Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720600)

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720596)

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720600)

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5720599)

Could you go back and change the parameters to "true fan" good sir? :evil:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720604)

We here at the new improved CP don't like statistical analysis.

I'll contact Pioli tomorrow and let you know what kind of evidence we will be accepting.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720596)

Here's all 159 posts out of almost 20,000 where the word "idiot" is used in one of my posts. These posts also include where the word "idiot" is used in posts I quoted.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277509

You have to go back to the middle of March to find a post where I called someone an idiot.

But hey, almost every thread, right?

Here's all 48 posts out of 20,000 where I've used the word "moron" in my posts, or quoted a post that included the word "moron."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277514

So, in summary:

Even if every post referenced above included me calling someone a moron or an idiot, which they don't, to your disappointment, they would total a whopping 1% of all my posts on ChiefsPlanet.

Virtually every thread.

1%

Interesting.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5720603)

Holy shit!

LMAO

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5720608)

I agree with Hootie, I read through a lot of these draft threads to try to glean information and there is no question that there are people who are being assholes just for the sake of being assholes. Christ, not everyone has the time to watch every ****ing college football game and youtube video in order to analyze a guy's "footwork", some of us work long hours and have families, homes and other interests/hobbies.

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5720608)

I agree with Hootie, I read through a lot of these draft threads to try to glean information and there is no question that there are people who are being assholes just for the sake of being assholes. Christ, not everyone has the time to watch every ****ing college football game and youtube video in order to analyze a guy's "footwork", some of us work long hours and have families, homes and other interests/hobbies.

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5720608)

I agree with Hootie, I read through a lot of these draft threads to try to glean information and there is no question that there are people who are being assholes just for the sake of being assholes. Christ, not everyone has the time to watch every ****ing college football game and youtube video in order to analyze a guy's "footwork", some of us work long hours and have families, homes and other interests/hobbies.

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5720608)

I agree with Hootie, I read through a lot of these draft threads to try to glean information and there is no question that there are people who are being assholes just for the sake of being assholes. Christ, not everyone has the time to watch every ****ing college football game and youtube video in order to analyze a guy's "footwork", some of us work long hours and have families, homes and other interests/hobbies.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720627)

P.S. An example of a perfect football poster on this board is tk13.

He knows his shit, and he never takes any shots at anyone who doesn't agree with his takes.

Of course, he doesn't post that much anymore, and I assume it's because there's no room for any football takes with the four geniouses patrolling every thread.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5720617)

Personally, I don't see that as the issue.

There are some people in this forum that spend a lot of their time watching, analyzing and scouting college players. Not one of these people consider themselves "Professional Scouts". They do it because it makes them happy, just as many people spend countless hours playing fantasy baseball and get into those statistics are into it. They're just into it.

The problem is that when people that have done nothing other than drink beer and watch a few football games come into contact with those people that have researched. It becomes a pissing match because those who don't follow it closely feel that they know just as much as those that are very thorough. And it's frustrating for both sides.

If those people that don't watch college football closely would either begin watching it more closely OR at least listen to those that do, there would be far less name-calling.

But then again, it wouldn't be Chiefsplanet.

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5720639)

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720618)

There's no question that many of the draft discussions degenerate into pissing matches, but this is true of most threads on this forum.

What most are overlooking is what is the first mover in most instances. It's very rare for someone to come in with a genuine question or counter-argument (something more substantive than "Trust Pioli") and get shouted down.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720627)

Of course, he doesn't post that much anymore, and I assume it's because there's no room for any football takes with the four geniouses patrolling every thread.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720641)

Go **** yourself.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5720617)

The problem is that when people that have done nothing other than drink beer and watch a few football games

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5720608)

I agree with Hootie, I read through a lot of these draft threads to try to glean information and there is no question that there are people who are being assholes just for the sake of being assholes. Christ, not everyone has the time to watch every ****ing college football game and youtube video in order to analyze a guy's "footwork", some of us work long hours and have families, homes and other interests/hobbies.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720640)

I haven't missed a Chiefs game (not counting the Friday night game in Miami a few years back) in a long, long, long ****ing time.

Just because I don't watch college football doesn't mean I'm not totally pumped for the draft, and doesn't mean I don't read all of the "experts" and watch the draft in its entirety (which I did)...

So that means I have to sit back and listen to you, Mecca, OTWP and Hamas piss all over Pioli and my favorite team while I'm trying to keep up with other Chiefs fans in the draft thread?

**** that.

You guys were being pricks, so I was being a prick back. Deal with it. I guarantee you guys ruined the moods of 80% of the people trying to enjoy themselves for one of the greatest pro football events of the year...I know I was TOTALLY stoked entering the day and after the first pick and blah blah blah I had to deal with you ****tards talking about how amazing Atlanta is and how stupid we are and how much dick Clark Hunt has in his mouth etc...

So don't use your 'omg we research and this is our hobby' bullshit on me...just because I don't watch college football doesn't mean I look forward to the draft any less than you self-proclaimed geniouses (who apparently don't know nearly as much as you think, judging by the fact Mecca was wrong about 99% of the time in the draft thread).

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720648)

Oh, shut the **** up.

If someone goes against the four geniouses, or the overall consensus, they get hammered for it...and it's usually these four geniouses teaming up together and leading the way.

This draft weekend was a disaster on this site and it was THEIR fault.

Plain and simple.

They can argue all the want...these draft geniouses ruined the entire mood of the site...it wasn't fun to be a part of, at all.

"Then you should have gone somewhere else!"

And to that I reply with...suck a dick. Maybe you four should have gone somewhere else.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720604)

We here at the new improved CP don't like statistical analysis.

I'll contact Pioli tomorrow and let you know what kind of evidence we will be accepting.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720678)

Sorry that my 22 posts -out of over 5,300 in that thread - which interestingly enough all came after 3:00 on SUNDAY afternoon - ruined your entire weekend.

You have an issue with Hamas or Mecca? Fine.

Lumping me in this is making you look foolish, as others have pointed out, and you keep validating with every post.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5720660)

Hamas really knows how to piss people off. :)

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 5720692)

If you like what he has done with the draft threads you should see him in action with a bag of dog shit.

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5720685)

Awwww...we wizzed in Hooties Cheerios.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5720696)

I wouldn't say I like it, but the man does know how to troll.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5720696)

I wouldn't say I like it, but the man does know how to troll.

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5720649)

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720678)

Sorry that my 22 posts -out of over 5,300 in that thread - which interestingly enough all came after 3:00 on SUNDAY afternoon - ruined your entire weekend.

You have an issue with Hamas or Mecca? Fine.

Lumping me in this is making you look foolish, as others have pointed out, and you keep validating that opinion with every post.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5719663)

ROFL

Comical.

Not only have I never uttered the words in the thread title, I never once said that Magee doesn't belong on a NFL roster.

However, IMO (which is the entire point of this place last I checked - people voicing opinions) Jackson will not play to the level of his draft position, which would be equal to or better than Richard Seymour. Apparently Pioli agrees, as several posters have claimed Pioli said he doesn't see Jackson as a Seymour type.

Regarding Magee, I do feel it was a wasted pick - especially when guys like Michael Johnson, Antoine Caldwell, Kraig Urbik, Brandon Tate and Jason Williams were still on the board.

I've posted what I would have done several times, with no response. Not a single person willing to make an argument other than "Pioli is a GM, you're not."

I'll give it one more shot:

1) BJ Raji
3) Jarron Gilbert
4) Lawrence Sidbury
5) Jamon Meridith
6) Matt Slauson
7) AQ Shipley
7) Dannell Ellerbe

That gives us a NT, 5 technique, pass rusher, starting RT, developmental depth at guard, a possible starter at center and a developmental ILB that according to all scouting reports has a very good chance of being a solid starter in this league. And we keep our 2010 7th round pick.

Hell, even if you want to argue that Raji has character issues, put any other player at #3 overall, and keep the rest of my draft. There's value at every pick, and every pick fills a desperate need.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5719974)

Really?

Please find that post.

As I recall, I called him out for saying back in February that Sanchez should have stayed in school, then saying 2 months later that Denver should trade the farm for him, and that he's the #1 QB on his board.

But hey, you're good at making shit up as you go along - like thread titles that state I said things I've never said.

But please, keep stalking me. I'm flattered.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5719996)

Once again, feel free to post where I said anything of the sort.

I've never once said that Jackson would be a bust.

I did say that Jackson (or any other 5-technique) isn't worth the 3rd overall pick, IMO.

I've never once said that Magee was "non-roster worthy." or anything resembling that comment.

I did say that he was a wasted pick, because we never would have taken him had we not tried to force a square peg into a round hole and change defensive schemes. Using your 1st two picks on DL tells me and anyone with a brain that the new regime doesn't think much of our 2008 1st round pick, or our 2007 2nd round pick -as they would play the exact same position in the new scheme.

But please, continue. You have about as good a grasp on facts as you do with the concept of the draft.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720596)

Here's all 159 posts out of almost 20,000 where the word "idiot" is used in one of my posts. These posts also include where the word "idiot" is used in posts I quoted.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277509

You have to go back to the middle of March to find a post where I called someone an idiot.

But hey, almost every thread, right?

Here's all 48 posts out of 20,000 where I've used the word "moron" in my posts, or quoted a post that included the word "moron."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277514

So, in summary:

Even if every post referenced above included me calling someone a moron or an idiot, which they don't, to your disappointment, they would total a whopping 1% of all my posts on ChiefsPlanet.

Virtually every thread.

1%

Interesting.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720678)

Sorry that my 22 posts -out of over 5,300 in that thread - which interestingly enough all came after 3:00 on SUNDAY afternoon - ruined your entire weekend.

You have an issue with Hamas or Mecca? Fine.

Lumping me in this is making you look foolish, as others have pointed out, and you keep validating that opinion with every post.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5720715)

ROFL

He made the thread about you and you posted in the draft thread 22 times?

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720703)

you don't count...even though you suck up to these guys, I'm 99% certain they don't acknowledge you just like the rest of us, so even I won't put you on them...that would just be a dick move on my part

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5720683)

The draft bickering and fighting ruined the board, at least for me. I no longer see a reason to post here.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720717)

Amazing that the thread starter has ignored every one of the above posts.

I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the fact that they annihilate his argument, and make him look ridiculous...

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5720729)

The reps and friend status is QUITE enough.

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5720730)

My last post in this thread.

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

oh bullshit, he attacks somebody in virtually every thread he posts in with some kind of nonsense. True Fan, idiot, Moran,If you knew anything about football etc.

OTW is a complete prick and he enjoys being a complete prick, that's why dane and him get along so well.

Originally Posted by OTW58

Here's all 159 posts out of almost 20,000 where the word "idiot" is used in one of my posts. These posts also include where the word "idiot" is used in posts I quoted.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277509

You have to go back to the middle of March to find a post where I called someone an idiot.

But hey, almost every thread, right?

Here's all 48 posts out of 20,000 where I've used the word "moron" in my posts, or quoted a post that included the word "moron."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=277514

So, in summary:

Even if every post referenced above included me calling someone a moron or an idiot, which they don't, to your disappointment, they would total a whopping 1% of all my posts on ChiefsPlanet.

Virtually every thread.

1%

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5720710)

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720627)

P.S. An example of a perfect football poster on this board is tk13.

He knows his shit, and he never takes any shots at anyone who doesn't agree with his takes.

Of course, he doesn't post that much anymore, and I assume it's because there's no room for any football takes with the four geniouses patrolling every thread.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720757)

I would like to invite all the people who find themselves hurt over this, or any other thread, to come here and give me a hug.













A mouth hug for DeezNutz, of course, but a hug nonetheless.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5720763)

tk is one of the best posters on this board and he made a post last night and Hamas responded to him by calling him an asshole even though tk13 wasn't even responding to him

I like hamas but this is probably why tk doesn't come around much anymore

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720775)

tk13's post: "You are being difficult. As usual. Show me a mock from a couple months ago that had Jackson going to the Chiefs. Nobody evaluated Jackson as high as the Chiefs did until they found out Pioli had evaluated him that way."

To which Hamas said:
"I never made that argument you ****ing passive aggressive jackass.

I was responding to this erroneous gem:

But it's very difficult to predict what Pioli, Parcells, or Belichick is going to do. Nobody thought they'd take Chung with their first pick, etc. I think that's going to be a trend as long as Pioli is here

If it were so difficult, people wouldn't have correctly predicted the past two picks of Scott Pioli teams, especially since things were on "lockdown" at Arrowhead."

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...206726&page=13

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5720788)

You think that warranted being called a passive aggressive jackass?

And I was wrong he was responding to him he just didn't quote him. My bad

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 5720751)

Thats the rumor. :evil:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5720791)

Ripping people over their draft opinions is ridiculous since the GMs have entirely different projections. That should be the lesson from this draft. Don't tell me certain posters know more about the draft than other posters.

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5720807)

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5720798)

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5720750)

There has been a whole lot of craziness on Chiefsplanet over the past few months, but hopefully having everyone sit down and express their feelings and hug it out in this thread will help the community move forward into a brighter future.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5720795)

I probably wouldn't have responded in that way. But, depending upon how one reads the tone of tk13's post, one can see Hamas's interpretation.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5720754)

Everyone else is being unfairly lumped with Hamas. Mecca and OTWP don't really troll and insult people to the same degree.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720806)

Sam, that's ridiculous, and you know it.

Some people know more about History than others.

Some people know more about Physics than others.

Some people know more about Home Improvement than others.

Some people know more about Football than others.

And yes, some people know more about the draft than others.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5720827)

Some people need to get a life.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720825)

Well...

Mecca doesn't insult people so much, but his pessimistic attitude towards everything Chiefs related is hard to tolerate...and he's a part of EVERY Chiefs thread...he's just not the casual "negative nancy"...he turns every Chiefs thread into a ****ing drag.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5720825)

Well...

Mecca doesn't insult people so much, but his pessimistic attitude towards everything Chiefs related is hard to tolerate...and he's a part of EVERY Chiefs thread...he's just not the casual "negative nancy"...he turns every Chiefs thread into a ****ing drag.

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5720834)

You are trying to create a mecca-free future, ehh?

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5720837)

I haven't seen Mecca tonight.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5720831)

LMAO Right. They could never be journalists.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5720837)

I haven't seen Mecca tonight.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5720806)

Sam, that's ridiculous, and you know it.

Some people know more about History than others.

Some people know more about Physics than others.

Some people know more about Home Improvement than others.

Some people know more about Football than others.

And yes, some people know more about the draft than others.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5720851)

I think I am free to say but Mecca is taking some time off. I hope he doesn't mind me saying that.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5720848)

See, responses like this are why CP is no longer fun. I'm not in the journalism industry anymore and might not go back. I don't even particularly like it.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5720848)

See, responses like this are why CP is no longer fun. I'm not in the journalism industry anymore and might not go back. I don't even particularly like it.