LMAO I can only assume you are joking.

Awww look.. the nooob made a funny..

I'm not exactly sure I'd trust Frank Boal.

I'll be pretty sad to see him go, but, it's probably best for the team.

Jesus ****ing Christ. :shake:

Every time I think the local sports media could not possibly be more "goober", they go and surprise me yet again.

I figured Pioli would hold out for more than a 2nd...

Ok Atlanta, we'll take your #24...you can have Gonzalez and a conditional 2011 pick...if Tony retires after next year, we'll give you a 2nd. If Tony retires in two years, you can have a 4th. If he doesn't retire after those two years, you get no pick. I'm sure there will be other stipulations having to do with performance, but you get the jist.

Atlanta obviously thinks they have a 'win now' caliber team with Matt Ryan.

Who are they going to pick at #24 that is going to help them accomplish that goal more than Tony Gonzalez?

They have that franchise QB...they can afford to take a risk on an older TE (I'd say aging, but the dude has only played better with age, so I think that's inappropriate)...

Two years of Tony Gonzalez > Brandon Pettigrew if you ask me.

Frank Boal has cleaned out his locker and is now dating Badgirl...:)

I love Pioli (by the way)...

Last season...the drafturbators were BEGGING for the Chiefs to take a 3rd for Gonzalez...not only did that not happen (to the chagrins of drafturbators everywhere)...but the Chiefs got another quarter of the season out of him...and now apparently he had more value than our armchair GM's thought...as the Falcons want him "badly" and for a 2nd round pick...yet that isn't enough for former executive of the year, Scott Pioli LMAO

Awesome. I can't wait until we turn our 33 year old franchise icon into a 1st round pick and then all of those armchair, drafturbating ChiefsPlanet.com GM's can eat their plate full of crow for wanting to sell Gonzalez off like he was a cheap whore because he was "aging" and doesn't play a valuable position.

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!!

LMAO

Pioli rules.

Well said. Not sure about a 1st rounder, but point taken.

One of the reasons we're likely getting offered higher picks now could be the dog$#it talent in this year's draft.

And talk about Pioli getting value.

We trade for a QBOTF giving up only a second while possibly getting a 2nd+ for our 33 year old TE.

I'd prefer to keep Tony but if we can get a 2nd+ at least we got a damned good deal...

I don't know. This draft seems as strong as any other. Its only weakness is that the offensive depth is huge and the defensive depth is shallow, making for a big disparity between the two sides.

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Are all Falcons fans this ****ing stupid? Yeah ok, lets send them Dorsey for some 2nds and a 5th round pick. While we're at it, lets package in a pick with Tony for that 2nd rounder! Shit lets send Cassel to Denver for a ham sandwhich and a 40 of Olde English.

They make the Tyler Thigpen diehard lovers look smart.

When it's Carl doing the dealing, you pray for a third. No one here has discounted Pioli's record or abilities, only questioned some of his choices when all of the details or big picture are not made clear.
Do you believe those of us who champion proven building methods miss Carl, or are you just so full of your own shit that you can't see the forest for the trees?
You have a big mouth for such a dumb mother****er.
Anywho, resume with your Clown-Fest. :thumb:

[quote=BryanBusby;5667835]Are all Falcons fans this ****ing stupid? Yeah ok, lets send them Dorsey for some 2nds and a 5th round pick. While we're at it, lets package in a pick with Tony for that 2nd rounder! Shit lets send Cassel to Denver for a ham sandwhich and a 40 of Olde English.

They make the Tyler Thigpen diehard lovers look smart.[/quote]

ROFL

Agreed. And its about the same here w/ those that think we will get (or expect to get) more than a 2nd for Tony. Fantasy land. Ain't gonna happen either way.

Yes a winning tude!

Loser Go CP, I love em!
:evil:

My God; it's Thigpenitis over there!

"Our offense wasn't the problem"! "Our defense blah-blah-blah".

It Is Done; Carl has infected the entire NFL.:shake:

No It was serious until we raised hell.

?Pirate?

Frank Boal's a dick.

And how many times has he actually "been in the know" in the past 26 years?

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Troll, Banned and right ass.........

LOL

Loser as usual. I am getting you banned. Enjoy.........

Dup account!

Liar and an ass
wow, surprise.........

See YOU. I AM GOD!

Loser

Nice dup...

No balls unless in your mouth. Nice go to WPI for lies and your life!

Yeah, you're about 6 days late. Everyone knows I'm DCS with a new handle, but thanks for playing!

In the meantime, enjoy this case of Turtle Wax and a copy of the "Go **** Yourself" home edition! :thumb::LOL:

You know... I can't afford this. I have 4 jerseys. 1 Tony Gonzalez, 1 Trent Green, 1 Priest Holmes, and 1 Larry Johnson.

I'm ****ing getting one that just says Mer.

If you do, you'll be traded.

Years ago, I vowed to stop buying jerseys... they're way too much and by the time I settle on a player that would be worth the investment, they're gone.

I have a 75th Anniversary Elway jersey... and barring getting a new one as a gift, that's the last one I'll have.

chinese ripoffs are cheap, or so I hear :spock:

That's why I have a Joe Delaney jersey.

I never catch crap for wearing my Len Dawson jersey.

I remember when Donnie was traded, I had his jersey and I took it out of the rotation (I can never bring myself to discard them.... even the Bono jersey)...then, I got to bring it back into circulation a couple years ago.

I am all about going young, but I think at a point, you have to have some veterans to show the younger guys the way.

I also think that the young players need time on the field to develop. Losing Gonzo takes away a ton of third down conversions. It takes away a lot of snaps from the offense because they will be sitting on the sidelines when they could have been converting a third down.

Remember, every third down conversion is at least three more snaps.

Plus, this team has been losing for so long, that they need to get that taste out of their mouth.

I understand that you don't build around a TE. However, every situation is different, and I am not sure that a low second round pick really makes up for what Gonzo gives the Chiefs on the field, even if it IS for only two more years.

And, lets face it. If the Chiefs are competetive this year, and a playoff team next year, then Gonzo will probably want to come back for a 'chance' to win a ring.

Again, I truly understand why trading him makes sense, but I think that sometimes you have to look beyond the way things look on paper.

I won't bash the Chiefs if they trade him for a second. A second is VERY good value for a 33 old TE, even one that is going to the HOF. But, I won't bash them for not trading him either.

If this does go down, I won't necessarily celebrate it. I mean, kudos to Pioli for turning Gonzalez for more than the 3rd rounder we thought we'd get for him at the trade deadline last season. But I can't say it's a great day when a team icon who's given his all game in and game out gets dealt away.....

How about "Chil-lax"......"It's Okaaaay" ?

I agree. I've been saying this for years. I love TG but he has hurt the over all offense developement for the last few years. WR specifically.

I wish him well but he needs to be traded.

We didn't use those terms in the Valley.

I wheedled a beautiful Larry Johnson All Star jersey out of a drunk man for a low price.

I hate him. I've never worn it.

Really? You don't blame the former GM/HCs for not building a better group of WRs around him?

And last.:doh!:

BS He is one of the most respected sports guys in KC. He is not a Jack Harry blowhard.

If Pioli trades Gonzo I will lose confidence in his decision making ability. Gonzo will be more valuable to our offense than anybody they can pick in the draft.

The Chiefs rejected a 2nd round pick? Wow. I guess they don't want to completely hamstring Cassel. Too bad for Tony.

We don't know what has happened and anyone that claims to know what Pioli is doing behind the scenes is BS'ing.

Wait to see what happens. I'd say with his past history and his one draft/trade he has made here warrants us being patient and that we will get the best deal. For crissakes there were calls for an investigation because we got such a good deal on the Cassel trade.

I no longer have any jerseys. I had a Priest and an LJ. My brother now has them both.

If he can do better than a 2nd round pick for a TE with 2 years left then he should be GM of the year.

I don't want to see Tony go. Losing him really hurts the offense. However, getting a second round pick for him is pretty damn good. We used a first on him and in return he gave us 85 - 90 percent of his career. A HOF career. Getting a second after all that for him isn't too bad.

As much as I would hate to see Tony go, you have to ask yourself this question.

Would you trade your second round pick for Tony Gonzales knowing he had 1 maybe 2 years in the tank? If the answer is no, then that means you would take the 2nd for Tony.

At this late stage in Tonys carreer it's about return on investment. Not one good year from a player.

I could at least stomach a second for him, a late third rounder to me was a joke.

FWIW:

According to this Pioli has REJECTED the 55 offer.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/4...cons-offer-for

Frank Boal of FOX4 in Kansas City is reporting the Kansas City Chiefs have rejected a trade offer from the Atlanta Falcons for tight end Tony Gonzalez. The offer was for the Falcons' 55th overall pick according to Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post.

*Boal rarely breaks news about the Chiefs and the rest of the mainstream media hasn't picked up on this yet so we're certainly going to continue following this story until we can get another confirmation.

Rumors have been swirling that the Chiefs were nearing a deal with someone to move Gonzalez. The basis of some of these rumors? Gonzalez cleaning out his locker.

We'll never know if the future Hall of Fame tight end was simply cleaning out his locker before the start of the Chiefs first veteran mandatory mini-camp on April 17th or if he removed his belongings with the intention that he wouldn't be back.

If the GM Scott Pioli values Gonzalez more than the Falcons' second round pick then it's unlikely any team in the NFL will match his price. The overlord of the previous Chiefs regime, Carl Peterson, reportedly pushed his asking price from a third to a second and fifth round pick at the trading deadline last year.

We can debate about Gonzalez's worth all day long but he's worth whatever any team will offer him. If the offers that came in last season (Eagles' 3rd, Giants' 6th) are any indication, Tony Gonzalez will not be traded by the Chiefs this season.

We used more than a first on Gonzo, try a 3rd round pick as well to move up to get him.

My thoughts as well.

We just spent a bloody fortune on Cassel to throw to ????? Bowe has been inconsistent, but serviceable. Beyond that, who the F do we have to throw the ball to?

If we get rid of our best receiver, he's going to get killed behind an OL that is suspect at best. If we trade Tony, we're going to have to get some serious value, or the Cassel trade, IMO, will be a yr 1 flop.

In regards to "too bad for Tony". I care for Tony, like I care for any other modern day Pro Athlete - I don't, unless they're wearing our Jersey on Game Day. They're just numbers to me these days.

:clap:

I really don't think our line will be suspect by the end of the draft. There's a good chance we're going OT at 3, and we'll probably pick up a Center in the draft as well. We very well could have an all world line by May.

I like your blind optimism. ;)

Brother, you just told me all I ever need to know about you.

Frankie say RELAX?!?!

And as we know, O-line is what puts the in fondue in True Fan panties :D

So, you're telling me that we're going to be All-World by relying on two rookie OL draft picks for the 09-10 Team?

Who is going to comprise this All-World line? Albert? I have no idea what we have with him at this point. He could be great, he could be nothing special at all. Waters? IMO, is not the player he used to be with Roaf and Shields anchoring that line. Niswanger? McIntosh? Goff? Taylor? Hmmmm

We could have a very good line without using the #3 on a tackle.

You've GOT to be kidding.

After one year, in that offense, I can't tell you how he's going to project. Like I said, he could be great, or he could be an average NFL OT.

In his defense, Joe Thomas looked a hell of a lot better as a rookie than he did as an NFL sophomore.... it happens

Oh, I'm not necessarily advocating it at all. But, it's reality at this point. And frankly, it's a better option than Curry IMO. I'm not saying we're going to light the world on fire, but I think our line will be majorly improved. So much so that LJ will rip 1200 yards + this season. It genuinely could be an all world line circa the early part of this decade in the next year or two though.

He still played better than almost anybody else on the team. Why **** with it just because you can?

Huh? WTF are u talking about? I'm not talking about getting rid of the guy or even replacing him, but I'm not even close to anointing the guy all-world either.

My point is, I have no idea how the guy is going to project after one season - and neither does anyone else.

The Don's just driving a harder bargain.

FYP, pillowbiter.

He projects better than ANYONE in the draft. He's got a year of experience, and he was damn good at that.

The #55 isn't high enough, if it was #35 Tony would be gone.

I think the fact that he came in as a rookie, got hurt, missed part of training camp, and was able to transition from playing guard in college to LT in the NFL speaks volumes about his ceiling in this league.

Nowhere to go but up for this guy barring injury or whatever.

I have always loved the fact that KC was the only team in the NFL whose best WR is a TE. I don't like that the new regime recognizes this as something that needs to change.
I think I'm going to miss Carl & Herm.

ROFLROFL

I'm a Bronco and a guest on this board, in case you didn't know. When I say I liked Carl & Herm right where they were I mean it.

It seems both our new regimes are going to ship off our best players. At least ours is only a TE. :D

KC is considering a trade on their own terms. McKid had to trade because he ****ed up. Advantage KC.

From an outsider's POV although Tony may be KC's favorite player he is not their best player.
He is an aging TE. If KC could turn Tony into a quality young player through the draft that would be the best thing he could do for them at this point. There should be no sacred cows for a new GM coming into a losing program. IMHO.

I totally agree. It's almost a move you'd expect on Madden.

He's easily the best player on the team. Not the most valuable by a long shot, but without question the best.

FYMama, ass clown.

Sadly a TE coming toward the end of his career and the punter may just be our best players. Hopefully this changes soon, at least the culture seems to be changing.

I'll bite. From an outsiders POV, who is the Chiefs best player?

And I am not in favor of keeping TG or letting him go. Either way I am fine with it.

I'm not speaking negatively of TG. Let me rephrase to say 'more valuable' instead of 'best' player.

IMO on a team that is rebuilding any young quality starter who can contribute to the reshaping of the team over the next 3-5 years is the most valuable kind of player.

So a guy like Alberts is a better player for KC today. Dorsey if he pans out. Quality starters you get in the upcoming draft.

His name is Albert. But you have a good point. Along your lines of thinking he is probably the MVP at this point.
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