Just what i was thinking, how bad would Denver be screwed?



They would have to take Freeman!!! ROFL

Pioli forces the Donks to bend over so far that even The Godfather/Papa Shango says, "Daaaaaaaaamn."

So Denver is still going to have to trade up if they want Sanchez. Does this trade make our #3 pick more valuable?

Atleast I don't let my personal dislike of a team cloud rational judgment of a player.

I'd hope so.

LOL. I can't wait to see who wins the suckfest over there... Simms or Orton...

No, you let your personal dislike of an entire conference do it.

Haven't you made numerous posts about Cutler's temperment and how you don't know if a guy like that will ever be able to really lead a team and win it all?

Yeah, that doesn't look that good when you consider that the firsts are likely mid-to-late firsts and Orton is terrible.

It shows you what the league thinks of Cutler in comparison to Cassel when you look at what they went for.

The Chicago Bears pulled the big upset Thursday afternoon by acquiring Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, a source told ESPN.com.

The Broncos confirmed the move.

To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, a source said.

To complete the trade, the Broncos had to give back a third-round pick in 2009.

The Bears beat out the Redskins, Buccaneers, Lions, Titans and other teams to get land the 25-year-old Pro Bowl quarterback.

The Broncos had been asking for at least two first-round choices.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373

I don't know what he said, but I do know that Cutler couldn't lead the team he was on to win it all. The Bears are a very different team that he could lead. Unless Rex Grossman beats him out....

At least not as well as their Cutler pick was turning out. Despite the high price, I still think this deal makes the Broncos worse, so I like it.

I am jimping at the possibility of further screwing the Donks over.

A QB with 60 career TD passes is worth more than one with 21 career TD passes?

NO SHIT, REALLY?

NO ****ING SHIT MECCA???

I'm not a giant fan of it, but I still consider him at worst a top 10 QB and for a franchise that hasn't had a good QB in basically 40 years, you take that chance.

Go tell that to the people who seem to think Cassel is better than Cutler.

There's also the fact that we had a huge cap space, so they knew that worst case, we coudl still pay him the ~15 mil and not have to worry about us working out a contract too.

Yes. Detroit can't get Cutler now (I would guess) and they still need a QB. I would bet that SOMEBODY (probably more than one) is going to want to move into the third spot by the time the draft rolls around.

:eek:Holy ****balls, you have got to be kidding me.

It's been dead. They won't even fight back. It's been like that for weeks now.
These.
And these again.

"Swiiiiiiiing Lowwwwwwwwwww, Sweet Chaaaarrrriot" etc.

I like it. I like it alot.

Why is he "great"? I've been asking this question for weeks now, and still no answer!
Someone? Anyone?

Lions take Stafford
Chiefs take Sanchez

Chiefs Trade Cassel for #18 Overall + a 2nd This year or Next Year

Possible?

Those people are reeruns.

But you're acting like Cassel is worthless and won't ever have a better season than Cutler.

Cutler has a much higher chance of crashing and burning than Cassel. His attitude is a huge red flag.

It's going to be VERY interesting to see what Cutler does now that he doesn't have Mike Shanahan around. There's no question it helped him.

The Chiefs aren't going to take Sanchez, as much as I'd personally like that to happen I don't think it will.

And then I think in 3 years we'll look back and be upset about it.

John Clayton vs. the beat reporters in Chicago and Denver. Hmmmm.

We shall see.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12056941
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...040209.article

They should have done this trade yesterday it would have been funnier.

It definitely doesn't make it less valuable. We can only hope Denver is as in love w/ Sanchez as Mecca/ChiefsCountry

I want to piss all over the Donks organization. Pioli make it happen!

Great deal for Chicago. Even with Cutler's poor attitude and decision making, two mid-round firsts for a potential franchise QB is an excellent deal.

Did you have to post it twice for me and ChiefsCountry?

I'd laugh if that happened. I'd rather see us take Sanchez at 3 and then hold him or Cassel for a ransom.

If I'm the Vikings......I'm going to be doing anything to get Sanchez or Cassell off of our hands.

I think Denver would do that deal, especially since they covet Cassel.

How awesome would that be for you guys.

Basically trading a 2nd round pick for Vrabel, Sanchez, #18 Pick, and a 2nd Next Year

This is awesome...Cutler was a legitimate talent and QBOTF for the Broncos. getting the 18th and 84th pick in this draft along with Orton and another first round pick out of the top 15--most likely--in 2010 isn't enough. great day

The Vikings are reeruns they didn't even want Cutler.

Messed up the quote on the first so i deleted it.

ESPN just dropped "the deal is done."

ROFL

Look I think it's a great idea and would make me happy but I don't see it happening, Cassel is a Pioli guy who he's comfortable with.

Clayton is saying now that it's the two #1's, Orton, and a #3 for Cutler and a #5.

Hmmm.

Thought so.

First rule of sportsfan sanity - if you heard it on ESPN, you heard it wrong.

I'm confused, Clayton is saying on ESPN the clincher was the 3rd rounder Denver got. I thought the 3rd rounder was a conditional pick for Chicago? Who gets the 3rd rounder?

Who is Jake going to throw to?

I bet the Bears are on the phone calling about Chad Johnson, or ringing Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt

I understand what you are saying, but I'm just saying that that scenario would probably be the best outcome for the Chiefs. Thats only if Denver would give up the #18 and another pick for him though.

Then you guys could draft a Defensive guy too.

In other news, John Clayton is still the ugliest human being in existence.

I still think Chicago makes out better, there is no value on the QB position and Cutler hasn't remotely scratched his upside.

The Sun-Times said that from the beginning.

Hey it'd make my damn day, but I don't see it happening.

He's had four years to begin scratching. Perhaps he needs an extra long luffa?

Exactly.

People forget he's only been in the league for 3 years, and a full time starter for 2.

:LOL:

You're a moron. What part of DRUNK DIABETIC don't you understand? With a shitty personal attitude on top of it. What the **** difference does it make how good his arm is when it takes him three times longer to heal than everybody else? And who the hell is he going to throw to? Double cover Hester and the Bears are done.

Seriously, why do you think McDaniels made it his first order of business to jettison this guy?

We're reconvene after this season and see who was right about this. I hope it's you. But I just don't see it.

But this has nothing to do with my hatred of Denver.

He looks like Tweety Bird as an old man.

He looks like Al Davis ****ed a box turtle.

Math is your friend.

5 games in 2006. Rookie year.

Starter in 2007, 2008.

Denver gets the third-rounder. Clayton was wrong... again.

Go back to that ESPN page you read - they've corrected it.

He's been a full time starter for 2 years.....as OTW pointed out...

If his defense was even remotely good no one would be sitting here going "he doesn't win games"

Its what all of the Parcell tree guys do.

fuck that noise. It's no friend of mine.

You're being so overdramatic on Cutler, he's diabetic so what? And where are you getting that he's a drunk from?

Stop parading around like you are the benchmark for NFL fan intelligence.

The problem you have is that you think people are actually comparing Cassel to Cutler's talent. It's a no-brainer. Cutler in a landslide.

Just because people don't want Jay Cutler as the QB of this team, doesn't mean they are saying Cassel has more talent.

I really don't know what we have in Cassel yet. Neither do you, but you would think with the way you carry on that the guy has failed already.

LMAO.

Me either...

Wow ........ it sure looks like the bears got raped !!!

****ler still sucks, holy shit I think the Bears GM maybe dumber then Carl and Millen. ****ler = LOSER

Blueprint, get a QB you know and are comfortable with.

No one is claiming Josh McDaniels is a bright guy here.

That seals it, it was a great freaking move for the Bears.

LOL...and it continues!

awesome.

Donger's son will have to get a new jersey now.

Mayock:

If you have a franchise QB, you have a chance to win the SB.

Without one, you have no chance.

The Bears have one, the Broncos do not.

It's always really easy to know who the dumbasses are just see what roy and como are thinking....

Last year they were.

They were also the year before.

I'll wait to call McDaniels stupid until I see what they do with the 12 and 18 and how this Bronco team shapes up.

If he takes this Bronco team to the playoffs, and gets himself a young QB in the process, no one will give a flying **** about losing Jay Cutler.

Let's hope he is damn good. Next years draft is loaded at the top. Two high picks for Denver next year may not be good. Go Bears!

He might be able to sell it to the strange creatures across the street than inhabit their own garage.

They likely have never felt a fantastic nylon jersey and will most likely fashion a hippie sun-dancing ritual dress or something of the like out of it.

In that division, the Bears are almost guaranteed the top spot without playing a single game.

If they get Stafford or Sanchez then they will look really smart. They both have a higher ceiling than Cutler.

chi bears think they owe that D a superbowl trophy. Going for it all. Cutler is a pro bowlers, smart dude, vandy tough, we will see who makes out with the better deal.

I wouldn't go that far. Minnesota is good just doesn't have a QB. Green Bay has lots of young guys, we will see how they adjust to the 3-4.

Anyone got updates at the Mange? There must be a ton of people on right now, I can't get anything to load on their site.

I implied that last night and got called a bunch of names...so I warn you.

I think you get called names because you come off like a self-righteous one who sucks the penis. If Onthewarpath said it, I doubt he would have been called anything.

Goodnight!

Two #1's, a #3, and Orton...
For Cutler and a #5?
The Donks made out like bandits.

If Stafford doesn't go #1... The phone will ring.

Higher ceiling? I don't know about that. Cutler's ceiling is pretty damn high.

For everyone who is saying Cutler got way more than Cassel...remember one thing...

The Cutler trade didn't happen at the beginning of free agency, New England was desperate to get his $15M off of their cap AND most teams couldn't reasonably fit that $15M contract on their payroll like the Chiefs AND Jay Cutler, right now, has an extremely reasonable contract.

Plus, there was a huge publicized bidding war and Cutler is a perfect fit for the Bears...so it makes sense for them to overpay.