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Reerun_KC 02-21-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514214)
Who gives a flying **** what YOU think?
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Hey look its a mirror!

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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514214)
Who gives a flying **** what YOU think?
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Again, still waiting for your Gridiron Brilliance, Professor Asshat!

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514207)
This take assumes a little that we address a couple players in FA on DEF: DL and LB specifically

:Poke: I'm assuming from statements much like this one, which I agree with, that you've settled on Albert as your LT for the long haul? Because, for the sake of debate, I can't say I'd have a problem with them taking Monroe with the #3 (play him @ LT), and moving Brandon across the pile to RT...unless that's not something he can do of course...

I realize and sympathize with the need for the QB, and to be honest, if either of these kids have "it" - take them...but presuming they don't, for the sake of debate...I have ZERO problem with a dominant LT.

Excellant post. This is exactly what I'm saying. Prepare to be attacked for it. :)
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the Talking Can 02-21-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514207)
This take assumes a little that we address a couple players in FA on DEF: DL and LB specifically

:Poke: I'm assuming from statements much like this one, which I agree with, that you've settled on Albert as your LT for the long haul? Because, for the sake of debate, I can't say I'd have a problem with them taking Monroe with the #3 (play him @ LT), and moving Brandon across the pile to RT...unless that's not something he can do of course...

I realize and sympathize with the need for the QB, and to be honest, if either of these kids have "it" - take them...but presuming they don't, for the sake of debate...I have ZERO problem with a dominant LT.

we already have a dominant LT

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5514219)
Again, still waiting for your Gridiron Brilliance, Professor Asshat!

About what? Do you have a question, ass hole?
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Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5514223)
we already have a dominant LT

Puh-leeze. Dominant?
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Reerun_KC 02-21-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514220)
Excellant post. This is exactly what I'm saying. Prepare to be attacked for it. :)
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So your wanting to cut Albert already?

SAUTO 02-21-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5514223)
we already have a dominant LT

i would agree

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514220)
Excellant post. This is exactly what I'm saying. Prepare to be attacked for it. :)
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I have EVERY problem taking a linemen at 3rd overall. Why? Because you don't pay linemen that kind of bank. You don't pay CORNERS that kind of bank, unless you happen to be a an old, geriatric, brain-dead fossil like Alzheimers Davis.

But please, Professor Asshat; enlighten me in the error of my ways!

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5514223)
we already have a dominant LT

The pistol requires three.

We're two drafts away from starting to improve the left side of the line.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 09:12 PM

Why bother. Obviously the only point of view that will please the ass hole club here is that a quarterback must be the pick no matter who that quarterback is. Any dissension amongst the other 85 percent on this board will not be tolerated without moronic verbal assault. You would think by listening to you amatuers that a OT, a LB, or a WR had never been taken with a #3 pick in the NFL. This only shows complete ignorance and its just a good thing the professionals who actually are doing the drafting don't read or give a shit what morons such as yourself have to say.
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soundmind 02-21-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514220)
Excellant post. This is exactly what I'm saying. Prepare to be attacked for it. :)
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I posted another thought in a different thread too...I'm getting more and more sold on Sanchez the more I find on him, but I can't say I'm completely comfortable with him either, there are obvious questions. But that's sort of a deducted thought process and not necessarily because he's the best player available, has to do more with dollars and need.

I'm in love with the idea of taking one of these badass centers with the 2nd round pick to help shore up some OL. However, again, that means we MUST address defense in FA if we are to compete at all this season, and I think we will.

Free Agency will change every thread on this website. I'm looking forward to it...just hoping Pioli has some ideas, and that we can land a couple keepers. Doesn't sound like Pioli is too worried about Cassel, I'd post a link but I can't, it's on PFT.

Some hopefuls:

FA (Ravens) Jason Brown, Bart Scott - I'll take em both, thank you.
FA (NYJ) Tony Richardson - Call it a homer, but he's the best FB I've ever seen.
FA (Bolts) Igor Olshansky - best 3-4 guy IMO that won't cost us a mint, he's a second contract guy, and 26 years old.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514257)
Why bother. Obviously the only point of view that will please the ass hole club here is that a quarterback must be the pick no matter who that quarterback is. Any dissension amongst the other 85 percent on this board will not be tolerated without moronic verbal assault. You would think by listening to you amatuers that a OT, a LB, or a WR had never been taken with a #3 pick in the NFL. This only shows complete ignorance and its just a good thing the professionals who actually doing the drafting don't read or give a shit what morons such as yourself has to say.
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Nice cop-out, you half a pussy-fart! Check your User CP for your reward!

4321

the Talking Can 02-21-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514225)
Puh-leeze. Dominant?
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abort yourself

ChiefsCountry 02-21-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514257)
Why bother. Obviously the only point of view that will please the ass hole club here is that a quarterback must be the pick no matter who that quarterback is. Any dissension amongst the other 85 percent on this board will not be tolerated without moronic verbal assault. You would think by listening to you amatuers that a OT, a LB, or a WR had never been taken with a #3 pick in the NFL. This only shows complete ignorance and its just a good thing the professionals who actually are doing the drafting don't read or give a shit what morons such as yourself have to say.
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How many right tackles and coverage linebackers who dont rush the passer were taken #3 overall?

Deberg_1990 02-21-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5514228)
I have EVERY problem taking a linemen at 3rd overall. Why? Because you don't pay linemen that kind of bank. You don't pay CORNERS that kind of bank, unless you happen to be a an old, geriatric, brain-dead fossil like Alzheimers Davis.

But please, Professor Asshat; enlighten me in the error of my ways!


Actually, you can take LT's that high. Corners no.

Mecca 02-21-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5514275)
How many right tackles and coverage linebackers who dont rush the passer were taken #3 overall?

I await this answer.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5514226)
So your wanting to cut Albert already?

When did I say cut Albert?
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soundmind 02-21-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5514296)
Actually, you can take LT's that high. Corners no.

Based on "basic drafting principles" of no real creed, I completely agree.

Top 5 CB though...I would've taken Bailey that high coming out.

Reerun_KC 02-21-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514307)
When did I say cut Albert?
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Then why draft a LT?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-21-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514207)
This take assumes a little that we address a couple players in FA on DEF: DL and LB specifically

:Poke: I'm assuming from statements much like this one, which I agree with, that you've settled on Albert as your LT for the long haul? Because, for the sake of debate, I can't say I'd have a problem with them taking Monroe with the #3 (play him @ LT), and moving Brandon across the pile to RT...unless that's not something he can do of course...

I realize and sympathize with the need for the QB, and to be honest, if either of these kids have "it" - take them...but presuming they don't, for the sake of debate...I have ZERO problem with a dominant LT.

Jesus ****. Why would you spend the #15 pick on a guy to play RT when he's already proven he can play LT and you can get RTs in the 3rd and 4th rounds? Moreover, why blow a #3 pick on an LT when you already have one and you need a quarterback and there are two elite prospects?

soundmind 02-21-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5514275)
How many right tackles and coverage linebackers who dont rush the passer were taken #3 overall?

I'm certainly not equating the guy to DT or LT, but what is all the negative buzz on Curry's pass rush abilities? That may not have been his highlight reel, but he makes a lot of plays behind the line...the guy is quick.

Clint Sintim seems to me to be the guy if you want a rushing OLB in this one, and he's certainly not that early pick...but I'm just saying, Curry looks solid.

soundmind 02-21-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514314)
Jesus ****. Why would you spend the #15 pick on a guy to play RT when he's already proven he can play LT and you can get RTs in the 3rd and 4th rounds? Moreover, why blow a #3 pick on an LT when you already have one and you need a quarterback and there are two elite prospects?

"for the sake of debate" - do these words mean something other than what I thought? Are you guys all fired up on whiskey and just angry about something?

Deberg_1990 02-21-2009 09:30 PM

Its clear alot of people dont understand draft value and core postions.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-21-2009 09:30 PM

Resign Tony Richardson?

LMAO LMAO LMAO

soundmind 02-21-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514314)
Jesus ****. Why would you spend the #15 pick on a guy to play RT when he's already proven he can play LT and you can get RTs in the 3rd and 4th rounds? Moreover, why blow a #3 pick on an LT when you already have one and you need a quarterback and there are two elite prospects?

And I was genuinely just throwing it out for debate, we should, and will draft one of these 2 guys.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-21-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514317)
I'm certainly not equating the guy to DT or LT, but what is all the negative buzz on Curry's pass rush abilities? That may not have been his highlight reel, but he makes a lot of plays behind the line...the guy is quick.

Clint Sintim seems to me to be the guy if you want a rushing OLB in this one, but I'm just sayin...

Aaron Curry isn't Lawrence Taylor. It's not what he does. He's Derrick Brooks if he absolutely becomes everything he could ever hope to be.

Rush backers change games. Cover backers make it more difficult to pass to the tight end and run to the outside.

The mere fact that a guy is a LB doesn't mean he's the same as every other backer.

A 4-3 DE is far different than a 3-4 DE, and a 3-4 DT is far different from a 4-3 DT.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5514275)
How many right tackles and coverage linebackers who dont rush the passer were taken #3 overall?

Why are you asking? What does this have to do with anything I've said in this thread. Right tackle? I don't know wtf you are talking about. My position is this. If Pioli determines the qbs in question are good enough to warrant taking them at #3 he will and should do it. If he doesn't then he won't and shouldn't and in the long history of the nfl non quarterbacks have been taken with the #3 and making such a selection was not an act of a reerun.

That is a reasonable position taken by most fans. But the it must be qb no matter what crowd here has bonded together like a gay dance troupe. Enjoy your circle jerk. Please remember to use condoms when inserting your dicks in each others mouths

I'm still waiting to hear more about your leaders position that sanchez should be picked because his brother went to Yale.

Asswipes.
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soundmind 02-21-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514321)
Resign Tony Richardson?

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Oh c'mon....how can you not love TRICH!?! :D

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-21-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514322)
And I was genuinely just throwing it out for debate, we should, and will draft one of these 2 guys.

Ok.

Here's why you can't.

You've already given Branden Albert 10-15 million in guarantees and close to 30 overall.

If you moved him to RT that makes him one of the highest paid RTs in the league, which is a far less important position than LT, a position at which he has shown pro bowl potential, and at which he isn't even paid that much.

Plus, most RTs in this league are mid rounders.

So if you move Albert to RT you do several things--

You significantly decrease his draft value
You significantly hamper your cap because you are far above the average pay scale for the position at which he'll play
You move him to a less important position on the OL which he is not as well suited to play.

Moreover, you've created a hole at the most important position on the offensive line.

So, would you rather pay Branden Albert 30 mil to protect your blindside, and someone like Feneki Tupou 3 million, and draft a guy like Sanchez or Stafford to be your franchise QB...

or,

Would you rather pay Eugene Monroe 55 million, Albert 30, and have Tyler Thigpen as your franchise QB, while paying Nate Davis or Rhett Bomar 3-5 million?

It doesn't make any sense.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514327)
Why are you asking? What does this have to do with anything I've said in this thread. Right tackle? I don't know wtf you are talking about. My position is this. If Pioli determines the qbs in question are good enough to warrant taking them at #3 he will and should do it. If he doesn't then he won't and shouldn't and in the long history of the nfl non quarterbacks have been taken with the #3 and making such a selection was not an act of a reerun.

That is a reasonable position taken by most fans. But the it must be qb no matter what crowd here has bonded together like a gay dance troupe. Enjoy your circle jerk. Please remember to condoms when inserting your dicks in each others mouths

I'm still waiting to hear more about your leaders position that sanchez should be picked because his brother went to Yale.

Asswipes.
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You are a complete ****ing cum rag.

soundmind 02-21-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514323)
Aaron Curry isn't Lawrence Taylor. It's not what he does. He's Derrick Brooks if he absolutely becomes everything he could ever hope to be.

Rush backers change games. Cover backers make it more difficult to pass to the tight end and run to the outside.

The mere fact that a guy is a LB doesn't mean he's the same as every other backer.

A 4-3 DE is far different than a 3-4 DE, and a 3-4 DT is far different from a 4-3 DT.

Definitely, there's no denying any of that, but hell, Brooks changed a lot of games too. No doubt there's a lot to be said for schemes and specific talents of individuals...

unothadeal 02-21-2009 09:42 PM

We need to get Michael Johnson with our 1st because he might not make it to when we draft in the 2nd.

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514336)
Would you rather pay Eugene Monroe 55 million, Albert 30, and have Tyler Thigpen as your franchise QB, while paying Nate Davis or Rhett Bomar 3-5 million?

Of course! Because it's safer!

The only position that has ever busted--there's that mother****ing word, again-- in round 1 in the history of the NFL draft is QB.

ChiefsCountry 02-21-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514327)
Why are you asking? What does this have to do with anything I've said in this thread. Right tackle? I don't know wtf you are talking about. My position is this. If Pioli determines the qbs in question are good enough to warrant taking them at #3 he will and should do it. If he doesn't then he won't and shouldn't and in the long history of the nfl non quarterbacks have been taken with the #3 and making such a selection was not an act of a reerun.
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Because this explains why QB should be our pick.

Mecca 02-21-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5514353)
Definitely, there's no denying any of that, but hell, Brooks changed a lot of games too. No doubt there's a lot to be said for schemes and specific talents of individuals...

And Curry is not remotely as fast as Brooks was...

It's just not worth it you'd be better off taking a guy like Marcus Freeman in the 3rd round.

PHOG 02-21-2009 09:57 PM

You people are still debating this from this morning? If a QB is worth the pick, then I'm sure we'll take it, if not, then I'm asuming that we'll do what is best for the TEAM....

Question: If we DON'T take a QB with the 1st rd pick, will all the QB (it's this year or bust) crowd turn on Pioli? :doh!:

soundmind 02-21-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514336)

It doesn't make any sense.

You know, I'm extremely happy with Albert's play thus far and agree he's got that kind of potential...to quote Haley, "Brandon is the least of our problems". But we are far from complete up front, and definitely need a C/RG/RT in my opinion, and that's just the line.

Again, I'm interested to see what we do in FA to address some of these "holes".

If the draft were tomorrow, I agree we're taking a QB.

Mecca 02-21-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 5514395)
You people are still debating this from this morning? If a QB is worth the pick, then I'm sure we'll take it, if not, then I'm asuming that we'll do what is best for the TEAM....

Question: If we DON'T take a QB with the 1st rd pick, will all the QB (it's this year or bust) crowd turn on Pioli? :doh!:

We'll just be ****ed for 3 years so it's not really a position I'd like to be in.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5514367)
Because this explains why QB should be our pick.

Because you are convinced the qbs in question are worth it. Fine. If Pioli agrees you got it. If not you don't and you can either figure Pioli knows what he's doing or you can convince yourself you know much more than he does.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 02-21-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514478)
Because you are convinced the qbs in question are worth it. Fine. If Pioli agrees you got it. If not you don't and you can either figure Pioli knows what he's doing or you can convince yourself you know much more than he does.
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Please walk into this:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...alomartree.jpg

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 10:26 PM

ROFL

Rigodan 02-21-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514478)
Because you are convinced the qbs in question are worth it. Fine. If Pioli agrees you got it. If not you don't and you can either figure Pioli knows what he's doing or you can convince yourself you know much more than he does.
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Either tell us why these qb's aren't worth it or STFU!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 10:27 PM

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 5514395)
You people are still debating this from this morning? If a QB is worth the pick, then I'm sure we'll take it, if not, then I'm asuming that we'll do what is best for the TEAM....

Question: If we DON'T take a QB with the 1st rd pick, will all the QB (it's this year or bust) crowd turn on Pioli? :doh!:

Of course they will because they are effen geniuses. The draft is "their thing". Of course in a few years when the chiefs are strong contenders the same people will be jumping on the Pioli/Haley bandwagon claiming they knew it all along. Always the same with internet geniuses.
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soundmind 02-21-2009 10:28 PM

:crybaby: man, I want to post graphics.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514498)
Of course they will because they are effen geniuses. The draft is "their thing". Of course in a few years when the chiefs are strong contenders the same people will be jumping on the Pioli/Haley bandwagon claiming they knew it all along. Always the same with internet geniuses.
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Are you Scott Pioli in subterfuge, or do you just wash his balls?

Chieftain58 02-21-2009 10:35 PM

What position if we didn't need a QB?

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain58 (Post 5514517)
What position if we didn't need a QB?

doggy sans astro-glide.

soundmind 02-21-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain58 (Post 5514517)
What position if we didn't need a QB?

Well, if I had a million dollars, I'd...

...there's no getting around it, we need one, bad. However, to comply...Defensive front 7, no question to me - specific player TBD on base defense.

:D

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5514492)
Either tell us why these qb's aren't worth it or STFU!!!

This is great. First off, can ya read? I'm not making the ****ing pick. You are not making the ****ing pick. PIoli is making the pick. So why do I have to show that neither qb is worth it? I wasn't all that impressed in stafford when I saw him. And I would think a "franchise qb" would impress me in college. Bottom line is for the 88th time its not up to us. I trust Piolis judgement if he picks one of the two fine. If he doesn't then evidently he wasn't impressed. Why does this bother the shit out of you guys so much

Do you really think you know any of this crap more than Pioli???
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514524)
This is great. First off, can ya read? I'm not making the ****ing pick. You are not making the ****ing pick. PIoli is making the pick. So why do I have to show that neither qb is worth it? I wasn't all that impressed in stafford when I saw him. And I would think a "franchise qb" would impress me in college. Bottom line is for the 88th time its not up to us. I trust Piolis judgement if he picks one of the two fine. If he doesn't then evidently he wasn't impressed. Why does this bother the shit out of you guys so much

Do you really think you know any of this crap more than Pioli???
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He IS Pioli! ROFL

CaliforniaChief 02-21-2009 10:41 PM

The biggest part of this evaluation has to be the interviews/film study sessions where teams get to watch these guys break down tape and demonstrate their intellectual ability to be a QB. And without being privy to these sessions, I don't know how anyone other than the teams and the people these teams talk to would have a clue what the facts on these guys really are.

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514524)
This is great. First off, can ya read? I'm not making the ****ing pick. You are not making the ****ing pick. PIoli is making the pick. So why do I have to show that neither qb is worth it? I wasn't all that impressed in stafford when I saw him. And I would think a "franchise qb" would impress me in college. Bottom line is for the 88th time its not up to us. I trust Piolis judgement if he picks one of the two fine. If he doesn't then evidently he wasn't impressed. Why does this bother the shit out of you guys so much

Do you really think you know any of this crap more than Pioli???
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:spock:

Why are you posting on a football message board then?

You realize that this is supposed to be the entire purpose of this type of forum? We actually debate things here.

Is "Leave it to Pioli" it?

I get it. This is your schtick. It's like how Blueballs writes in verse rather than prose. You're the any answer is "Pioli" guy.

Rigodan 02-21-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514524)
This is great. First off, can ya read? I'm not making the ****ing pick. You are not making the ****ing pick. PIoli is making the pick. So why do I have to show that neither qb is worth it? I wasn't all that impressed in stafford when I saw him. And I would think a "franchise qb" would impress me in college. Bottom line is for the 88th time its not up to us. I trust Piolis judgement if he picks one of the two fine. If he doesn't then evidently he wasn't impressed. Why does this bother the shit out of you guys so much

Do you really think you know any of this crap more than Pioli???
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We don't know what the **** Pioli is going to do! That is why we can have opinions about it. That's what the board is for, discussing/arguing about the chiefs. If you're not going to argue for a position why are you here? You offer nothing to this board.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain58 (Post 5514517)
What position if we didn't need a QB?

Frankly if it were me either front defensive seven or offensive line.
Best available


I see what this is really all about. You guys really do think you know more than Pioli. You are that psycho to think that.

Internet chat users. Pretty sad.

And because I readily admit that a guy who helped build a dynasty knows more than me I'm suddenly a ballwasher?

**** you. Don't choke on your cheetos losers.
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Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5514535)
We don't know what the **** Pioli is going to do! That is why we can have opinions about it. That's what the board is for, discussing/arguing about the chiefs. If you're not going to argue for a position why are you here? You offer nothing to this board.

And I can have an opinion about it too so **** you.

Your qb only crowd constantly insults those whose opinion differs but when you get a push back you act like you are being told you can't have an opinion. Its not an outragous thing to say that I do trust Pioli. The guy has helped build a champion. What has been won here?
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Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5514528)
He IS Pioli! ROFL

**** you douchebag. I guess you know more than Pioli right internet genius?
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5514531)
The biggest part of this evaluation has to be the interviews/film study sessions where teams get to watch these guys break down tape and demonstrate their intellectual ability to be a QB. And without being privy to these sessions, I don't know how anyone other than the teams and the people these teams talk to would have a clue what the facts on these guys really are.

Nice take, and Rep!










DID YOU SEE THAT PROFESSOR ASSHAT? THAT'S HOW IT'S ****ING DONE.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5514531)
The biggest part of this evaluation has to be the interviews/film study sessions where teams get to watch these guys break down tape and demonstrate their intellectual ability to be a QB. And without being privy to these sessions, I don't know how anyone other than the teams and the people these teams talk to would have a clue what the facts on these guys really are.

Uh-oh. Now they are going to call you a Pioli ballwasher.
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Crush 02-21-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ConstantlyBitching
Uh-oh. Now they are going to call you a Pioli ballwasher.
Posted via Mobile Device Inside Pioli's ass


You really need a new schtick.

cdcox 02-21-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514524)

Do you really think you know any of this crap more than Pioli???
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You do realize that sooner or later Pioli is going to make a 1st round pick that is going to bust, or he is going to pass on someone that turns out to be really good. And when that happens there will be a bunch of people on here that will have been right about the bust or right about the stud we passed over. Pioli isn't infallible. A lot of people on here have pretty informed opinions. If you give them a chance you might learn something.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5514532)
:spock:

Why are you posting on a football message board then?

You realize that this is supposed to be the entire purpose of this type of forum? We actually debate things here.

Is "Leave it to Pioli" it?

I get it. This is your schtick. It's like how Blueballs writes in verse rather than prose. You're the any answer is "Pioli" guy.

You can. You just aren't required to call people noobs and reeruns and ballwashers if they don't agree with you

To debate the draft and call people idiots you disagree with. Its almost like you are in a psychotic fantasy world where you think if you win the argument then that thing is going to happen. Why can't you discuss it without abusing people and acting like what gets determined in here is the ****ing end of the world? Lighten the **** up will you people?
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DeezNutz 02-21-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5514589)
You do realize that sooner or later Pioli is going to make a 1st round pick that is going to bust, or he is going to pass on someone that turns out to be really good. And when that happens there will be a bunch of people on here that will have been right about the bust or right about the stud we passed over. Pioli isn't infallible. A lot of people on here have pretty informed opinions. If you give them a chance you might learn something.

It's schtick. From username to posts.

Has to be.

And to respond to the previous, I don't believe I've ever called anyone a name on this forum. I might be wrong, but it's typically not my style, and it would be a rare occurrence.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5514589)
You do realize that sooner or later Pioli is going to make a 1st round pick that is going to bust, or he is going to pass on someone that turns out to be really good. And when that happens there will be a bunch of people on here that will have been right about the bust or right about the stud we passed over. Pioli isn't infallible. A lot of people on here have pretty informed opinions. If you give them a chance you might learn something.

Who said he was infallible? Of course he'll.make mistakes. But he knows more than anyone here that's for sure
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ClevelandBronco 02-21-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514567)
**** you douchebag. I guess you know more than Pioli right internet genius?
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Ride with it, man. These guys are successful in throwing their weight around here and nowhere else.

Monday morning they'll have no choice but to be eating shit again. That fuel burns hot.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5514593)
It's schtick. From username to posts.

Has to be.

And to respond to the previous, I don't believe I've ever called anyone a name on this forum. I might be wrong, but it's typically not my style, and it would be a rare occurrence.

Maybe you haven't. Others have.

So now we have the new catchphrase. Schtick.

One guy says it so now everyone else will to?

Brilliant
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ClevelandBronco 02-21-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5514487)

What is that, 'Hamas'?

DeezNutz 02-21-2009 11:16 PM

Yes, that one guy was me.

cdcox 02-21-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514604)
Who said he was infallible? Of course he'll.make mistakes. But he knows more than anyone here that's for sure
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Why do you keep talking about Pioli? Are you his wife? She knows more about him than anyone on here, that's for sure. No one should act like they know anything about Pioli since they don't know as much about him as his wife.

Crush 02-21-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514604)
Who said he was infallible? Of course he'll.make mistakes. But he knows more than anyone here that's for sure
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514599)
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No, you stupid ****ing ball-licker; he brought a fresh perspective on the overall gist of the topic.

He brought something no one else had touched on, and he did so in a manner that didn't come across as a butt-hurt n00b dancing the hokey-pokey with a carrot up his ass!

PHOG 02-21-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5514402)
We'll just be ****ed for 3 years so it's not really a position I'd like to be in.

OK....there's really no good QBs for the next 3 years?? You're really set against Bradford?? Even after he said he's not ready for the NFL, and needs to build body stength and better recognization skills? Just asking...

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514498)
Of course they will because they are effen geniuses. The draft is "their thing". Of course in a few years when the chiefs are strong contenders the same people will be jumping on the Pioli/Haley bandwagon claiming they knew it all along. Always the same with internet geniuses.
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Sounds like this is becoming a pissing match (or mismatch) so I'll just go back to minding myown business.

Shaid 02-21-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5512760)
What need would you like to address?

1. We have a LT.
2. There isn't an elite DE in the draft (that we know of).
3. There isn't an elite rush backer in the draft (that we know of).

Don't say RT.

This is the most solid arguement for drafting a QB at 3. Now, if by some miracle we could trade out of 3 and back a couple of spots and still get the guy we want, then great. I just don't see it happening. I think our best bet is to "gamble" on Sanchez and see if he can be our Franchise QB.

I will say this, if we draft him we sure the hell better get some players to protect him so we don't ruin him right away. That's a lot of money to spend on a piņata.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5514628)
Why do you keep talking about Pioli? Are you his wife? She knows more about him than anyone on here, that's for sure. No one should act like they know anything about Pioli since they don't know as much about him as his wife.

No shit.

I think this guy is Pioli's little net-troll.

"Alright Wang, get your ass on the net and find out the general pulse of the fan base on several forums".

Oooohhh, yes SIR Mr. Pioree; sankyou"!

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5514628)
Why do you keep talking about Pioli? Are you his wife? She knows more about him than anyone on here, that's for sure. No one should act like they know anything about Pioli since they don't know as much about him as his wife.

I'm sorry. I thought this was a football forum. I believe the GM who is running the draft is a big part of the draft discussion

So go back to whacking off
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FAX 02-21-2009 11:24 PM

Personally, I haven't seen a single post by El Zombo that is substantive. I'm sure I missed something but they're few and far between if they exist at all.

From what I can tell, all he's done since he arrived is slam other posters and remind us all that Pioli knows more than we do - which, of course, may well be true. Nevertheless, it kind of hampers conversation.

Based on his English skills, Zombo is uneducated. And probably socially inept, as well. I'm going to chalk it up to that, but I wish he'd at least come forward with some ideas and forgo this constant comparison of our experience as NFL front office executives and Pioli's.

FAX THE WEARY OF THIS

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5514642)
No shit.

I think this guy is Pioli's little net-troll.

"Alright Wang, get your ass on the net and find out the general pulse of the fan base on several forums".

Oooohhh, yes SIR Mr. Pioree; sankyou"!

Have you even used your dick for anything the last 8 or 9 years for anything other than jamming it into your hand?
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DeezNutz 02-21-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 5514640)
This is the most solid arguement for drafting a QB at 3. Now, if by some miracle we could trade out of 3 and back a couple of spots and still get the guy we want, then great. I just don't see it happening. I think our best bet is to "gamble" on Sanchez and see if he can be our Franchise QB.

I will say this, if we draft him we sure the hell better get some players to protect him so we don't ruin him right away. That's a lot of money to spend on a piņata.

Absolutely.

Improving the QB position and improving the O-line aren't mutually exclusive. We can do both this off-season, and both are pressing needs.

But the point is to identify the best avenues to accomplish these goals. We're already solid at LT. It would be beyond foolish to even consider taking a RT, guard, or center with our first-round pick.

cdcox 02-21-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5514645)
I'm sorry. I thought this was a football forum. I believe the GM who is running the draft is a big part of the draft discussion

So go back to whacking off
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So you are proposing that our forum adopt the view that expressing an partially informed opinion about the GM is okay but doing the same about a player is out of bounds?


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