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Silock 12-23-2008 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325051)
Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.

Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:12 PM

Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

teedubya 12-23-2008 11:12 PM

My prediction may be a bit off. I'm not ****ing Nostradamus, Okay?

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:12 PM

UGH, we need a solid run here... We have 8 min left.. Even though we have played like ass, we are only down 10....

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325051)
Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.


Aldrich on Buddinger was a good call; one of few.

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325057)
Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

The first half?

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325057)
Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

Well still counting...

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:13 PM

Can anybody rebound on this team?

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 5325056)
Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.

He jumped right into him and hacked his shoulder.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:14 PM

Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:15 PM

KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325067)
Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

They let them play in the first half = whistle contest in the second...

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:16 PM

this team needs work on playing defense with their feet, and screening out

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325067)
Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325069)
KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

Sometimes that stat can be deceiving. If one team is attacking the basket while the other is shooting outside a lot, that can happen easily. Of course, that is not the case tonight.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:16 PM

KU being out boarded by 10 thus far.

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:17 PM

morningstar can't hang with budinger

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:17 PM

We are just getting taking to the woodshed right now...

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

On that last AZ possession, Buddinger jumped into Aldrich but they didn't call a foul. That rebound was Cole's.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325074)
It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

Not saying it is, but it seems like there is a whistle nearly every time down the court.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

Guess what?

Another foul...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

Wow that was grade school like........ and KU can't cash it in.

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:18 PM

if we weren't letting them score every frickin time down the court off second chance opportunities we'd be making a run, ok do we have to foul every single time down the court, the hawks defense is as depressing as the chiefs

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:19 PM

Guess what, 9 of the last 10 possessions down for AZ = foul on KU..

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:20 PM

Another foul on KU

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:20 PM

Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:20 PM

I was getting worried for a second. There wasn't a foul for 15 seconds.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325093)
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:21 PM

We deserve all the fouls we're getting.

Ceej 12-23-2008 11:21 PM

I'll take Jeff Withey, please.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:21 PM

5 min to go, down 12....

Fouls are killing us...

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:22 PM

Hey guess what?

Foul KU

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:22 PM

play defense with your FEET!!!!!!!

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325097)
:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...

Heh... I'm just sayin'... ;)

Skip Towne 12-23-2008 11:22 PM

This young team makes lots of mistakes.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:23 PM

Shit if I was playing for AZ I would just lower my head and run into KU every time down...... whistle will be blown on KU.

007 12-23-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325093)
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis.

Heh, like MUrons are any different. :D

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325093)
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5325106)
This young team makes lots of mistakes.

Understandable.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:24 PM

KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325111)
Understandable.

Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5325110)
Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:25 PM

this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

Ceej 12-23-2008 11:25 PM

I blame this loss solely on Mr. Plow. He said he wasn't going to make it.


Go to bed old man!

Skip Towne 12-23-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325114)
KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

The refs did it.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:26 PM

I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_CHIEFS_06 (Post 5325117)
this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325115)
Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....

I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:27 PM

This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325120)
I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.

Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325124)
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

I dont know, but I marked this off as a L at the beginning of the year... I didnt expect to lose to UMASS though...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:28 PM

As good of a first half the Morris twins had; the second half is just as bad.

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:28 PM

That guy Hill is a fouling mother ****er and they don't call shit on him.

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325126)
Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

I'll have to review the tape to see what happened /herm

chiefbowe82 12-23-2008 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325122)
Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:29 PM

ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325124)
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

I feel the same way about Illinios.

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325116)
You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

007 12-23-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325124)
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325136)
I feel the same way about Illinios.

Lol, but we do beat Arizona quite a bit I think the series sits at 7-3 advantage KU. About to go to 7-4.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_CHIEFS_06 (Post 5325133)
hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

:D

the rest are meh....

I am so ready for this season to pass and get on with the next guys coming in...

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325123)
I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 5325138)
Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.

Lzen 12-23-2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325135)
ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

No shit. Is it my imagination or should that have been called a flagrant?

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:32 PM

That game ****ing sucked.

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5325137)
Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

As did I. An easy foul call at any level of basketball.

Ceej 12-23-2008 11:33 PM

I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325141)
Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.


Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325123)
I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 5325146)
I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For ****s sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325150)
I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For ****s sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

ArrowheadHawk 12-23-2008 11:35 PM

A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325149)
Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325152)
Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

QFT

Mr. Plow 12-23-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325152)
Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

But but but....his dad played for KU.

KcMizzou 12-23-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325148)
I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...

Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

KC_Connection 12-23-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325152)
Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

That should be pretty obvious to anybody by now.

007 12-23-2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325142)
I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.

different kind of comeback though. The championship comeback was great but the UCLA comeback was friggin legendary. heh

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5325155)
A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 12-23-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325156)
There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.


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