking and go down the cycle of drunk,hungover,drunk, hungover, or not pick up all all. It is true madness.

I know people are trying to help, but people could limit what they take in they would. One of the steps is realizing you aren't a normal person. You can't drink normally. YOu have a problem. People who try to cut it down are just lying to themselves and everyone else. You will ususally find 4 or 5 more beer cans in the trash than they said they drank.

Like I said earlier, I know pot isn't alcohol.

I'd smoke an eighth ounce every couple days and I realized I had a problem. I cut it to a gram or so a week, then weened it out completely.

It helped in that situation.

sounds good to me

I've never been addicted to anything in my life. I don't think it's possible under the right will power. I could put down drinking for the rest of my life if it wasn't so fun. I drink because it's fun, not cuz it's addicting. Drug addiction, alcohol addiction, porn addiction......I don't buy it. All it takes is ****ing will power people

I understand. Not all of us are good, though. I'm not dressing this up. I was spinning way out of control. I came on here and tried to get some advice.

But I appreciate the tough love.

good luck red. i was truly blessed when it came to giving up the booze. and the meth. i drank and smoked dope from about 13 up. started on the meth when i was about 23 or so.
got to where i hated meth but i would go nuts till i got some. pot just gradually got phased out cause i just couldn't handle it anymore. booze was a different deal though. i never quite liked hard stuff too well, but beer, yeah. and to get to the point of my post, i never intended on quitting, but i did.
and yes it started with me deciding to go to church. i mainly started cause i thought it'd be good to take the kids(my ex's) to sunday school. but at that time i would go to church on sunday morn and stop and get a twelve pack on the way home. i basically had the- ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do attitude--.
to make the story short, i heard about some strange goin ons at a little pentecostal church a few miles down the road. thought i'd go see what the talk was about. it was there i met Jesus. before, i knew about Him, since then, i've come to know Him.
i was baptized in the name of Jesus and received the gift of the Holy Ghost in '97 and have not desired to drink or do a line since. i really didn't realize that i'd quit drinking till a friend came over and wanted to go on a booze cruise one weekend. told him that i didn't feel like drinkin, and he pointed out to me that i was told to quit drinkin' since i started goin to that church. but that wasn't true, nobody told me i had to quit, i never really had thought about it. and i was kinda like dp. on the weekend i was gonna do some drinkin', lots of it. and the Lord just lifted that desire from me.
i know that it doesn't work like that for everyone, but remember.. who the Son sets free, is free indeed. and you too can be free.
well mr. red it wasn't my intention to get into all that, i originally was just going to wish you luck and tell you i'll pray for you. my advice..draw near to God, and God will draw near to you.

Well, you're awesome. The rest of us are not. You can leave your encouragement in other threads. Other threads besides this one.

One time I thought I was addicted to pot. I smoked it for like 3 months cuz a friend of mine always had it. Then I moved back home for the summer cuz I was in college. I asked someone how much it was to buy it, and I was like, **** that, that is way to expensive. So I never smoked it again. Cuz I'm cheap. I think that is why I don't get addicted to shit. Cuz I'm the cheapest person alive. If I ever got addicted to meth, I'd be like..screw this, you mean I have to pay 3.50 for a bottle of paint thinner or whatever it is they use

People think I'm crazy as hell for sharing stuff here. It helps. Mine's usually from some overemotional reaction (pissed off, nervous, frustrated etc). There are some assholes on here (obviously), but there are some really cool people on here, too. It's like a one stop shop for advice on how-to's, what's good, football, politics, media, etc. I'm pretty much an open book, and I'm able to go back and laugh at the stupid shit I start. I've definitely grown an extra layer or two of skin by being on here, and that's helped me elsewhere.

I smoked cigarettes for 17 years, then just quit cold turkey. I would say that after about a month I never even thought about another cigarette. Honest.
I even smoked in the shower before work. Thats when I realized it was time to quit.

I think by you posting your desire to quit on this forum, you have really taken a first step to truly wanting to quit. You have to truly want to quit. You can do it.

everytime you get the urge visit this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnDztKxqfk

Just get a wolf shirt...

But seriously, good luck guys. That's why I never start up any of this stuff, people always wonder why I go to parties but never drink. I have the willpower not to start, I don't know if I will to stop if I do start.

Bunch of slack-jawed f@ggots around here. This stuff will make you a goddamned sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me.

Hey SR, a question for ya. If you had to say there is one issue that is making you want to drink, what would it be. I don't mean a superficial one like my job is hard. I mean, what deep down do YOU think is the issue?

Did you drink last night, SR?

Well done. I'm pulling for you.

Are you addicted to ChiefsPlanet?

hah lots of people become addicted to something else when they quit booze, but chiefsplanet will never give you a dui, say shit to your realitives you don't mean, or cause you physical harm (well unless you have a heartattack reading the stupid shit posted on here)

You left out poker.

:banghead:LMAO:clap:

We should form a ChiefsPlanet Posters Anonymous group. We'll meet here and post....wait a minute.....

This isn't what I do for a living of course, but I would guess that you will have to figure that one out before you are able to conquer this entirely bud. Look deep and try to do just that. You may have to seek help to figure it out too.

I tried that - took up coffee to try to cut back on soda. I just ended up drinking the same amount of soda AND additional coffee. :rolleyes:

Now I just figure the soda is fairly mild, as vices go (though it is getting expensive).

what's this quiting? quiting is for losers....

I didn't. Al Davis fired me. / L. Kiffin

No, seriously dude. To quit something you really have to want to do it for yourself. Good luck.

Sounds exactly like what Endelt would say.

Iv'e had an addiction for a long long time, just can't break it. Years of madness of highs and lows sweat and tears. Makes me happy makes me sad I will never break my addiction though...

Chiefs Football is in my blood :arrow:

Damn SR...sorry to hear about your issues...

Had troubles once with Rx pain killers. Had to seek professional help.

Yeah, but at least you guys have those topless barista places up there. I might lay down ten bucks for a cup of coffee with too much sugar in it, too.

Cold fuggin turkey.


Everytime.

This comment made me LOL. However, it's fairly resonant in your instance SR. Make this place, and this thread specifically, your resource when you're craving, losing hope, etc. I'm a newbie here, but the subject is something that transcends well past this board, and certainly applies to many more people.

Personally, I have my reservations about my own behavior. I don't smoke or drink-- until the weekend. And then, for whatever reason, it's a near guarantee that I'm going to end up drinking in excess (Friday nights especially), swear off drinking the next day, and reluctantly going out (peer pressure) Saturday evening and repeating. It's truly a drain on my body, and my wallet. That might be what eventually knocks the habit.

The truly strangest thing is, I'm the guy that all smokers hate: the drinking smoker. I rarely, if ever, have any inclination towards cigs during the week-- the smell actually disgusts me-- yet, get me in the mindset of partying, and I crave to no end. I literally smoke as much in a couple hours as some do in a day. Mind-boggling. But it does lead me to believe that everything is related to will-power and mind-over-matter behavior. I'm trying to curb this behavior, since drinking in moderation isn't apparently in my nature-- but I don't want to risk losing my best friends in the world, who center most of their actions on activities involving alcohol. It'll be tough, but it's got to happen. Something's gotta give: health or my "fun" Fridays.

I think those smoking commercials ("Become an Ex") are the absolute truth: if you can re-learn to do certain simple tasks without alcohol, cigs, drugs- whatever your vice-- you can re-learn to do anything. My personal goal is drinking IN MODERATION (the litmus being no hangover), and not smoking again. Ever.

So, best of luck to you, SR and DP. Use this thread ad nausea to vent, or whatever. Know that we're behind you, and we, for whatever it's worth, expect you to keep up with this.

Move. Do something drastic to get out of your routine. Go somewhere where your drinking buddies can't find you - preferably 1 block away from YMCA and/or your new church. Get a new routine and change your lifestyle.

Thanks

Good luck SR, I'm currently trying to quit smoking which means...you guessed it...no drinking in the meantime. That's what tripped me up last time I quit.

We do?!? :eek:

Shit. I was just buying the 45 cent coffee from the gas station on the corner. :sulk:

The trick to stopping anything... is you have to figure out if it serves you or not. If it serves you well, continue. If it doesn't serve you, then you have to begin to place the feeling of PAIN to the action that you wish to quit.

For example, you want to stop drinking, for me... easy, I linked MASSIVE amounts of pain to drinking. The cost of the drinks, the cost of a DUI, the hangovers, the knowing that I act like an idiot when Im drunk, that you sometimes post stupid shit while drunk.

Ok, drinking has never been a problem for me, I hate the hangovers... but I used the same approach to quit smoking cigarettes.

And Claythan used the same approach to stop blowing guys.

Your mind is driven to seek pleasure and eliminate pain. So, as long as drinking or smoking is pleasureable in your mind, it will be nearly impossible to quit.

You have to change your neuroassociative conditioning. And for some, its very difficult.

Oddly enough, it's because of pain that I'm trying to quit smoking, I've been fighting severe pain in my neck and shoulders for almost a year now. Last spring a spine specialist told me I have no excuse for complaining about the pain as long as I smoke, and I scoffed at it because it seems doctors like to blame everything on smoking. Nevertheless, I finally decided to give it a go since nothing else is helping, and sure enough I'm only one day in and I do seem to be feeling some relief. We'll see if that continues...

What will be ironic is when you look back at this moment and realize that not only did you save yourself, but probably were the catalyst for saving others while you were at it.

And that, if nothing else, will be worth more than money can buy. Your dedication to your cause will inspire many more to do the same.

To me nothing could ever top knowing I saved a person's life. And you are probably saving several SR. Good move!

Simply Red, I pretty much share your problem, brother. The thing that makes it impossible for me to stop, is ... football season. I cannot separate Chiefs football from ice cold beer. Or coming home on Friday from a soul-sucking week of work ... I get my own moral victories sometimes by cutting back on the amount I drink on the weekends, but I can't envision quitting completely because of that feeling that makes me enjoy it in the first place. I don't have any advice for you because I need some myself. Hang in there.

SR how you doin'?

Expect for things to get worse again before they get better. Quitting smoking can get pretty painful as your nerve endings come back awake and your cilia regrow. It made no sense to me at the time, but I remember getting sick all of the time, having a sore throat, coughing up tons of stuff, draining sinuses, being short of breath, and basically feeling like a had an upper-respiratory and a sinus infection for a few weeks when I quit. Then you'll start to feel much better.

Good lord, I'd better go on a cigarette run now. :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81umITy46us
youll be better than fine now.

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congrats man! if you've lasted this long, who's to say you can't last a LOT longer?