You know, I'm actually starting to believe they're going with one of the OT at #3

I'll wager STL get's him first, but you never know.

That said, even CarlHerm could draft a good O-lineman in round 3( I think it was?).

Slim pickings.

They'll be making a mistake to try to field an offensive line with three players from the Center over with 2 or fewer years of NFL experience.

Hell if we were going to do that we didn't need a $14,000,000 QB.

No way.

There are SO many offensive lineman in this draft that can start immediately that it's ridiculous to think the Chiefs would take a Left Tackle and convert either he or Albert to right tackle, thus having $60 million PLUS dollars wrapped up in TWO left tackles.

Ludicrous.

Mack, Unger, Caldwell, Wood, Urbick, Johnson and Luigs are just a few of the guys that will be available in rounds 2-4 that immediately upgrade the Chiefs offensive line for the next decade.

Look for the Chiefs to trade down at least once in the first round (if not twice), acquire more picks and build the line through the draft.

Right. Been reported by the Boston Globe. I came on here to post, but see you beat me to it.

That's what I keep telling myself, but...

Trading down is going to be really tough, especially this year with lack of elite talent at the top...

It doesn't matter. The Chiefs don't have to stick to the "value chart". They can just take what they can get and accumulate picks.

Honestly, I see them trading down twice, landing in the 15-23 spot for their first pick and hopefully picking up at least one second and two thirds this year. That will go a long, long way towards building a solid if not spectacular offensive line for the next decade.

Not that it matters, because they'll get it worked out, but...

STL sports radio is reporting that the league has dis-allowed the contract between the Rams and Jason Brown. Some issue with the voidable last year of the deal.

I heard that too, something like deals can't get 30% increase year over year or something.

That's insane - he's good, but DAMN!

I wouldn't sacrifice the value of my pick just to move down.
It'd have to be an insignificant number of points for me to consider it.

I would agree that probably the best option for KC is to trade down from the 3rd slot, but that is not going to be that easy to do. If anybody can do it though, I think Scott Pioli is the man. If they stay in the 3rd slot they will probably take Aaron Curry. If Cleveland wanted to trade up for Aaron Curry from the 5th slot. It would cost them their 1st plus a 2nd. We would probably have to give them a 5th round pick back to make it even. That move could give us a 1st we could use for NT B.J. Raji, Boston College and maybe a 2nd for a RT like Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma. Not trying to get into a discussion about player values, only that it would meet KCs needs to be able to trade down.

Isn't Naeole any good?

Damn, the Rams are going to a power-running scheme, huh? Spags is going to stress being tough & physical on both sides of the ball...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3969158

The St. Louis Rams finally have a full backfield after reaching a three-year contract agreement with fullback Mike Karney on Tuesday night.



Karney agreed to a three-year, $3.6 million contract that includes $1.2 million in guarantees, according to a source. The Rams have been struggling at that position since they released Madison Hedgecock in 2007. Hedgecock ended up becoming a Pro Bowl alternate for the New York Giants last season.



The signing of Karney gives St. Louis a chance to be more successful in two-back formations. The 27-year-old Karney was named to the All-Pro team in 2006 when he played for the New Orleans Saints. The Saints released him on March 5, putting one of the league's more respected fullbacks on the market. The Rams were quick to have him in for a visit.



The 5-foot-11, 258-pound Karney had 46 career starts in five seasons with the Saints. Karney will be the blocking back for Rams halfback Steven Jackson.

He's long in the tooth.
He'll be 34 by the end of next season.

When Dick Curl is teaching shop, you better be able to run like a mother****er...:D

Yep.

They are going to be much improved, IMO.

They've made some excellent moves this offseason, and I think the combination of Spagnuolo and Devaney will have them looking good again in no time.

I would have to agree as well. I like their moves, and they haven't really "broken the bank" except maybe Brown so I don't think their moves jeopardize their future either. I'm a little envious, actually.

And too bad we missed out on Spags, I still think that was one of the best hires this year.

This.

LMAOLMAO

No he was a LB playing FB

I put this information in the thread about signing a CB. Since that thread has fallen off the cliff and I'd like people to read it, I'll also post it here...

NFL history on Travis Daniels. Some of this you already knew but some of it was new for me and I thought might shed some light on what expectations might be for Daniels with the Chiefs.

Good size at 6'1", 195 lbs and a good athlete but not a speed burner. Teamed up with Corey Webster at LSU under Coach Nick Saben and formed one of the best tandems of cornerbacks in the country. At the LSU Pro Day, he ran a 4.55 and 4.57 forty but also had a 10'2" long jump and 37" vertical.

He was drafted in the 4th round by the Miami Dolphins by his former head coach from LSU, Nick Saben. His first year in the NFL was probably his best year with playing in 16 games and starting 14 of those games. That year he had 61 tackles, 13 PDs, and 1 interception. In 2005 it looked like Daniels would be one of the young players that Miami could build on, along with Channing Crowder and Ronnie Brown.

Then in 2006, Travis hurt his ankle in the preseason that caused him to miss the preseason as well as the beginning of the regular season. In game 6 he hurt his right knee. He tried wearing a knee brace but his play fell off with the previous ankle injury and knee injury and he only started 6 games and finished with 36 tackles, 1 PD and 1 interception for the season. In January, Travis had ankle surgery to repair his injured right ankle.

In 2007 the Dolphins switched head coaches. After Nick Saben left, the Dolphins went with Cam Cameron. Travis lost his starting CB job to Andre Goodman. The coaches under Cameron tried switching Daniels to a safety and he played both positions as the team needed. He had 5 starts and finished with 28 tackles, 4 PDs and 1 interception.

In the offseason the Miami Dolphins under went another change this time going with head coach Tony Sparano, GM Jeff Ireland, and VP Bill Parcells guiding the team. In April, Sparano had this to say about Travis Daniels, "Right now we're going to look at him as a corner, with the safeties we brought in. We know he has the ability to play two positions back there and on game day that's important. On game day you're looking for guys that can do more and Travis is a young player we feel can do a few things back there. He's one of those young guys we're excited about watching, but we're going to start him right now at corner". On August 20th the Dolphins traded Travis Daniels to the Cleveland Browns. This was a conditional draft pick that turned into a 7th round pick for 2009. With this late trade, Daniels was behind in learning a new defense and he sat for a while. 2008 was not a good year for Travis. He was on the Browns inactive list for week 10 and then was inactive from week 12 through week 17. He played in 7 games for the Browns but having only a total of 5 tackles. Three of these were on special teams.

As a free agent in 2009, three teams were reported to have interest in Travis Daniels, Patriots, Broncos, and Chiefs. The new head coach for Denver, Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick, New England Patriots, and and new GM Scott Pioli, Kansas City Chiefs probably saw Travis play against them several times when New England would play Miami. The Chiefs signed Travis Daniels on March 10th, 2009. Current rostered DBs for the Kansas City Chiefs are Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, Maurice Leggett, David Macklin, Ricardo Colclough, Jarrad Page, Bernard Pollard, Dajuan Morgan, and recently re-signed Jon McGraw. The Chiefs signed him because he is young at 26 years old, has experience, and he gives the Chiefs flexibility at the DB position. Hopefully Kansas City will be able to see more of what Travis played like in 2005 and not what he played like in 2008.

Maybe we should consolidate some threads?

I prefer not going through huge threads. If you consolidated, it would create a monster.

When the Chiefs signed Travis Daniels I knew a little about him but not a lot. I remembered him from his days at LSU and I followed him during the draft because I thought maybe he would be a good CB for the Chiefs to draft in later rounds. Also in 2005 he was in the news as a starter for his first year at Miami so there was some stories. After that I lost complete track of him so I was curious of what had happened to him in the last three years. I started doing research and after reading the information from probably 30 different stories, I pieced together the story of injury, coaching changes, trade, and free agency. I always have hope for a new player but it sounds like the best we might hope for right now from Travis Daniels is he might be a special teamer and be a 5th CB/safety.

I learned a lot from that post. Thanks for the effort. rep

Just say no to Loadholt.

That guy in pass protect is a sloth.

I just looked for a right tackle that was projected as a high 2nd rounder. Assuming that we could trade down and pick up 2nd round pick, who would be a good RT? The way Alabama's Andre Smith is dropping, maybe he will be there.

Andre Smith -
Well, his workout times were unspectacular. He came in at 6-foot-4 ¼, 325 pounds and ran the 40-yard dash in 5.28 and 5.33 seconds. He had a 25-inch vertical, a 7-foot, 10-inch broad jump, a 7.88-second three-cone drill and 19 bench press reps at 225 pounds. He did the short shuttle in 4.93 seconds.

To put Smith’s workout drills in perspective, he did not post a single number that would have placed him in the top performers at his position at the combine and many of his numbers were not even close to the top 10 at his position at the combine.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/11/earl...not-promising/

Add CB Ken Lucas, Carolina Panthers, to the available free agents. I don't know if the Chiefs need a leader with their defensive back group or not. If so, then possibly the Chiefs should take a look at him. He has been very productive for Seattle and Carolina and he is 30 years old. Did Patrick Surtain provide leadership last year? Are Page and Pollard the leaders now?

I wanted Ken Lucas to be picked up by Chiefs back when he signed with the Panthers as a free agent. I'm certain he is past his prime now and would only be worth it if we could sign him to favorable team weighted contract.

Good business or is this a problem going forward?

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...he_ideal_deal/

Evans's decision came down to the Patriots and the Saints, although Matt Cassel was making a push for Evans to join the former New England quarterback, Vrabel, and general manager Scott Pioli in Kansas City.

"This is one of the main reasons I respect Scott," said Evans. "He said, 'I know Bill is trying to re-sign you, and I respect Bill so much, and he's done so much for me, so I'm not going to be in play.' I know Matt Cassel was pushing hard for it. We would have loved to be with Mike and Matty. But we found a great home, and I'm excited to see how it goes."

If they're looking to upgrade the FB position...
Leonard Weaver is younger and better.

You can eliminate him:

(per rotoworld)
The player rep for free agent FB Leonard Weaver thinks his client should be paid like a tailback.

No wonder he hasn't taken many visits. Weaver offers third-down value and might help in short yardage in another system, but won't find anyone willing to pay him like Derrick Ward. Only the Eagles are showing interest currently.

I wouldn't eliminate him, I'd just sit on the situation a while.
He won't be paid like a Tailback so...
That's moot anyway.

Per 810...Chiefs have scheduled teleconference to announce a FA Signing at 4:30PM.


Any guesses? Their guess is Bobby Engram.

Are there anymore FA's that played with the Patriots last year?

I can't believe these ****ers signed Pace and are moving Albert.

Just dumb...

Tauscher

LMAO

Kevin Shaffer hopefully.

LMAO

I didn't know you were a golfer OTW.

Pioli saw all these threads about the Pats schooling Pioli so we traded for Julius Peppers.

Clark Haggans to help run Clancy's system. The Deal is Done!

Hell yeah.

Been trying like hell to get back to the single digit handicap I was when I was young.

Will probably never get there, but I'll have a hell of a lot of fun trying.

You play?

Haggans re-signed with Arizona, IIRC.

Already signed.

A teleconference is interesting. You'd think it's someone at least somewhat relevant, otherwise they wouldn't bother.

Tiger Woods PGA Tour.
:D

Kinda odd that they have a presser for a FA signing.

Not if it was a trade for Julius Peppers

That's what I said in another thread. Must be big.

Yea I bet its Bobby Engram. ****ing Chiefs

Can't imagine that they'd hold a press conference for Engram.
That's a pretty low-profile signing.

Could it be that the 17 day contract siege has finally come to an end?

Its only a "tele-conference"....done on the phone.

This isn't going to be an earth shattering player, but I'm guessing a contributor.

I hope its someone like one of the better RTs available, and if its Engram, I don't care much either way.

Hmm... I gotta find that thread to figure out how to get 810.

Just got to 810sports.com or Radiotime.com and type in 810 sports.

810whb.com listen live.

Its nothing too exciting today. They're killing time, and they're not listening to the presser live....Leeeebo is recording it.

Rep!

Damn! Probably some offensive lineman.

Pace or Holt.

I don't see anything on Espn, Nfl Network, or KKFL

Schefter's got nothing...
Hmm...

Cassel Contract.

Addendum:

Contract STILL not signed. Thank you, that is all. :)

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO:clap::clap::clap: nicely done