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-King- 02-06-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5465894)
Do you trust Scot Pioli? Will you shut up when he brings in Thigpens replacement?

Yes. I'm pretty sure he knows more about this than anyone here. If he drafts a qb with the 3rd pick, I'll be fine and happy with it. For me, it's either Thigpen, Stafford, or Cassell. We can rule out Cassell. Im not fascinated with Sanchez as much because I dont really know if he's consistent. He played in an USC offense that is great year in and year out no matter who is at qb. I wouldnt put all my eggs on the Dirty Sanchez basket. Thigpen atleast needs a legit shot to be the starter. Stafford is a good qb who played in the best conference in all of college football(Sanchez played in a very average conference). But whatever happens happens. Im not going to bitch either way unlike you guys who will start PMSing if we dont draft Sanchez at 3(Im pretty sure Lions will take Stafford).

Mecca 02-06-2009 08:46 PM

Tell me who the best NFL prospects on the USC offense are...he wasn't playing with Dwayne Jarrett or Mike Williams..

People say this shit without even realizing what was going on at SC or who's on the team.

SAUTO 02-06-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465909)
Tell me who the best NFL prospects on the USC offense are...he wasn't playing with Dwayne Jarrett or Mike Williams..

People say this shit without even realizing what was going on at SC or who's on the team.

mike williams???

-King- 02-06-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465899)
The Raider and Falcons games say hello about him playing under center..

You are putting all your argument into stats when if you'd actually judge him on his games you'd get a different view. 18-11 the guy could have literally had 10-15 more balls picked what if he was 18-21? Thigpen had a magical stroke of luck where defenders kept dropping INT's that won't continue ask Damon Huard...

54% completion rate in an offense that is predicated on the QB making easy throws speaks volumes to how inaccurate he is.

The Patriots game says hello about Kurt Warner being near a football.


Your 2nd paragraph is based on a "what if" What's the point of it?

KC kid 02-06-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5465906)
Yes. I'm pretty sure he knows more about this than anyone here. If he drafts a qb with the 3rd pick, I'll be fine and happy with it. For me, it's either Thigpen, Stafford, or Cassell. We can rule out Cassell. Im not fascinated with Sanchez as much because I dont really know if he's consistent. He played in an USC offense that is great year in and year out no matter who is at qb. I wouldnt put all my eggs on the Dirty Sanchez basket. Thigpen atleast needs a legit shot to be the starter. Stafford is a good qb who played in the best conference in all of college football(Sanchez played in a very average conference). But whatever happens happens. Im not going to bitch either way unlike you guys who will start PMSing if we dont draft Sanchez at 3(Im pretty sure Lions will take Stafford).


I would not be shocked to see Pioli take a later round or lesser name FA Qb and start him ahead of "thiggy"

Mecca 02-06-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5465911)
mike williams???

Mike Williams was a GREAT college player that's the point I made there, he didn't have a player of that caliber with him when he was playing QB.

I literally wanna hear who this great USC offensive talent this past year was, people just think of Bush and Jarrett or Williams and assume it's always like that.

KC kid 02-06-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465915)
Mike Williams was a GREAT college player that's the point I made there, he didn't have a player of that caliber with him when he was playing QB.

I literally wanna hear who this great USC offensive talent this past year was, people just think of Bush and Jarrett or Williams and assume it's always like that.

USC does not have the top tier offensive talent they had in the past. I like Gable, but he is no Reggie Bush or Moreno

Mecca 02-06-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5465918)
USC does not have the top tier offensive talent they had in the past. I like Gable, but he is no Reggie Bush or Moreno

I think Stafon Johnson will be a starter in the NFL as a RB but he is not a super duper back.

And then who do you got after that? Damian Williams he's a nice player but he's not a star, the USC skill positions were down this year there was nothing resembling a Williams, Jarrett or Bush out there.

-King- 02-06-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465909)
Tell me who the best NFL prospects on the USC offense are...he wasn't playing with Dwayne Jarrett or Mike Williams..

People say this shit without even realizing what was going on at SC or who's on the team.

Yeah Dwayne Jarrett has really blown up. Just look at what he's become.

USC players have done terrible once they come into the league lately. The best ones were backups at USC(White/Cassel).

SAUTO 02-06-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465915)
Mike Williams was a GREAT college player that's the point I made there, he didn't have a player of that caliber with him when he was playing QB.

I literally wanna hear who this great USC offensive talent this past year was, people just think of Bush and Jarrett or Williams and assume it's always like that.

but as a prospect???

Mecca 02-06-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5465924)
Yeah Dwayne Jarrett has really blown up. Just look at what he's become.

USC players have done terrible once they come into the league lately. The best ones were backups at USC(White/Cassel).

I'm talking about what they were in college, jesus are you dumb?

The point was about who he's playing with at SC so it's what they are as college players, for the love of christ man.

KC kid 02-06-2009 08:55 PM

USC had an NFL defense and a low end division one offense. Sanchez really could use more experience though before locking him in the top 3 picks. I am stil a Stafford guy

-King- 02-06-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465915)
Mike Williams was a GREAT college player that's the point I made there, he didn't have a player of that caliber with him when he was playing QB.

I literally wanna hear who this great USC offensive talent this past year was, people just think of Bush and Jarrett or Williams and assume it's always like that.

No you dont get it. I'm saying that Sanchez has the talent to play. But he needs more experience. ONE year is not enough. He had 2 years to start after his red shirt year, and he's just now starting. Why? How come he couldn't beat out Booty for the job even after Booty had surgery? How do we know he didn't have a fluke year. After all, Booty didnt have Jarrett/Mike Williams/Reggie Bush talent either, and they posted almost the same numbers.

KC kid 02-06-2009 08:58 PM

can we all agree that leinart was a product of the talent around him and Sanchez does not have the same level of talent?

-King- 02-06-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5465930)
USC had an NFL defense and a low end division one offense. Sanchez really could use more experience though before locking him in the top 3 picks. I am stil a Stafford guy

Finally! This is what I'm saying. Sanchez obviously has talent, but he's as inexperienced as can be aside from being a rarity like Matt Cassell. Stafford is ready for the NFL. He is years ahead of Sanchez.

Mecca 02-06-2009 08:59 PM

Booty played with Jarrett there pal...

And for the record last year all the offensive coaches told Carroll they felt Sanchez should start over Booty and Carroll overruled them...

I think I know a bit more about SC than 99% of people that post here.

-King- 02-06-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5465939)
can we all agree that leinart was a product of the talent around him and Sanchez does not have the same level of talent?

Or is Leinart the one who made the people around him look like they had talent? Dwayne Jarrett is on the practice squad now and Steve Smith is a 4th string WR. Who knows?

-King- 02-06-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465944)
Booty played with Jarrett there pal...

And for the record last year all the offensive coaches told Carroll they felt Sanchez should start over Booty and Carroll overruled them...

I think I know a bit more about SC than 99% of people that post here.

True. But dont you think that he's inexperienced? I mean, one year is no reason to make you a #3 pick.

Mecca 02-06-2009 09:02 PM

LOL Jarrett is on the damn Panthers roster, I like how anyone who doesn't start is on the practice squad.

Jesus why must we get such dumbass posters?

Hammock Parties 02-06-2009 09:03 PM

Steve Smith caught 57 balls last year.

He's a damn good player.

SAUTO 02-06-2009 09:04 PM

williams is the only one who ended up just absolutely sucking, and leinart was a product of the talent around him IMO, Sanchez is a much better player and prospect IMO.

KC kid 02-06-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5465956)
Steve Smith caught 57 balls last year.

He's a damn good player.

and reggie bush and white? and sam baker

Mecca 02-06-2009 09:06 PM

Bush is a good player too, anyone who thinks he's a total bust is stupid they just expected way to much of him.

KC kid 02-06-2009 09:06 PM

I HATED Leinart coming out of college. I think Sanchez is ok and most years would be a mid teen pick. I think Stafford is a physical specimen above and beyong sanchez but that does not make him a better player

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-06-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 5465939)
can we all agree that leinart was a product of the talent around him and Sanchez does not have the same level of talent?

No. No we can not. I would normally insult you at this point. I am going to refrain, because the very question you pose says more about your dumbassery than I EVER could.

SAUTO 02-06-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5465968)
No. No we can not. I would normally insult you at this point. I am going to refrain, because the very question you pose says more about your dumbassery than I EVER could.

calm down, i think he meant that sanchez didnt have the talent around him leinart had

-King- 02-06-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465952)
LOL Jarrett is on the damn Panthers roster, I like how anyone who doesn't start is on the practice squad.

Jesus why must we get such dumbass posters?

He was on the practice squad for the whole 2007 season. Last season he was inactive most games.

-King- 02-06-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465965)
Bush is a good player too, anyone who thinks he's a total bust is stupid they just expected way to much of him.

He's ok, but for a #2 pick eh...

Mecca 02-06-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5465971)
He was on the practice squad for the whole 2007 season. Last season he was inactive most games.

He was on their roster...if any team put a 2nd round pick on their PS he'd get claimed in a matter of minutes.

Please don't argue something that isn't true he's been on their roster his entire career.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-06-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5465970)
calm down, i think he meant that sanchez didnt have the talent around him leinart had

You are correct; my apologies to KC Kid.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-06-2009 09:09 PM

Apologies to KC Kid.

SAUTO 02-06-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5465977)
You are correct; my apologies to KC Kid.

:D

Mecca 02-06-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5465974)
He's ok, but for a #2 pick eh...

Blame the Saints for that...even SC didn't use Bush as a workhorse back and that was in college.

Bush is a playmaker and extremely versatile but you aren't gonna pound him up the middle of your line 20 times that isn't his game.

Hell dude catches 100 passes.

Hammock Parties 02-06-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5465979)
Apologies to KC Kid.

Aw, you're so sweet!

-King- 02-06-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465976)
He was on their roster...if any team put a 2nd round pick on their PS he'd get claimed in a matter of minutes.

Please don't argue something that isn't true he's been on their roster his entire career.

Sorry, My bad, you're right. But still, he has been inactive most of his career

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-06-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5465984)
Aw, you're so sweet!

:doh!:Oi!

-King- 02-06-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5465983)
Blame the Saints for that...even SC didn't use Bush as a workhorse back and that was in college.

Bush is a playmaker and extremely versatile but you aren't gonna pound him up the middle of your line 20 times that isn't his game.

Hell dude catches 100 passes.

He isnt a work horse back, and the Saints didnt use him like one. They used McAllister for that.


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