You lose at life. :p

With the 22nd pick of the first round and still reeling from their loss in Super Bowl IV the Minnesota Vikings select Alex Mack, center, Cal.

Knowing that it's unlikely that he's still available when our early 2nd round pick comes around, the Patriots do what they did last year with Jarod Mayo - target a player, and take him, even if others think he's a reach.

This guy is the epitome of the Patriot Way, and will help solidify the middle of the Patriots defense for the next decade alongside Mayo.

Adios, Tedy Bruschi.

The New England Patriots select:

James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State

I should be on around 8-9 PST to make my pick.....if it's progessed that far by then.

So is Duke Robinson the next pick? :p

ok so we now have some draft analysis from chiefscafan

I''m happy to pop in and give my analysis on the annual chiefsplanet mock draft


so here we go

detroit - excellent pick Stafford is the qb a franchise can build around and let's face it they need all the help they can get.

rams - Jason Smith. Kid has tremendous talent will be the next pace . Offensive line is allways a safe pick well unless your name is Mandrich

KC - Wow sanchez a major head scratcher. Seeing the chiefs just tradded for cassel this doesn't make much since.

Seahawks- Monroe great pick. Young powerful o lineman just what this team needs. The Housh signing makes picking receiver not a priority.

Browns- Curry . Excellent line backer can play in mangini's switch to 3-4 should of probably been the kc pick.

Bengals Brown. Very talented and quick boom or bust type player.

Raiders- Macklin very quick and ellusive just the type of player AL likes

Jags - Crabtree great steal shouldn't have fallen this far definite steal

Packers - Raji . Stout against run and can be dominant

49ers - Orakopo Could be great only question is what happend to him in the Oklahoma game?

LMAO

Everyone in the top 10 is kicking ass except the Chiefs, huh? Sounds about right, per the national media.

Explain to me why Brown is a boom or bust player when Orakpo is not.

Give me ONE reason.

And if that's your only question about Orakpo I have to wonder if the Oklahoma game is the only one you watched.

In the '08 draft, many thought that the Falcons could be looking at Glen Dorsey to fill a spot in the middle of thier D-Line, and Peria Jerry could get a look here, but the Falcons also lost LB Michael Boley to the Giants in free agency, so going with "The Patriot Way" since Thomas Dimitrof is the GM, the Falcons select Clay Matthews, OLB, USC.

Many will think this is a little high for Matthews, but he fits the Patriot model, smart, tough, and a hard worker, and will be able to come in and start right away.

Not to mention Brooking. I expected Matthews to go to a 3-4 team but I think he can even be an impact player in the 4-3.

Clay Matthews would have been the pick. Searching for a pass rush the Phins select:

Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois

the dude took Gholston #1 overall last year...

Thank ****ing god Hamas isn't our GM...

You're an idiot. You ruined this whole mock draft by doing something stupid...you should have realized that Cassel was the QB and drafted accordingly, instead you made the first round of this draft completely unrealistic by taking Sanchez...something that WON'T happen at #3 now that we have Cassel. Way to go, you arrogant ****tard.

No, you're an arrogant asshole who just mocked OTWP's hard work in putting this thing together by ensuring the entire 1st 15 picks won't be legit because you did something that will never happen at #3...

So way to go.

The Chiefs ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE A QB AT #3. They aren't going to spend their first two picks, TWO HIGH PICKS, on QB's...

So Hamas basically just spit in OTWP and everyone participating in this draft's face.

I guess he did it out of spite for the Cassel trade...which is more than what can be said for him taking Gholston #1 overall last year.

so the new regime should allow ONE draft pick to dictate the future of the organization?

They clearly believe in a different system...you suggest they allow one guy to hold that belief hostage?

For being as intelligent as you are, you certainly are an arrogant dumbass.

Imagine that Hootie showing up and being a complete moron.

It's like taking Sanchez at #3 and Freeman at #34...

WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. You're ****ing stupid.

Imagine that, ChiefsCountry, the biggest dick sucker of the drafturbators, chiming in on behalf of one of his boyfriends.

Sorry dickwad, you'll never be as relevant to this board as the true drafturbators, but I bet they'll keep letting you suck their dicks as long as you don't bite.

I'm Hootie, I'm a cool bartender who sucks off shitty players like Huard and Thigpen and can make cute little names on a message board.

maybe with the next Chiefs draft selection Hamas will draft someone that fits the 4-3 because he doesn't agree with our switch to the 3-4!!!

This could be the best mock draft yet! Draft a whole bunch of guys that completely contradict the way Pioli is taking the organization! PROVE YOUR POINT HAMAS!

****ing idiot.

How do you strike out the most coveted GM prospect in YEARS in less than a month?

That right there shows how incredible arrogant/ignorant the know-it-all Hamas Jenkins is when it comes to football...regardless of how infrequently he uses incorrect grammar.

Dude.....guess what? You don't like it....get the **** out. It's a MOCK draft. Get over your ****ing self.

Shouldn't you be bookmarking Mecca posts and studying them so you can ensure you two are on the same page at all times so you know what opinion you should have on a subject in case you need to post while he's not around to defend his take?

Yeah me and Mecca agree on everything :LOL:

Seriousally go **** yourself and get the **** out of the mock draft forum, you bring nothing to it.

Yeah, it's a mock draft that Hamas decided to take a shit on because of his vendetta with the Cassel trade.

This mock is reflecting REAL LIFE NFL TRADES...that's why the Chiefs no longer have the #34 overall...BECAUSE OF THE MATT CASSEL TRADE...which means there is no way they are taking Sanchez at #3...

So instead of keeping the integrity of the mock in tact, Mr. Arrogant decided to ruin the whole first 15 picks of the draft and made the first round of this mock completely irrelevant...

I was interested in seeing which 'GM' was going to take Sanchez...I can't say I'm surprised that Hamas decided to shit all over the rest of you...that's the type of person he is.

Shit, you're probably right. I mean, at least you'll provide a personal fluffing for Hamas whenever he shows up...what will I provide? I mean, other than the common sense that THE CHIEFS AREN'T GOING TO DRAFT SANCHEZ AT #3...

Hamas should just be banned from the 1st round of these mock drafts...Gholston at #1 a year ago and Sanchez at #3 this year when the Chiefs just traded for their QB...he's obviously a ****ing idiot...and no, ChiefsCountry, I don't want you sucking my dick, ever, so please stay away.

Wow, Hootie literally picked out every post by Hamas and responded to them individually.

el oh el

For the record, Hootie, this is a Draft that doesn't reflect any trades that happen after this point, or any compensatory picks (for now), or any trades for picks that could occur between us.

So, to be frankly, there is nothing realistic about this particular set of picks. It only exists to display what each team MAY be thinking in certain SITUATIONS.

In other words, you don't really have a point, you just have an axe to grind with Hamas.

Which I'm totally fine with, by the way. I think this mock could USE a good old-fashioned Internet bitch fight.

But let's call a spade a spade here.

What are you talking about?

He picked a QB at #3 when we just traded for what our regime thinks is a franchise QB...

It was a dumb ****ing pick that ruined the integrity of the first 15 picks...

I was curious to see where Sanchez would end up now that KC isn't going to take him and Hamas (who has already struck out Pioli in less than a month of service with the team) ruined that for EVERYONE because he's an arrogant little bitch and thinks he knows MUCH more than he really does.

Who do you think would take him?

I don't know, Hamas ruined it by doing something that WON'T happen no matter what because he's an arrogant, stubborn prick who somehow thinks he is more qualified to build a football team than Scott Pioli.

The mock draft thread is not for someone not participating in the mock to pick fights in it...

If you'd like to pick a fight about the draft or the "drafturbators" you should probably pick a better place than this thread.

And anyway with your constant shots to the draft why are you even in this forum?

I love the draft...I don't know what you're talking about? I know you build your team using the draft, not free agency...

I lurk in these mock drafts all the time...I thought the one last year was awesome.

I just can't believe Hamas decided to mess with the integrity of the draft because he's a ****ing tool bag that is an arrogant piece of shit.

You really, really need your ass whipped.

What is the downside of taking Sanchez #3?

Cassel plays for 2 years, either proves that he can hack it or he can't. If he sucks it up after one year, you still have a potential franchise QB that you can turn to, and you have a solid backup quarterback.

If Cassel plays well, but not great, and they like Sanchez more, they can offload Cassel for more than what they paid for him, because they aren't up against the cap like the Patriots and can afford to hold on to him.

If Cassel plays well and they don't like Sanchez, they can still offload him to another team for draft picks to recoup some of the loss (see Walsh, Steve).

If they both play well you have a 49ers scenario and you can unload the older guy for high compensation to a team ready to win now. Oh NOEZ!!

Worst case scenario: They both suck ass, and you're picking at the top of the draft for a few years. And this is worse than now, how?

I'm sorry, but I like those odds, especially given that Sanchez has much more upside than Cassel.

Hootie's thoughts on Matt Cassel:
Originally Posted by Redrum_69 http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Now if only Cassell gets hurt...

that would be even better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

And yet, here you are giving the mother****er a dutch rudder. STFD, STFU, and GTFO out of this forum.

That just goes in line with what I said about the poll that was up, a guy puts on a Chiefs uni and everyone will 180 their views.

If you don't do the same they get all pissy and say you're a terrible fan.

I guess Hamas didn't get the post at the end where I said Cassel was building confidence in that right system and that if Brady wasn't ready Cassel would get MVP consideration next year in New England...

...

and we're talking about Matt friggin' Cassel.

Clearly a ringing endorsement. Shut the **** up. You got owned. You change your opinions like the ****ing wind.

How did I get owned? You quoted posts I made when NO ONE KNEW MATT CASSEL was going to come on at the end of the year like he did...

The one post you quoted of me with Cassel at the end of the season was when I said he'd be in MVP consideration next year if he was the starter again...

And yes, it is Matt friggin' Cassel just like it was once Tom friggin' Brady...winning BUILDS confidence...

I got owned yet I said Matt Cassel would be an MVP candidate next year if Brady wasn't ready?

Ok...

I would never want Cassel here if PIOLI wasn't here...he's bringing the same atmosphere Cassel knew in New England to Kansas City...

So STFU dude...you are the dumbass who ruined the entire first round of this mock by doing something that will never happen because you think you are BETTER than Pioli...you're a ****ing moron.

I can't wait to see the 4-3 OLB or 4-3 DE you take in the 3rd round...

You're such a ****ing dipshit.

WTF, more picks and less bitchin' and moanin' would be nice.

Works for me. I wasn't the psycho who stormed the thread like William Ligue Jr.

You're just the one that made the entire 1st round of this thing irrelevant.

I never knew why Hootie catches so much **** until this thread and now I understand.

Yeah you get shit for telling it how it is on this site...I don't get it either. Thanks for noticing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfeihc http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
I never knew why Hootie catches so much **** until this thread and now I understand.


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Idiot I know he was bashing me...I was deflecting it...I'll go google image search 'sarcasm detector' so I can be witty like you...dumbshit.

:BS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...m_detector.jpg

I CAN GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH JUST LIKE HAMAS JENKINS!!!

I find it hilarious...you are probably one of the most book smart people on this site...yet you're such an arrogant asshole you don't realize how much common sense you've lacked since this whole Cassel to KC thing has happened. You're such an arrogant dumbass you have struck out Pioli before he had a month to be the GM of the Chiefs. You are such an arrogant dumbass you ruined one of the coolest things going on this site (this mock draft) by being the 'Chiefs GM' and drafting a QB at #3 when they just spent #34 on a QB...

and then you defend it by saying you think it would be a good idea to draft Sanchez in case Cassel flops...shit, we might as well spend our 1st and 2nd every year on QB's...eventually one will pan out!

JFC dude...for all the shit you dish out to all the "morons" and "true fans"...it's time to look in a ****ing mirror.

BS?! It was plain as day...

It happens all of the time...

"Gee, I didn't realize he was such a dumbshit until I read this thread! What a moron!"

I'm sorry you didn't pick up on my sarcasm, pseudo-intellectual! It was clear as day the dude was calling me out...he just ****ing bitched about me hijacking the thread two posts prior...I'm sorry that you think you're smarter than anyone that you can't even realize when someone else is owning you...

In fact, I get the best of you almost every time...I remember a year ago when I had everyone in the entire thread piling on you and you freaked out, posted the 'this is my last reply to this thread blah blah blah' and then put me on CPIggy because you can't handle being shown up...and it's pretty easy to show up a know-it-all when the stuff he currently "knows" is all a bunch of bullshit.

I mean, you owned yourself as soon as you took Sanchez at #3...so this one wasn't that tough.

Ah! Here's the thread where we lit up Hamas so badly he put me on ignore!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=172386?

Get over yourself.

Who else is bitching that I've ruined this mock draft other than you?

Sorry, I thought that the point of a mock draft was to take the player that you thought would be the best fit for the long term interests of the franchise.

If Cassel flops, the rebuild is even further behind, because you are stuck with a terrible QB class in 2010.

I don't see BJ Raji or Aaron Curry as players worth hedging the Cassel bet on. The fact of the matter is that if we don't draft Sanchez or Stafford, we are putting all of our eggs in the basket of a guy who didn't start a game in college, who threw 40% of the # of TDs that the starter from the previous year did (who you claim was a system quarterback, no less), and who was surrounded by the best coaching staff and best offensive talent in place in all of football, and yet still took way too many sacks, and whose production was more tied to his receivers (55% of his YAC) than any other QB in the league by far.

I'm not sold on Matt Cassel. The golden rule of the draft is that if you don't have a franchise QB, you don't pass on one. I don't think Cassel is a franchise QB. I'm not going all in with Matt Cassel.

But I guess we should trust your judgment, seeing that you said Favre was going to have a Monster year last year, thought Huard was the solution to our problems, wanted us to bring in Jeff Garcia, and that you think Brady is a system quarterback.

I'm sorry, but you are the George Costanza of quarterbacks. Every evaluation you make isn't just wrong, it's spectacularly wrong.

I guess the Cowboys were correct in passing on Joe Montana in the 1979 draft even though he was the #1 player on their board because they had Danny White.

I guess the Cowboys were wrong in hedging their bets with Aikman by drafting Steve Walsh.

I guess Matt Cassel has no future trade value

I guess we have no cap room to absorb to QB salaries

I guess that this draft is supposedly the one with elite defensive talent, and not 2010.

Of course, you know all this stuff about the draft since you admit that you don't even follow college football.

Stop aping the opinions of what you read last week and goosestepping behind a GM without any thought. I know it's a lot to expect from you, but I have a little bit of faith.

That's probably the worst thread you could ever post for someone to take you seriously:

Some of your gems:

The Chiefs winning = he put his foot in his mouth SEVERAL times...and the stupid one who sucks the penis is too stubborn to enjoy the fact the Chiefs are actually a pretty good football team.

And what was our record that year? 4-12 or 12-4? Excellent evidence.

I called playoffs from the start and I stick by it...we were a 9 win team last year with a QB that didn't fit the system, and all we did over the offseason was improve. We made it through the tough part of our schedule 3-3 and we will finish 10-6 and win the west.

LAWL

Ty Warren is a system player....Seymour is overrated

ROFL

The Chiefs have an elite defense.

Hilarious.

Whoa whoa whoa WHOA whoa whoa whoa...

I said Favre was going to have a monster year? I've been one of the BIGGEST Favre bashers on this board EVER...I've thought he was a total fraud for the last decade...I thought he'd have a good fantasy year...I thought Cotchery was going to have a good fantasy year...and in a sense, unless you were in a performance league, Favre did have a good fantasy year...at least decent for where he was drafted...

I never thought Huard was the solution to our problems...EVER.

Now lets look at my past...

I called Tony Romo before he ever took a regular season snap as a starter...said he was the next big thing...to EVERYONE...on EVERY board...I have proof. People on a different board made fun of me the game Romo filled in for Bledsoe and threw two picks right away...telling me "Hootie will be around any minute to say Romo is pro bowl bound"...he went to the Pro Bowl.

Recently, I made a bet with a member on this board named RibKing (and some numbers) that Aaron Rodgers would have a QB rating over 90 for the season...bet him a rack of ribs...I was right...that dude never showed back up.

I think Peyton Manning > Tom Brady. I think the system MADE Tom be great...he had no chance without that system...Manning is the system and would have been the system anywhere.

I think Palmer is done. He's no elite, he's nothing more than average.

I think Cassel has a good chance because he's intelligent and he showed he could "do it" last year...and he's now with a staff that believes in him and he's had the chance to be in the greatest system in football and learn.

I think Sanchez > Stafford...I think Sanchez has the "it" factor...but Pioli likes Cassel and that means Sanchez has NO CHANCE of being drafted by the Chiefs.

So **** yourself for making up false claims...All of my friends KNOW I hate Favre...he has lost so many big games and the media has let him off the hook every time until this year...and it was amazing...years of vindication for me (all of my friends are huge Packers fans...I hate Brett Favre)...

and all I ever said about Huard was he gave us the best chance to win...and I was NEVER wrong about that...

And all of that stuff was true until the LJ injury and the Favre miracle...we beat Green Bay (like we should have) and don't lose LJ and we win the West...everyone knew it...4-3 with (2-0 AFCW on the road)...the Packers game was the end of it...

After that we gave up...and it was over.

You looked like a total ****ing reerun in that thread...and you know it, and everyone knew it at the time...you were so worked up and couldn't handle it that you put me on ignore because I showed you up...it was hysterical.

When tk13 starts calling you out, you know you have problems. That dude is the most rational, unbiased person on this board.

Actually, you said that Cassel wouldn't be on any other roster in the league.

You said that Huard is better than Carson Palmer.

You said that Plummer gets a bad rap IMO...

Another Gem:

After bitching about Romo being ranked ahead of Huard in an ESPN poll, some time later you give us the following gem:

Romo is the 3rd best QB in the NFL...

Laugh all you want...I'd take Romo on the Chiefs over anyone other than Manning/Brady

Here's another one from this year:

Tony Romo = Tom Brady

Another:

Thigpen looks a whole lot better than Joe Flacco.

Another:

a few more of these games and Thiggy might turn out to be the next Romo. Thigpen and Romo are quite similar if you ask me...both have quick releases, both have good mobility, and they both have plus arms.

And you have no credibility to bitch about bets when you stated that you'd leave forever if Priest got over 20 carries and you welched like the bitch that you are.

Ok what?

I'm going to focus on Romo.

I think Romo is awesome. I really do. I think he's a top 5 QB in the NFL.

I think Carson Palmer is grossly overrated and pretty much done. That's my opinion.

I have NEVER bitched about Romo being above Huard in a poll...ever? What? Are you kidding? I love Tony Romo...I have never said I thought Huard was anything more than the Chiefs best option...which he was.

I admit, I was wrong when I said Romo = Brady.

I still would take...

Peyton Manning
GAP
GAP
GAP
GAP
Tom Brady
GAP
Tony Romo

in that order...Tony had a good year last year...he plays for a circus of a team and gets all the blame for that disaster of a season...I don't know why? His pass blocking was horrible last year and he makes so many plays with his elusiveness in the pocket it's simply amazing.

He does make bad decisions but he's still a young QB...he's the real deal.

and whenever I said (if I said) Plummer gets a bad rap, I don't even know how to reply to that...

I thought he did a pretty good job in Denver...I never thought he was an elite QB, but I never thought he was a terrible QB, either.

and I didn't (like EVERYBODY else) ever get to see Cassel play...I had to take the media at their word...and apparently he was almost cut before the season last year by the Pats...but so was Moss before he put up 23 TD's the season before...so who ****ing knows?

Cassel was borderline awful at the beginning of last year for the Pats...he really came into his own down the stretch...I have no idea if he's going to pan out or not...but Pioli thinks so...and evidently so does McDaniels...and I trust BOTH of them over you.

Seriously, these threads are almost always entertaining. Can you make a different one please?

Where the **** is DaKCMan AP at?

I was going to ask, what's the rush, but saw that you're on deck, so you'd be getting a little anxious, I guess.

There should be designated people that are willing to accept lists...the guy on deck can send a list of two guys to a few other people etc. etc. to keep the thing moving along. Just a suggestion.

I guess it doesn't matter anyways since Hamas threw the entire first round.

Give it a ****ing rest! Everyone knows you and Hamas don't get along. If you want to bitch at each other...then take it to another ****ing thread instead of flooding this one.

I'll think about it.

It's done.

It's time to move on.

And, FTR, I might have been tempted to do exactly the same, since I feel pretty much the same as Hamas on Cassel and the trade.

I like a good bitch fight, but geez, that just got boring quick.

Just the same accusation over and over.

Shouldn't you guys be discussing who our next GM should be? Hamas has already struck out Pioli after one month...Milkman doesn't agree either so they'll prove their point by taking a QB #3 and essentially spending two high picks on young QB's!!

GENIUS!!!!!

I am going to write Clark and tell them he ****ed up by not hiring the DRAFTURBATORS!

Moving along?

Holy Jesus, we've had 25 picks in less than 2 days. We've never moved anywhere near this quickly before.

And FTR, the only person pissing on this thread is you.

We're doing a mock, FFS. 2 months in advance. Who gives a flying **** who agrees with the pick? I don't give a shit, and I'm the one who sets up and runs this thing. It's ****ing hilarious that you charge Hamas with ruining the thread, and then you decide to make the entire 3rd page about you.

Please, give it a rest. If you want to start a pissing match, do it somewhere else.

Seriously. Move on.

DaKCManAP has about 12 hours to make his pick.

LMAO.

You are way too easy.

It's nice to see all the drafturbators sticking up for one another! You guys are so loyal.

If this annoys you so much, why show up in this thread?

Who is chasing whom here?

Dude....seriously. You've had your say.....go back to lurking. STFU

I might...I might not, depends.

And this is why people think you're a douchebag.

Welcome to my ignore list.

That's a shame.

Understanding that you hate the Sanchez pick, are there any other picks you dislike, or any picks you really like, Hootie?

I'm giving you a shot, here.

I wonder if Zouk will be able to pass up Freeman's measureables, given that his only options are a low-functioning reerun and a dry drunk pushing 40.

I'm really interested for that pick.

I'M MAD AS HELL!!!! AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!

how about you stick a cork in your vag and leave the thread...it was fine until you showed up....

and I'd jump for joy if we drafted Sanchez...

I really hate that pick at #19 ROFL

Any picks that you really like?

Feel free to compliment me.