Sanchez would have New York eating out of his hand. He could be Joe Namath there with him being so media friendly and how he handled LA.

I know the wind's bad, but I didn't realize it dictated things like that.

yeah i LOVE the "money hungry bitch" bitLMAO

rust if you were working in a position where when you had some experience you would make top $ and the employer moved you to a spot where when you got the experience you would be paid SIGNIFICANTLY less would you try to go somewhere that would let you work in the first position(higher pay) or just be happy you were getting paid something?

If your 15 is a solid LT, and you use the #3 on a solid lt, moving your 15 to the RT, then you just used the 3 and the only big improvement was to RT.

Alberts successful year at LT would guarantee when his contract was up you'd have to pay him like one.

The Hakeem Nicks question was for Mecca

I asked him like 3 Nicks questions and he ignored them...

I just changed my name and asked "Some people think I'm the savior. What do you say to those people?".

You draft Monroe, what hole is filled?

Unless you think that Albert didn't play at a high level, then the answer can not be LT.

I do think Percy Harvins character shit is really really overblown.

From mike B.

Have you touched Kiper's hair?

LMAO

They should be more interested in Freeman's bad character which is never talked about.

You would have to get rid of Waters for Albert's value to be even better. All he has played is on the left side of the line.

I'm pretty sure he can play RT, if they're gonna move him that has to be the spot even a RT means more than a guard in todays game with all these 3-4 teams and teams wanting pass rush on both sides.

Wow, he rates Raji higher than Sedrick Ellis form last year.

If that were the case... Waters and Goff would man the center and RG positions.. and we would only be missing a RT... but again, definitely not the most efficient use of the 3rd overall pick.

yep, but not as good as Dorsey

And diss for the Colt McCoy fans!

Said this is a "remarkably weak" QB class.

Except the "remarkably" part.

After Stafford & Sanchez it is for sure.

Ha, I may have got the last question! sweeet!

ChiefsPlanet dominated that chat.

You're right, the question was:

Fill in the blanks... a) This is a remarkably strong draft for _______________, and b) This is a very weak class of ________.

He said:

a) Tight Ends

b) Quarterbacks

You got it, and Rulon Davis at that spot would be a great pick.

To answer your question, I would have said Chase Patton :D

Our LT spot is in great shape. Let's say that Albert is as good at RT as he is at LT. Let's also say that Monroe is as good at LT as Albert. The net gain in drafting Monroe is that you have improved your RT position, and the LT spot is still in great shape.

We have the #3 pick in the draft. If we were concerned with getting a great RT, we could trade the #3 pick for any RT in the NFL and get picks in return. That RT would also not make anywhere near the money that the #3 pick in the draft will make.

Why would you burn the #3 pick in order to upgrade your RT position when you could use that same pick to trade for literally any RT in the league, more picks, and spend less money doing it? I'll tell you why. Because you think lead paint is delicious.

I agree.

YUMMM... lead!

Here is why you may do it... (DISCLAIMER: I am not advocating this)

#1 You think Albert's success was partly due to our jacked up offense that we ran last year

#2 You feel that Monroe is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade at LT

#3 You feel that Albert will be a HOF ProBowl GUARD next to Monroe and that Niswanger/Goff/Waters/etc will do fine manning the center/right of the line

#4 You seriously can't find ANY other value at the pick... you don't like Raji/Orakpo/Sanchez/Curry at all.

If they draft Monroe I am going to assume they couldn't make a trade and they really didn't like anyone else AT ALL. AND I will assume that points #1 and 2 played heavily into the decision.

the continuity argument makes sense to me. the two have played together for several years, put them at LT and LG (i'm not advocating picking him though)

if you make Albert a RT, he's leaving...it is that simple

he has already proven that he is a good LT with the potential to be probowl caliber...he is not just going to accept a lower prestige and lower paid position for the rest of his career just because....

no player with his skill and commitment would, or should....


i can not believe this idea gets serious play...it is FAIL from every angle

If they take him they have to try Albert at RT before guard.

Even if you think Monroe is a more polished player, I don't think he has any more upside than Albert. Albert missing preseason and making that transition was phenomenal, no reason he shouldn't continue to improve.

The only way he doesn't is if you are a team like Carolina that doesn't seem to have any issue paying both their OT's a bunch of money.

i agree and IMO we wont be that kind of team(run first) not with haley

you can get away with that shit in college, where the coach owns your ass...in the pros the players have leverage, and they always have a contract expiring

can anyone explain to me why you think Albert will accept a demotion for the rest of his career?

i tried this with post 163 no one bit

Because none of these True Tards use logic.

Is that like when Rod Gardner was impressive his rookie year he deserved a bigger contract when his original one ran out?

Only happens IF they are convinced he is better suited at LG and isn't as good as WE at CP think he is AND they can sell him on the idea... it is possible just not probable

Because their blind, unadulterated love for the Chiefs prevents them from understanding that some people might not think their lives are complete by having an affiliation with the franchise.

what had gardner done the rest of the contract? did they move him to TE in his 2nd year?

doesn't answer my question

why would he accept a career long demotion?

he knows damn well that he's good enough to be a LT....he's already proved it....

but he's just going to say screw it and be a RT or guard because some shitty franchise asks him to?

I agree, but the way it's looking is we either overpay for a RT or we overpay for a ILB. Which is better/worse?

he would almost have to accept it.....






right up until his contract was up.

Are those the only 2 players in this draft?

the ilb, of course

if you pick monroe, Albert is gone...that pick is wasted...


picking monroe is NOT an option

of course he would, but the point is that he is gonzo....

he's not going to be guard for the Chiefs just because fans thinks it is neato

If he plays best at OG you play him at OG. If you can get a better LT, especially a year with bad value you get the better LT. You don't pass on Willie Roaf because you have Steve Hutchinson lined up at LT and hes doing fine.

Players come and go, its the NFL and its a business. I'll build a roster with guys willing to take minor pay cuts to make the team better instead of selfish guys wanting every penny they can get.

go read my earlier post, would YOU do it?

THAT is the assumption around here...

...if he can be shown otherwise, than I can see him accepting a ProBowl guard's contract.

The party line around here is that he is a saviour at LT (which may be true) but if he knows better and the coaches know better... then it isn't such a stretch.

Again... I don't believe it... but you can't dismiss it out of hand as if you know better. No one does...

do you think in his mind he's not capable of being a GREAT LT?

good grief...this pointless


a LT is selfish for wanting to be a LT?


people are in some kind of deep ****ing denial

"if LT's won't play guard for the Chiefs, they're selfish...."

I know you're playing devil's advocate, but there are enough people on this site that know enough about football that if Albert's "solid" season were due to smoke and mirrors, we'd know all about it.

uh, yes we do

he's a LT

is you ask him what he is, he is not going to say, "i'm a guard playing LT but I hope to be a guard again some day"....

this literal fantasy on this thread...he'll be a LT for the Chiefs or he'll be a LT for someone else and still no one can tell me why in the hell he would do otherwise?

That is the point, we have no idea... and we have no idea what our new coaches think... Or the rest of the league, etc etc...

Just saying that I am not gonna jump on someone for throwing a legitimate possibility out there (not one I am advocating mind you, but it is POSSIBLE)

If our new coaches dump Albert in favor of someone else, it's because they're hopelessly attached to their "own" guys (ie. Cassel) or they just have to get rid of Herm's GOOD picks any way they can.

Dumb.

You're not making the team better by moving Albert.

Albert is better than every LT in this draft.

if in HIS mind he's not capable we shouldnt have picked him AT ALL, you have to KNOW you are the man IMO

Look the only way picking Monroe remotely makes sense is if the team has all of these things lined up..

They are committed to keeping both of them and paying 2 OT's alot of money down the line, that's the only way it works. If they think there's not gonna be a cap then it doesn't become as much of an issue...

ROFL

OK homer.

I would take a small pay cut if it helped me reach the Super Bowl. Not every player wants to break the bank, especially if they are team players like Albert.

Even if you disagree with that, every team had last year had Albert on their boards as a OT.

If the Chiefs draft Monroe they have to be committed to paying 2 Tackles a ton of money or Albert won't be here when his 1st contract is up.

Um the 2nd contract is where you get paid....no one in their right mind would take significantly less on the contract where you make your money.

Honestly if they move him out of LT their only hope of keeping him is the franchise tag.

Worst case that could happen, but I really doubt it. Some players like staying with the same team and will take less money than what they would if they hit the open market. But that god for the Franchise tag.

You need to be realistic, a 27 year old player coming out of his 1st contract is not going to take significantly less money...that doesn't make him an ass that makes him smart.

He can be the ultimate team player but that doesn't mean he wants to be slighted in the amount of money he makes.

I'm sure a lot of OG's and RT's could make the argument they should be paid like a LT. Honestly I don't even care if hes paid like a LT unless its the highest paid LT in the NFL, but hes not going do ask for that.

i remember when John Tait took less money to stay a RT in KC....




wait, no i don't....he left for the big money, LT contract...like anyone would

but a LT will gladly be a RT for the rest of his career, and make less money, and garner less prestige, because KC fans say so....

The problem with it is, he played LT and was graded out as being able to do it when the draft happened...

He has leverage in this position because he can go "on the open market a team will pay me and play me as their LT, you gonna match that money?"

Simply put the Chiefs can keep both of them with one of them at RT we'll just have 2 LT contracts on the books, if you commit yourself to that are fine with it and budget it that way, fine.

They just better be prepared to do that if they're going to take another OT.

$$ for two premier T's looks fine now, since we don't have an elite QB or DE to pay for. Or a WR, or a pass rushing LB, or a...

why do you think he'll accept being a RT under any circumstances, when he's already proven he's a LT?

i've asked this 12 different ways and no one will answer....

paying 2 players on your OL like starting LTs is so obviously stu.....eh....


what's the point


this is zombie idea....it will never go away

Most guys don't care aslong as they feel they are compensated properly, if he's paid like a LT I doubt he'll be bitching.

And other than that there's always the franchise tag.

Simply put the Chiefs take Monroe they better be committed to paying both of them.

It's honestly not any worse than paying a ILB what Curry would get at the pick...there are no great options with staying with the pick.

You're wrong...Albert has shown that he can be an elite LT. After his first contract is up, he will demand LT money. If you say "We can't justify paying you like a LT, b/c you play RT". He'll say, "Then put me at LT, I proved I can play LT in this league" Then you say, "We can't, we already have a LT". He'll say, "Then I'll go somewhere else and play LT".

The money is a big difference. Not a little one. You are not going to give up millions of dollars just b/c someone tells you to.

You seem to think, just b/c he seems to be a good, smart, likable guy, that he'll stay here. Stop feeding you're own delusion. I'm sure John Tait was a nice guy too...

He'll stay and play RT aslong as you pay him like he expects to be paid...it's not the position thing that is a huge deal to the player it's the money.

If you tell him you'll pay him LT money at RT then he's likely to stay...like I said if they take another tackle they better be committed to paying alot of money for that position.

it's way worse....we're canceling out a pick with monroe....

i look forward to the day when KC tells Albert he's a career RT and he should just get over it....would love to be in the room for that