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chiefzilla1501 08-30-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6015933)
There are "historical comparisons" for First Round OGs like Wood, such as Steve Hutchinson. A First Round OG prospect is supposed to be Steve Hutchinson, or at least Ben Grubbs late. Wood isn't even close to that level. Wood doesn't have power and is a tad stiff and upright, and gets overpowered because of that.

By historical standards, Wood was, at best, a Third Rounder.

While true, it doesn't explain why Dane got a boner from watching the third round of the draft.

TFG 08-30-2009 05:06 PM

What is wrong with watching the Draft?

The Draft is the most important weekend of each and every season, where destiny is created. To win in the NFL, you need talent, health, and coaching. If you don't have talent, the other two aren't going to matter much...

Mecca 08-30-2009 05:06 PM

Watching the draft as a Chiefs fan is just infuriating.

milkman 08-30-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6015949)
What is wrong with watching the Draft?

The Draft is the most important weekend of each and every season, where destiny is created. To win in the NFL, you need talent, health, and coaching. If you don't have talent, the other two aren't going to matter much...

Wow.......:banghead:

SAUTO 08-30-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6015344)
One might notice that the 2010 NFL Draft appears to be very strong at the top of the QB board...

McCoy
Tebow
Zac Robinson
possibly Bradford


I'd take any of those over any QB from 2009, including Cassel, who was available for a high second...

STFU how many spread qbs have mad it in the nfl? and teeeebow is a fb/ chiefs planet

TFG 08-30-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6016177)
STFU how many spread qbs have mad it in the nfl? and teeeebow is a fb/ chiefs planet


There is no denying that Tebow's play in the UF offense has hurt his Draft status because of scheme, and the ridiculous number of hits he takes.

There is no way to deny that on every measure - arm, leadership, toughness, athleticism, mobility - Tebow is an awesome prospect.

The question is WHATS THE DEAL? Tebow could have come out early. Did Tebow get Urban to agree to install MORE of a PRO STYLE OFFENSE in exchange for Tebow staying????


We'll know soon enough. Tebow needs many more snaps from C and standard pocket passes to get a high NFL grade. But Tebow is an unreal prospect with a 45 yard lazer and great throwing mechanics.

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6015923)
That's because the OG situation was THAT WEAK in this 09 Draft. Urbik is in danger of getting cut in Pitt because he just sukks, not that anyone ahead of him is actually good.

I liked some of your earlier takes on line play but are you high? Pittsburgh's not going to cut a third round pick like Urbick after his first training camp. He's a smart, bright kid from Wisconsin who stays out of trouble. While he may not be ready to step in and start in Pittsburgh, he's hardly in danger of being waived. That would be asinine and the Steelers don't roll that way.

That being said, if he were to be waived, I guarantee the Lions, Rams and Chiefs put a waiver claim in on him.

But there's no way that happens.

dirk digler 08-30-2009 07:45 PM

Interesting thread. I remember on draft weekend I caught alot of flack from certain draft gurus when I was bitching up and down about the Chiefs not drafting any O-Line. Picks 2-5 should have been all O-Line as long as it wasn't a huge reach. But hey what do I know.

TFG 08-30-2009 07:52 PM

"He's a smart, bright kid from Wisconsin who stays out of trouble"


Yes, but he is also stiff, slow footed, and doesn't play with the power his size suggests.

milkman 08-30-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6016571)
Interesting thread. I remember on draft weekend I caught alot of flack from certain draft gurus when I was bitching up and down about the Chiefs not drafting any O-Line. Picks 2-5 should have been all O-Line as long as it wasn't a huge reach. But hey what do I know.

I hardly doubt it was the draft gurus, since the draft gurus went into this drfat thinking it should be O-Line heavy, and that next year's draft would be a great defensive draft.

TFG 08-30-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6016571)
Interesting thread. I remember on draft weekend I caught alot of flack from certain draft gurus when I was bitching up and down about the Chiefs not drafting any O-Line. Picks 2-5 should have been all O-Line as long as it wasn't a huge reach. But hey what do I know.


It doesn't work that way. The NFL Draft gives you what it has. The pick for Cassel wouldn't have landed a really top OL (save Darryl Harris). The best two values there were Everette Brown and Ron Brace. You often go five Drafts in a row without getting the chance at a Eugene Monroe caliber OT. In this Draft, if you whiffed on Alex Mack and had no clue about Darryl Harris and somehow were dumb enough to ding C Edwin Williams for his 40, you were plumb out of luck on the interior OL. Jamon Meredith has some questions about why he wasn't the player he was as a SOPH during the past two years. The Jamon Meredith sophmore was a First Rounder. The guy last year struggled with an ankle and clashed with Spurrier.

Hence, this 09 interior class was unbelievably shallow, which is why the reaches were made. The OT class was strong at the top with decent depth, but past Oher it got much more difficult. William Beatty hasn't looked good. Britton isn't starting over sukky Pashos.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6016599)
I hardly doubt it was the draft gurus, since the draft gurus went into this drfat thinking it should be O-Line heavy, and that next year's draft would be a great defensive draft.

I seem to recall the same thing.

DeezNutz 08-30-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6016599)
I hardly doubt it was the draft gurus, since the draft gurus went into this drfat thinking it should be O-Line heavy, and that next year's draft would be a great defensive draft.

Yep.

dirk digler 08-30-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6016720)
Yep.

Just in time

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5712873)
Cassel is going to get killed111ohnoes1111

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:D

DeezNutz 08-30-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6016754)

Oh noes111

****ing 4th round, Pioli111311 lollalsararzzzl

dirk digler 08-30-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6016762)
Oh noes111

****ing 4th round, Pioli111311 lollalsararzzzl

I have to give you credit you predicted even though you didn't realize it at the time.

CB is one of our strongest positions and they bypassed a ton of OL when they picked him. Stupid stupid stupid

DeezNutz 08-30-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6016777)
I have to give you credit you predicted even though you didn't realize it at the time.

CB is one of our strongest positions and they bypassed a ton of OL when they picked him. Stupid stupid stupid

Yeah, obviously I was whipping shit on some of the overreactions. That said, if I'd known that we weren't going to touch the O-line, outside of Charlie Brown, that post would have been different.

dirk digler 08-30-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5712889)
I like how not taking OL will cause a freak out every year.

yeah because we have the worst OL in the NFL and we get our QB's killed routinely.

I will give Mecca credit though near the end of the draft thread he said he wished we would have drafted more OL. I just like messing with you Mecca.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6016791)
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yeah because we have the worst OL in the NFL and we get our QB's killed routinely.

I will give Mecca credit though near the end of the draft thread he said he wished we would have drafted more OL. I just like messing with you Mecca.

I just like the fact that Hootie looks like even more of a dumbass in the draft thread now.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:14 PM

On the 2nd day there were 3 players I wanted the Chiefs to draft...Duke Robinson, Jamon Meredith and Dannell Elerbee we see what 2 of them play...

Titty Meat 08-30-2009 09:43 PM

lol you should see the morons who negative repped me cuz I questioned Pioli.

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6017049)
lol you should see the morons who negative repped me cuz I questioned Pioli.

You?

Don't you remember draft day, when I had a complete meltdown because the Chiefs didn't draft a lineman until the 5th round and it was Colin ****ING Brown?

Gonzo 08-30-2009 09:50 PM

I personally think that we're reading too much into yesterday's performance. Thigpen is obviously not the answer but they had to give him a shot. They probably didn't want Croyle to get hurt either. This is a very young team with some talent, a new coaching staff and a new GM. We can't expect this thing to be turned around overnight. 6 wins would be a hell of a year IMO.
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DaneMcCloud 08-30-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 6017083)
I personally think that we're reading too much into yesterday's performance. Thigpen is obviously not the answer but they had to give him a shot. They probably didn't want Croyle to get hurt either. This is a very young team with some talent, a new coaching staff and a new GM. We can't expect this thing to be turned around overnight. 6 wins would be a hell of a year IMO.
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4 wins would qualify Haley for coach of the year.

The Chiefs will seriously flirt with 0-16.

Titty Meat 08-30-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6017078)
You?

Don't you remember draft day, when I had a complete meltdown because the Chiefs didn't draft a lineman until the 5th round and it was Colin ****ING Brown?

No dude I stayed far away from here on draft day.

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6017097)
No dude I stayed far away from here on draft day.

Well, don't do that next year.

Man up, ****er.

:D

Titty Meat 08-30-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6017100)
Well, don't do that next year.

Man up, ****er.

:D

lol don't you remember the harsh shit we'd say to eachother? The reason I made this thread obviously was Cassel got hurt and I really believe in the guy. I would love to see what he would do with an o-line but we won't get to see that this year anyway, and next year there will be even more holes. A NT, 3 Linebackers, WR, ect.

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6017117)
lol don't you remember the harsh shit we'd say to eachother? The reason I made this thread obviously was Cassel got hurt and I really believe in the guy. I would love to see what he would do with an o-line but we won't get to see that this year anyway, and next year there will be even more holes. A NT, 3 Linebackers, WR, ect.

Ah, it's all bullshit. Anyone that takes our football "bar talk" beyond this forum has serious mental problems. As much as many of us get crazy in this forum, attack each and whatnot, I'm betting that 99% of these dudes are a blast to hang out with.

It's just that we're all passionate Chiefs fans with varying opinions on how to right this shithole of a football team.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6017100)
Well, don't do that next year.

Man up, ****er.

:D

I think he's got the right idea; we'll never get anyone we covet from here on out I'm pretty damned sure.

KcMizzou 08-30-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6017121)
Ah, it's all bullshit. Anyone that takes our football "bar talk" beyond this forum has serious mental problems. As much as many of us get crazy in this forum, attack each and whatnot, I'm betting that 99% of these dudes are a blast to hang out with.

It's just that we're all passionate Chiefs fans with varying opinions on how to right this shithole of a football team.

This is true.

Titty Meat 08-30-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6017121)
Ah, it's all bullshit. Anyone that takes our football "bar talk" beyond this forum has serious mental problems. As much as many of us get crazy in this forum, attack each and whatnot, I'm betting that 99% of these dudes are a blast to hang out with.

It's just that we're all passionate Chiefs fans with varying opinions on how to right this shithole of a football team.

True. I played football with some guys on here before but I didn't really post much back then so I didn't have the reputation of being an asshole.


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