That wasn't her fault. That place would be bad at any age.
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I know I will be wrong but not even the womens chance of being wrong?

Keep reading. I wasn't saying it was anything he did. If she's able to meet AND fall for someone else without showing signs, then she's definitely good and cold hearted.

fuck that.

How dare she even *ask* for more than 1/2 of everything. I just told my wife that if she ever leaves me after 35 years for something different, I'm keeping the house and the car.

I prevented this by asking for a wood chipper for a wedding gift from my father in law.

Damn Him. He didnt?:evil:

have you introduced the ex wife and her new boyfriend to the Springfield Pervert?

It would be a high priority of mine if I was in your shoes.

Warning: not safe for work and this is crude audio clips:

http://www.jackulator.com/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0

Ideally every generation would be a little more self assured than the previous one, but I think your numbers are about 10 years off.

It's not that 45-55 year olds don't care about things, it's just that they don't care about your things. They're established in life and probably have bigger priorities than the petty issues of stroking a male ego. 20 year olds are dreamers, but by the time you get to 30 you figure out you have to get it your damn self.

Maybe your dating attempts shouldn't be so pathetic?

How could a 50 + year old house wife meet somebody?????

psst. Guess what? They can leave the house. God Bless America.

well vengence could be yours says King Chief fan. All you have to do is contest and draw the thing out. You have nothing to lose going that direction. When it has gone long enough, she caves and you don't have to give up that much. If she wants out, she will get out with less. Stick to your guns man.

So she fools around on you and she gets all that? How does that work?

So Monk....Did you see him this morning?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/4...a0439df4c9.jpg

More likely I should hold off until I deal with the healing I need to deal with and not fall into the same pattern again.
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Her best female friend also works well. :evil:

Buy a motorcycle. Problems solved.

Look on the bright side. My dad put in 40 years on the railroad, was 18 months from retirement, and died last year at 58.

Make the best of it, and live every day like it's your last. Things could be worse.

DT

One would think you'd consider revenge ****s to be immoral.

Divorce is about 10000x harder when kids are involved.

Theres only one thing left to do, scalp her and get your shit back.

Just a hypothetical, but say she died prior to finalizing this deal. Then what?

no shit.

considering her reason for divorce is "I've met someone else," it seems you should have the advantage.

but most of my divorce knowledge comes from the movie Intolerable Cruelty, so I really don't know jack shit about that.

****ing bitches.

I'd imagine the stuff goes to the kids....

sneak into their house. stick both of their toothbrushes up your ass and take a picture of it. Mail it to them a few weeks later. Oh, and jackoff on their pillows too. Then start your life over and have a great time.

You left out.....leave the toilet seat up. Every toilet seat in the house.

walk up on them coming out of somewhere and kill them both.

:eek:

that sucks, if she's cheatin on you what's the law for that? I thought they get nothin, thats such BS that she would get the house and a car and half your pension, that's more like 90/10. I'd go ape shit

I am surprised it took 65 posts for that suggestion.

I think most states are no fault states. He doesn't get a complain about her cheating and she doesn't get to complain about dirty dishes or wet towels or whatever the hell her issue was.

Only time behavior matters in a divorce proceeding in a no fault state is when there are children involved.

you should at least get the monetary value for 1/2 the house and 1/2 the car...if they are both paid for.

This is correct. If you're not getting that, you're not being treated fairly.

oh. This is why I would never get married. Nowadays, I think it's stupid just based on the numbers. You risk all that on a coin flip, better off going to a casino and putting all your funds and savings on red or black. Not him though, 35 years ago I'm sure the divorce rate wasn't nearly 50%

I cannot attest to having gone thru this after 35 yrs of marriage and at 58 yrs old but I did go thru it after 10 yrs marriage. My advice is quite simple:

1) Get a tough as nails female lawyer to reduce the 50% if possible.
2) Keep it amiable (as much as possible) and be above the fray
3) Remember that the best can be ahead of you. Always!!!
4) Let your future actions piss her off beyond all compare. Be successful, grow as a man, travel, do things that you always wanted to do, give your offspring all of the attention that you can give.
5) And, never - ever, talk bad about the Bitch to your children. They will make up their own minds about what has transpired.

I did this and recently ran into my ex 17 years following our split, she kept apologizing about what she caused and was extremely jealous of how my life and how my relationship with our children has prospered. The meeting verified that I had done the right thing and that she screwed up her life. I am now living the dream and hope that I can squeeze another 20-30 years of existance out of this planet.

What sucks is that I'm guessing he lost everything because she was a stay at homer that "couldn't support herself" after the marriage was dissolved.

So she gets rewarded for shitting on the reward she got her whole married life.

I don't think there's anything wrong with getting half of what they accumulated as a married couple. Stay at home moms can work very hard, not saying they all do. But if she wants out, she should have to buy him out.

I would agree.

I gave my ex everything except my personal posessions and the kids. Only things that mattered. Big screens, and kegerators will keep him happy in hell.

Sounds like she'd make a fine whore. Under the right circumstances, that can pay well.

He still paid for everything. Being a stay at home mom is not a right! A lot of moms work hard full time to bring home money along with the husband these days. It is a luxury he provided her!! He should get everything, cheating bitch nothing.

If a woman stays home to raise your kids and tend to your home so you can have a career and provide, they're entitled to something, because they've definitely contributed.

I don't know that I agree with the idea that a woman should be kept at the same level of living their accustomed to though. Being with that husband can have financial rewards, but I don't know that he should have to keep her in furs and diamonds and a shopping allowance...

Near as I can tell the dude she left him for is HIS LAWYER.

Seriously though, it always pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Best of luck bro.

ok, spoke to a lawyer friend who handles divorce cases....

His advice is essential the same as mine BUT he made one other important point...

GET A SWORN INVENTORY OF ALL POSSESIONS AND GET EVERYTHING APPRAISED. HAVE HER DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND YOU DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND TURN THEM OVER AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. (very important)

He recommends getting your own appraiser to appraise the house, if she doesn't get a seperate appraisal then whatever your guy says will stand.

get a valuation on EVERYTHING, down to the penny.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't let them convince you to take the "easy" way out... this is something you will live with for the rest of your life.

He paid for everything, and she made him, presumably, a nice home for he and his children to come home to. It isn't valueless, as you seem to think, and no court in the country is going to see it the way you do.

Sorry to hear about this, Monk. This has been one of the best threads on here lately. I hope I never have to face this situation, but some of the advice(esp Austin's) has been worthy of filing away, just in case.
And Iowanian is cracking me up like he used to when I first visited the Planet.
Hope everything gets settled fairly for you, Monk.

"when I go to a restaurant, I'm accustomed to eating. When I get up and leave, they don't owe me a steak." [/chris rock]

I be expectin some PUSSY PAYMENTS!
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ALMOST FORGOT!

He also mentioned that you need to seperate out anything you owned or earned (pension, etc) BEFORE being married... that is yours and not subject to being split. PERIOD.

fyp

Dang all I can say is I hope her legs grow together!

Thanks Austin Chief I have a meeting with my lawery tommorrow. With everything you have posted I am really prepared. Again Thank You more than you will ever know

Agreed. :shake:

Remove all the toilet seats and take the TP.

Go buy a powerball ticket and if you win wait till everything is finalize to announce it...

Quiet, the adults are talking.

Damn dude, so sorry to hear this. It really sucks, and hurts BAD, I went tru almost the same thing 2 years ago. Had been married 12+ years, 4 kids and a good life. Came home from the hospital after a heart attack, and 3 weeks later she splits to live with her "boyfriend". Never saw it coming, but can look back and see the signs now.

I'll keep you in my prayers.

Monk, how much do you charge for violins?

The way men get raped in divorces in this country is absolutely appalling.

Damn sour news my friend ... I don't know why the law allows women to take everything a man works for ... It isn't right ... I hate to say it but most women are ruthless and selfish ... Hope you make out alright man ... BOOG .....

Scenario: A husband and wife work full-time and their salaries are equal. They get divorced, (neither were unfaithful to the other). Is the wife entitled to 50% of everything then?

Keep in mind that I see the point that many of u men are making. I completely agree that if someone cheats, and/or doesn't make a financial contribution they shouldn't get crap. But not every woman should be bashed. My situation reflects the above scenario, (well except for the divorced part, which I hope NEVER happens!)... but if it did, would I be entitled to a 50/50 split?

So what half of the stuff do you get??

Ahh that really sucks after reading more of the thread.. I would make them liquidate everything and then split a check down the middle..

I'd think so. In that situation, it's fair.

I had avery similar experience to yours several years back. I understand the wide range of emotions you are experiencing. All at once. You never could have convinced me this was in my best interest. But 2 years later she started having medical problems, including cancer, and she ran up some horrendous medical bills that would have bankrupted me. Then she died whch would have been another $10-12,000. Since she had taken back her maiden name, this entire burden fell on her parents instead of me. Then I found I could start drawing her social security two years earlier than I could my own. So now mine is continuing to mature. That bitch really did me one hell of a favor by doing what she did. I hope you have a similar experience.

Good Ole skip can always find the bright side.

See? Things are looking up already!

Damn, I know I shouldn't be laughing so much at Skip's post but I just can't help it.

Skip, I'm sorry for laughing....I think.

The reason guys get screwed in deals like this, is because after 35 years in a marriage where the woman doesn't work, the court assumes that she, unlike the man, probably doesn't possess any marketable skills in order to support herself. I'm not sayin' it's right, I'm just sayin' that's the way they see it.

I hope you are laughing with me. That deal couldn't have turned out better for me. The timing was perfect. I suffered for a couple of years then things turned around big time.

Happy to hear that. :) I know suffering :(

Can I burn in hell for laughing at this??
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I don't get what is funny about it. It certainly wasn't funny to me.

It's all in the delivery.

Must be. I certainly enjoyed the outcome but I didn't mean it to be funny. I hope Monk gets some positive out of his deal.

Is this Joe Pesci?
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Look on the bright side. Now you can go get a 20 y/o Russian mail away bride! Bring her to the house when you hand over the keys.

I was dating a really hot younger black chick for a while. We always joked I should send her over to pick up the kids. I always chickened out doing it tho. The ex is a good old fashioned Irish Catholic Boston racist too.
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In most states just because one spouse finds another person doesn't affect the split that much, if at all.

Welcome to "no fault divorce".

Brilliant. So when she can't get a job or support herself and becomes homeless, the state can pay to keep her fed and sheltered.

Sheer genious...

As often as not, once the woman leaves teh guy, the new boyfriend realizes that he's about to have to put up with her s**t 24/7 and decides he wants out.

I've seen it time and again. "He said he loved me, and now he won't return my calls!!"

Oy.