I don't know. I signed Matt Jones to my Madden franchise. He's got more yards than Bowe right now.

WTF are you talking about? Pollard never even touched him. That play did not show any power at all.

He's a big guy, but Bowe's game (Maybe it was more Hutard and Thigpen's game) is much more physical than is Johnson. Most of Johnson's plays are based on speed. Bowe runs through tackles.

I'd consider Andre Johnson a complete WR, there is nothing he can't do he has every tool.

ummm didnt willie lead the league in YPC at least once? for a marty team that is an accomplishment

yep all chiefs fans have drinking problems and are white trash :rolleyes:

I think he's trying to say fans in this market can relate to Jared Allen and accept his problems alot easier than they can say someone like Dale Carter when he was here.

No argument. But I think Bowe plays with more power.

Not all of them. But take a hard look at the Arrowhead parking lot next time you're tailgating. Then go to a casino and look at the people wearing Chiefs sweatshirts.

It's just a different fanbase from cities like Seattle or Miami or San Francisco.

okay I will do that-first look around at the home opener, then go to the casino to see who is wearing red-then I will compare them to fans from 3 cities with double the income bracket

good advice

Chief fans turn on players all the time for no known reason. Backups, long shot white players, and players with nicknames become fan favorites.

Ugh...nevermind.

Or because he's a ****ing dope fiend. And Matt Jones is an average WR if he was real good a team would have signed him.

I'm not sure.

What I know is that I like players who work hard.

If I have a choice between two players in the same position that both give 100% effort, but one is more talented than the other, even if he has had some off field issues, I will support the more talented player.

However, if he isn't a hard worker, or he's a cancer in the locker room, I will support the lesser talented player and hope we can find another more talented player ot replace him who isn't a slacker or a cancer.

honestly I think johnson just has an easier time getting open than bowe
which would lead towards your thinking that he isn't as physical
he doesn't have to be physical because he gets open

i agree here, EFFORT is the key, i could give two shits if he's a "good guy". put in the work and i'll be a fan

Yeah, he relies on his speed a lot more. Not saying he CANNOT be physical, it's just not as much of his game as Bowes.

because it doesn't need to be
do you think Bowe is going to continue to not get injured if he getting cracked going through the middle?

Maybe. Maybe not. He doesn't go across the middle too much. A lot of his stuff is (has been, who knows what Haley will do) on the sideline. Mostly because Tony owned the middle. Bowe is faster than TG, and TG didn't have any problems, except when he tried to save Hutard's god awful pass from being intercepted in Miami.

look man
you keep on believing what you believe
and I will know what I know

because you probably have a lot of scouting knowledge and watch a lot more games
k?

huh? did smed hijack this account?

WTF?

I never said I was a scout. I watch all the games I can. All I am saying that Bowe plays a lot more physical than Johnson does, and I think he is probably stronger. Calm down.

ROFL

I think the hate on him is after he left.. Carter was amazing for us..

*yawn*

for sure, hasty and carter. those were the days. in fact flowers and carr resemble them in build

bowe show will be in red and white