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dirk digler 09-20-2009 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093803)
Were we better against the run today? Hell yes. But let's not start sucking each other's dicks. This is a bad run defense, and we "stopped" it about as well as the Patriots stopped Marshall Faulk in the Super Bowl. When your coaches don't come out to establish what you do well, it's not the other team that has stopped that part from working, it's those coaches.
No one is comparing the Chiefs D to the 85 Bears or the great Steeler defenses. What we are saying is that all these dire predictions about the Raiders rushing for 300 yds were a little over done. Also as someone posted already the Raiders had almost the same pass to rush ratio as they did against the Chargers. We stopped the run we just couldn't stop Russell when it counted and that is all that really matters.

milkman 09-20-2009 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093817)
It doesn't surprise me that you're too stupid to get the point. The point is that people will do anything to look for positives here, and today it's the fact that our D was stopping the run, when the reality is that Tom Cable stopped the run.
The reality is, in spite of the poor play calling by the Raiders, when the Raiders did try to run, they had little success.

The fact that we didn't get gashed consistently even after the Raiders didn't come out running the ball on the very first series is a positive.

Now, can we biuild on that going forward?

Probably not, because we still don't have the rihgt piseces for this defnse to succeeed.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093823)
Damn, the Pats should have jettisoned that useless ass Richard Seymour years ago, cause he has only averaged about 2 tackles a game for his entire career.

What the hell were they thinking?
he had 2 sacks just last week-no practice

and your point is?

he is an all pro and does not have a 57 million dollar contract

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093838)
he had 2 sacks just last week-no practice

and your point is?

he is an all pro and does not have a 57 million dollar contract
HE IS PLAYING 4-3 DE FOR THE RAIDERS. HE HAS DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS AND EXPECTATIONS IN THAT SYSTEM THAN HE HAD WITH THE PATRIOTS.

YOU ARE SERIOUSLY DENSE.

milkman 09-20-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093829)
With all the picks we could have had-they reached with Jackson JUST like Mecca said many times on here-and now it shows.
I said the same god damn thing, that picking a 34 DE is a bad pick, and poor positional value, you dumbass.

But that doesn't in any discount the fact that he is a ****ing rookie, learning a new position in a new scheme.

It also doesn't discount the fact that he actually did his job reasonably well, given those facts.

As a 34 DE, he is never, I repeat, so your dumbass has just the slightest chance to understand, he is never going to put up big tackle numbers as a 34 DE.

3 or 4 in a game will be a huge number for his poistion.

JFC, get a ****ing clue.

dirk digler 09-20-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093837)
The reality is, in spite of the poor play calling by the Raiders, when the Raiders did try to run, they had little success.

The fact that we didn't get gashed consistently even after the Raiders didn't come out running the ball on the very first series is a positive.

Now, can we biuild on that going forward?

Probably not, because we still don't have the rihgt piseces for this defnse to succeeed.
Yep. When we face a team that runs the ball good and has a good QB then we will be able to tell if we keep improving or we just suck until we get better players.

KcMizzou 09-20-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093843)
I said the same god damn thing, that picking a 34 DE is a bad pick, and poor positional value, you dumbass.

But that doesn't in any discount the fact that he is a ****ing rookie, learning a new position in a new scheme.

It also doesn't discount the fact that he actually did his job reasonably well, given those facts.

As a 34 DE, he is never, I repeat, so your dumbass has just the slightest chance to understand, he is never going to put up big tackle numbers as a 34 DE.

3 or 4 in a game will be a huge number for his poistion.

JFC, get a ****ing clue.
Don't hold your breath.

1ChiefsDan 09-20-2009 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093817)
It doesn't surprise me that you're too stupid to get the point. The point is that people will do anything to look for positives here, and today it's the fact that our D was stopping the run, when the reality is that Tom Cable stopped the run.
Yep, always with the "you're too stupid". It is your only response and it is tired and old. Oxygen deprivation at birth is a hard thing to overcome. Good luck with that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6093836)
No one is comparing the Chiefs D to the 85 Bears or the great Steeler defenses. What we are saying is that all these dire predictions about the Raiders rushing for 300 yds were a little over done. Also as someone posted already the Raiders had almost the same pass to rush ratio as they did against the Chargers. We stopped the run we just couldn't stop Russell when it counted and that is all that really matters.
No one is arguing that the 300 yard predictions were correct, or that they weren't rooted in some hyperbole just for the **** of trolling.

TheGuardian 09-20-2009 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093843)
I said the same god damn thing, that picking a 34 DE is a bad pick, and poor positional value, you dumbass.

But that doesn't in any discount the fact that he is a ****ing rookie, learning a new position in a new scheme.

It also doesn't discount the fact that he actually did his job reasonably well, given those facts.

As a 34 DE, he is never, I repeat, so your dumbass has just the slightest chance to understand, he is never going to put up big tackle numbers as a 34 DE.

3 or 4 in a game will be a huge number for his poistion.

JFC, get a ****ing clue.
Exactly. Dorsey played a WHALE of a game today and had 4 tackles I think? But he stuffed the run lanes down on his side and made that really heady stoppage of a screen that had all sorts of green in front of it if he doesn't make that play.

Dorsey already look like a different player than last year, and Jackson probably has a higher ceiling than Dorsey in this defense. People bitching about him after two games because he doesn't have high tackle numbers aren't worth wasting your breath on MM.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093843)
I said the same god damn thing, that picking a 34 DE is a bad pick, and poor positional value, you dumbass.

But that doesn't in any discount the fact that he is a ****ing rookie, learning a new position in a new scheme.

It also doesn't discount the fact that he actually did his job reasonably well, given those facts.

As a 34 DE, he is never, I repeat, so your dumbass has just the slightest chance to understand, he is never going to put up big tackle numbers as a 34 DE.

3 or 4 in a game will be a huge number for his poistion.

JFC, get a ****ing clue.
So how in **** did he do his job resonably well again??? Jafatass had all day to throw today. I was at the game and specifically tried to watch our new #3. He didnt do much at all. Rookie or not. What the **** did he do last week besides not having one single tackle??? Flacco could have balanced his checkbook and they gashed the shit out of us on the run.


You are arguing that he is doing good when he has 1 damm tackle in two losses. 31 million dollar check in the bank and 1 tackle to his stats. You are just being a dick for the sake of being a dick right now.

kstater 09-20-2009 06:18 PM
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Titty Meat 09-20-2009 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6093673)
Don't lump Hamas with Billay.

While Hamas might have some differing opinions, he's not dumb.
Sucking his dick won't earn you any points. Now go back to square dancing cornfed.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6093865)
,
ROFLROFLROFL

wow havnt seen tht dipshit on here for awhile

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6093669)
Wow. So 2 games in and Tyson Jackson is already a bust.

Just when you think some of the people on this board can't get any more reeruned.

And Hamas and Billay are the two dumbest MF'ers on this site. End of discussion.
It isn't too late for you to join the rest of Heavens Gate moron.

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093873)
ROFLROFLROFL

wow havnt seen tht dipshit on here for awhile
You haven't seen that dipshit Hamas on here for awhile?

Halfcan 09-20-2009 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6093691)
So? You're basing your whole basis on stats ALONE. That doesn't really tell you anything about how good or bad Jackson played in this style of defense does it? No. But you don't seem to understand that.
No I am baseing it on watching him play today.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093882)
You haven't seen that dipshit Hamas on here for awhile?
Matrix is Hamas??

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093917)
Matrix is Hamas??
The aids has him all dellusional

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093917)
Matrix is Hamas??
Yes, but it's funny you just called Hamas a dipshit for no reason.

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6093928)
The aids has him all dellusional
Please don't act like you have a clue.

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093934)
Please don't act like you have a clue.
You're the same douchrocket who said Tim Tebow would be a good NFL Qbuarterback. Don't pretend like you are wise you just play the vitcim whenever you get called out douchey. Now go shove a broomstick up your ass.

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6093940)
You're the same douchrocket who said Tim Tebow would be a good NFL Qbuarterback. Don't pretend like you are wise you just play the vitcim whenever you get called out douchey. Now go shove a broomstick up your ass.
What the **** are you talking about? I have never once said Tim Tebow will be a good QB. Seriously, what the **** is going on in that little head of yours.

Do you say anything that is factual, or do you just make shit up in every single post?

milkman 09-20-2009 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093861)
So how in **** did he do his job resonably well again??? Jafatass had all day to throw today. I was at the game and specifically tried to watch our new #3. He didnt do much at all. Rookie or not. What the **** did he do last week besides not having one single tackle??? Flacco could have balanced his checkbook and they gashed the shit out of us on the run.


You are arguing that he is doing good when he has 1 damm tackle in two losses. 31 million dollar check in the bank and 1 tackle to his stats. You are just being a dick for the sake of being a dick right now.
Let me type this s l ow l l y, so you have at least a minimal chance at grasping this.

The DE's job in a 34 is to occupy blockers.

Understand?

Occupy blockers?

Let me try again.

The defensive end's job in the 34 is to occupy blockers.

Now Jackson is rookie, who played in a 43 in school.

See the difference?

34
43

Did that help you see the difference?

Okay, now again, he's a rookie.
That means he is his first season in the NFL.

With me?
He's not in school anymore, he's in the NFL now.

He's playing against guys who are stronger, faster, better coached than the kids he face in school.

He's learning a new position.

A position that requires him to occupy blockers.

There's these other guys on the defense.
They are called Outside Linebackers.

Still with me?

Now the defensive end (DE for short) in a 34 (remember we talked about this?) is asked to occupy blockers so that the Outside Linebackers (OLB for short) can run around and make plays, and get after the QB, in what is known as rushing the QB.

Tyson Jackson did occupy his blocker.
Sometimes, but not a lot, two of them.

Now remember, he's rookie (you remember what a rookie is, right?) so he's still learning.

As he learns, he will begin to require two blockers more often.

But even when he is at his best, he willl never make a lot of tackles, or a lot of sacks.

Did you manage to stay with me on all of this, or did you get distracted by a booger that you had to pick?

the Talking Can 09-20-2009 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093982)
Let me type this s l ow l l y, so you have at least a minimal chance at grasping this.

The DE's job in a 34 is to occupy blockers.

Understand?

Occupy blockers?

Let me try again.

The defensive end's job in the 34 is to occupy blockers.

Now Jackson is rookie, who played in a 43 in school.

See the difference?
ROFL

doomy3 09-20-2009 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093982)
Let me type this s l ow l l y, so you have at least a minimal chance at grasping this.

The DE's job in a 34 is to occupy blockers.

Understand?

Occupy blockers?

Let me try again.

The defensive end's job in the 34 is to occupy blockers.

Now Jackson is rookie, who played in a 43 in school.

See the difference?

34
43

Did that help you see the difference?

Okay, now again, he's a rookie.
That means he is his first season in the NFL.

With me?
He's not in school anymore, he's in the NFL now.

He's playing against guys who are stronger, faster, better coached than the kids he face in school.

He's learning a new position.

A position that requires him to occupy blockers.

There's these other guys on the defense.
They are called Outside Linebackers.

Still with me?

Now the defensive end (DE for short) in a 34 (remember we talked about this?) is asked to occupy blockers so that the Outside Linebackers (OLB for short) can run around and make plays, and get after the QB, in what is known as rushing the QB.

Tyson Jackson did occupy his blocker.
Sometimes, but not a lot, two of them.

Now remember, he's rookie (you remember what a rookie is, right?) so he's still learning.

As he learns, he will begin to require two blockers more often.

But even when he is at his best, he willl never make a lot of tackles, or a lot of sacks.

Did you manage to stay with me on all of this, or did you get distracted by a booger that you had to pick?
Worth repeating.

Hootie 09-20-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093570)
NOTHING WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INABILITY OF THE CHIEFS TO STOP THE RUN WHEN IT MATTERED MOST AND NOT JUST JESUS JACKSON, YOU DUMB ****!!
lmao...

one run 1st and goal when the chiefs got jobbed by a ridiculous personal foul...when the D was great all day..

dude...you're a super pseudo-intellectual...

Hootie 09-20-2009 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093583)
Jesus Christ, if Oakland wanted to run the ball, they would have. I love how Larry has 24 for 78 and he looks like "new man" or like the '05 Larry, but the Raiders, who came out passing rather than running, and constantly put themselves in 3rd and forever because of it, run for nearly the same YPC and we stonewalled them.

The fact of the matter is this:

Teams get most of their yards running on carries 20-40.
Cable ****ed his own team through dipshitted playcalling.
We never had to defend more than one or two runs per drive because of said dipshitted playcalling.

We didn't stop shit, they stopped themselves.

This is about as funny as some ****s arguing that we stopped the Ravens in '03 when they kept stepping on their dicks in goal to go situations.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL
ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Can you think of 1...or 2 runs that were over 10 yards in length?

Hahahaha...

Hamas thinks he's smarter than an NFL coach now...sweet! He should just GM/Coach a team...they'd never lose!

What a dipshit...JFC

kcpasco 09-20-2009 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093982)
Let me type this s l ow l l y, so you have at least a minimal chance at grasping this.

The DE's job in a 34 is to occupy blockers.

Understand?

Occupy blockers?

Let me try again.

The defensive end's job in the 34 is to occupy blockers.

Now Jackson is rookie, who played in a 43 in school.

See the difference?

34
43

Did that help you see the difference?

Okay, now again, he's a rookie.
That means he is his first season in the NFL.

With me?
He's not in school anymore, he's in the NFL now.

He's playing against guys who are stronger, faster, better coached than the kids he face in school.

He's learning a new position.

A position that requires him to occupy blockers.

There's these other guys on the defense.
They are called Outside Linebackers.

Still with me?

Now the defensive end (DE for short) in a 34 (remember we talked about this?) is asked to occupy blockers so that the Outside Linebackers (OLB for short) can run around and make plays, and get after the QB, in what is known as rushing the QB.

Tyson Jackson did occupy his blocker.
Sometimes, but not a lot, two of them.

Now remember, he's rookie (you remember what a rookie is, right?) so he's still learning.

As he learns, he will begin to require two blockers more often.

But even when he is at his best, he willl never make a lot of tackles, or a lot of sacks.

Did you manage to stay with me on all of this, or did you get distracted by a booger that you had to pick?
In short

Our LB's suck some serious ass

Chiefless 09-20-2009 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093530)
it is absolutely hilarious to watch billay try to pin that last run on the DL. It was a toss sweep that his boy, Mike Brown, was unblocked on and completely whiffed on the tackle. He had a chance to tackle him one on one at the line of scrimmage and was completely out of control instead of breaking down.

If you don't believe me, watch it here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...cFadden-TD-run
Hali could have completely blown that play up if he had any instints whatsoever...

Hootie 09-20-2009 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093711)
I ****ing 5 yard run means they didn't stop the run.

OK, Got it.

JFC, people can be so ****ing dishonest just attempting to prove they're right.
even milkman knows we stopped the run...

it was the penalties/offense/playcalling...

case closed

we won in every facet of the game minus dipshittery/final score

Reaper16 09-20-2009 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6094019)
even milkman knows we stopped the run...

it was the penalties/offense/playcalling...

case closed

we won in every facet of the game minus dipshittery/final score
Playcalling?

Hootie 09-20-2009 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093741)
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Those are Oakland's second half drives before their comeback drive. That's 11 carries for 43 yards, and there is only one drive (5:40, 3rd quarter) where we actually shut down their run. Any other time that they came out and ran on first and second down, they had 3rd and 4 or less.
dude, I don't care how "smart" you are...

you're a dumbshit...

you are debating against yourself...

our defense was fine...they suffered a terrible call on the last drive and then Clancy didn't call a ****ing blitz on 3rd and 15 and our secondary broke down to give them a 1st...

one drive all game that we sucked on...yeah...whatever...we gave up 13 GD points...

STFU

You sound like an idiot...I thought you were supposed to be a "genius"?

Mecca 09-20-2009 07:00 PM
Someone should make a Tamba Hali thread I'm pretty sure he was in the missing persons file today.

Hootie 09-20-2009 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan (Post 6093813)
ROFLROFLNow we are supposed to judge how well the Chiefs did based on what someone posted on a "game thread". JFC
dude..that's hamas...whatever makes his point...

he's a pessimistic reerun...just like mecca who was bashing cassel after the game (who played like a ****ing warrior if you ask me)...

they are idiots.

milkman 09-20-2009 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094038)
Someone should make a Tamba Hali thread I'm pretty sure he was in the missing persons file today.
Now this is spot on.

I asked in the chat during the game if anyone had seen Hali.

Hootie 09-20-2009 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6093865)
,
Rep.

Dip"shit" he is.

Chiefless 09-20-2009 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094046)
Now this is spot on.

I asked in the chat during the game if anyone had seen Hali.
You can see the back of his jersey as he's chasing McFadden toward the endzone AFTER he was allowed in the backfield untouched. Reminded me of Eric Hicks.

kcpasco 09-20-2009 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094038)
Someone should make a Tamba Hali thread I'm pretty sure he was in the missing persons file today.
But but but Hali plays with a ton of heart, that something you can't coach.

God I hate ****ing Herman Edwards

DaneMcCloud 09-20-2009 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094046)
Now this is spot on.

I asked in the chat during the game if anyone had seen Hali.
Hali, Corey Mays and DJ, minus the sack.

Where were these guys?

Oh, that's right.

Getting their asses pwned.

Hootie 09-20-2009 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6094024)
Playcalling?
the last drive was abysmal...we have 3 TO's...

we complete a 9 yard pass...we either call a TO right away, or run a draw for the 1st...ok we ****ed up...incomplete...

so you run on 3rd down and GET THE 1ST DOWN and then call a TO...

we **** up and take a sack...

4th down...

we **** up and sit on 2 extra TO's...

it was dumb as shit...a terribly called series that needed a draw on 2nd or 3rd down and instead we got terrible playcalls...I like Haley...he's ballsy...he has the makings of a good coach...but that was some dipshit calls on the last drive.

Hootie 09-20-2009 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094038)
Someone should make a Tamba Hali thread I'm pretty sure he was in the missing persons file today.
you don't know shit...that's all we've learned lately.

macdawg 09-20-2009 07:08 PM
I wish we could have gotten an elite pass rushing LB with the 3rd overall pick or traded down instead of getting a DE to tie up blockers.

Mecca 09-20-2009 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6094077)
you don't know shit...that's all we've learned lately.
You should discuss all the awesome plays Hali made today.

DaneMcCloud 09-20-2009 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdawg (Post 6094079)
I wish we could have gotten an elite pass rushing LB with the 3rd overall pick or traded down instead of getting a DE to tie up blockers.
Unless you're joking, I hope you know that there wasn't one available

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094038)
Someone should make a Tamba Hali thread I'm pretty sure he was in the missing persons file today.
Nah he was there. Did you see him with the play on the Mcfadden play? You'd think since he played d-end in the 4-3 and now outside linebacker he'd know how to contain the end

Mecca 09-20-2009 07:11 PM
All I'm saying is I don't see the point of a Tyson Jackson thread even if he plays perfect you'll basically never hear his name called.

These LB's are so awful that even when they're free they don't make plays, make a thread about that.

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 07:13 PM
The whole team sucks even Mike Brown was bad.

The Bad Guy 09-20-2009 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093459)
How about that toss sweep where DMC walked into the ****ing end zone, dipshit.
That's one play.

I honestly can't believe after reading Hootie's posts about how DMAC is the next AP, and how this Raider team was great at run blocking that people want to continue to rag on the run D.

I don't give a shit what Cable did. I don't care what could have happened.
The Chiefs run defense did their job today. Dorsey played a very nice game and Jackson contributed as well.

Do I think he's worth the 3rd overall pick? No way. But am I going to complain every week about his production? No. If you know anything about the 3-4, the DE's are about as unsexy as a position there is in the stat book.

The Bad Guy 09-20-2009 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094097)
All I'm saying is I don't see the point of a Tyson Jackson thread even if he plays perfect you'll basically never hear his name called.

These LB's are so awful that even when they're free they don't make plays, make a thread about that.
Vrabel was playing patti cake all day.

There's also no reason that DeMorrio Williams should continute to start over Derrick Johnson.

DaneMcCloud 09-20-2009 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6094102)
The whole team sucks even Mike Brown was bad.
Blasphemy!

Titty Meat 09-20-2009 07:16 PM
Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.

Chiefless 09-20-2009 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdawg (Post 6094079)
I wish we could have gotten an elite pass rushing LB with the 3rd overall pick or traded down instead of getting a DE to tie up blockers.
Jesus Curry was the only viable LB to take at #3. He has 8 tackles and no sacks on the year. Seems like this draft was a dud for defensive playmakers at the top of the draft. I would bet Pioli tried like a MFer to trade out of #3 to pick up Jackson later in the draft but couldn't find anyone willing to move up to pay 60mil for marginal talent...thus he took his player early. It was a sh*tty hand he was dealt IMO.

milkman 09-20-2009 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6094117)
Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.
Vrabel has played smart, but that is about the best you can say about any of the offseason acquisitions in free agency.

So far, Bobby Wade is the only player signed that played at a level that we can hope that we look back at as a good signing.

RedThat 09-20-2009 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6094117)
Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.
I think it's important to keep in mind, these veteran guys Pioli signed are here for 2 reasons:

1. the chiefs were a young team w/ no veterans. There was too much of an imbalance going on. The team had a roster full of kids, and that need to change.

2. I believe it was to patch up Carl and Herms mess. Really. I mean the roster was so devoid of talent and still is. it could make a bit of a slight difference having some of these veterans on the team rather then having some of the scrubs that were here before? The bleeding was so bad, they had to at least try and slow it down.

I still think though the draft is the best route for this team to add talent. Its gonna realistically take this team maybe 3 or 4 years to be a good team provided they draft well. Hopefully, Pioli hired some good scouts. Were gonna need them to do their homework.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6094104)
That's one play.

I honestly can't believe after reading Hootie's posts about how DMAC is the next AP, and how this Raider team was great at run blocking that people want to continue to rag on the run D.

I don't give a shit what Cable did. I don't care what could have happened.
The Chiefs run defense did their job today. Dorsey played a very nice game and Jackson contributed as well.

Do I think he's worth the 3rd overall pick? No way. But am I going to complain every week about his production? No. If you know anything about the 3-4, the DE's are about as unsexy as a position there is in the stat book.
I for one, said nothing of Jackson in this thread. I've actually defended him through the first two games, even though I believe it was a god awful use of resources given the position he plays. He's the least of our problems.

Kyle DeLexus 09-20-2009 08:08 PM
I wish I had never opened this thread.

aturnis 09-20-2009 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6094068)
Hali, Corey Mays and DJ, minus the sack.

Where were these guys?

Oh, that's right.

Getting their asses pwned.
Between:

Hali
Vrabel
Johnson
Williams
Beisel
Mays

The LB's stat line ready 7 tackles, 1 sack.

Pathetic.

doomy3 09-20-2009 08:30 PM
I missed it during the game, but who had the sack on the play that Gilberry got called for the PF Penalty?

Reaper16 09-20-2009 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6094454)
I missed it during the game, but who had the sack on the play that Gilberry got called for the PF Penalty?
The Raiders' RG.

doomy3 09-20-2009 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6094460)
The Raiders' RG.
Really?

I wondered because on the radio, they didn't announce it at all. Just said Russell was sacked, then explained that Gilberry hit him late, etc.

Reaper16 09-20-2009 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6094470)
Really?

I wondered because on the radio, they didn't announce it at all. Just said Russell was sacked, then explained that Gilberry hit him late, etc.
ESPN's boxscore has Gilberry with that sack.

RedThat 09-20-2009 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6094108)
Vrabel was playing patti cake all day.

There's also no reason that DeMorrio Williams should continute to start over Derrick Johnson.
This I do not understand.

doomy3 09-20-2009 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6094480)
ESPN's boxscore has Gilberry with that sack.
Yeah, I just looked it up after I asked the question. Thanks for the answer.

Weird that he could get a late hit penalty on a sack he got credit for...

aturnis 09-20-2009 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6094488)
This I do not understand.
I think it's been going on b/c either Johnson doesn't know his assignments, or tried to freelance too much.

Either way, if he is in the wrong spot, we get gashed. Haley's thinking must be that even though Williams isn't as gifted a player, if he does his job, he'll be better for the team.

Mecca 09-20-2009 08:40 PM
DeMorrio Williams getting as many snaps as he does pretty much makes it clear that DJ won't be back after this year.

DaneMcCloud 09-20-2009 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094514)
DeMorrio Williams getting as many snaps as he does pretty much makes it clear that DJ won't be back after this year.
DJ disappeared after the sack.

As usual.

One good play then nothing for the rest of the game.

aturnis 09-20-2009 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6094521)
DJ disappeared after the sack.

As usual.

One good play then nothing for the rest of the game.
He is only playing on third downs I believe, which were mostly passes.

doomy3 09-20-2009 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6094521)
DJ disappeared after the sack.

As usual.

One good play then nothing for the rest of the game.
When you're not on the field, it's pretty easy to disappear.

doomy3 09-20-2009 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6094514)
DeMorrio Williams getting as many snaps as he does pretty much makes it clear that DJ won't be back after this year.
Yeah, you're probably right about this. I wonder if DJ would have any kind of trade value to a team like the Bears or Bills, who are both short on LBs now with injuries to Urlacher and Pozlunsky.

milkman 09-20-2009 08:48 PM
What happened to halfwit?

I hate to see a good lesson in basic football go to waste.









Oh hell, who am I kidding?
That dumbass will never learn.

Quiet Storm 09-20-2009 08:49 PM
Million dollars a tackle?

macdawg 09-20-2009 10:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefless (Post 6094122)
Jesus Curry was the only viable LB to take at #3. He has 8 tackles and no sacks on the year. Seems like this draft was a dud for defensive playmakers at the top of the draft. I would bet Pioli tried like a MFer to trade out of #3 to pick up Jackson later in the draft but couldn't find anyone willing to move up to pay 60mil for marginal talent...thus he took his player early. It was a sh*tty hand he was dealt IMO.
so now we have a 60 million dollar DE to tie up blockers. your 60 million dollar guy should be a rusher. Just like your top offensive player shouldn't be a TE.

aturnis 09-20-2009 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6094552)
What happened to halfwit?
ROFL Well played. Honestly though, he's an alright guy 90 some percent of the time. Just showed his ignorance here tonight.

aturnis 09-20-2009 10:54 PM
Also, 69 of the Raiders total 166 yards came on their final drive of the game. I don't understand how some of you are trying to cheapen that. Until the final Raider drive, the Chiefs defense held a team that last year had a top ten rushing offense to less than 100 yards. If you can't find anything positive in that, then you are just being pessimistic.

If you're going to complain about them, the complain about the offense not finishing drives and scoring points. If you must dog the defense, then complain that they don't know how to put it away, or how to finish games, but this game as a whole, defensively, was a plus.

DaneMcCloud 09-20-2009 10:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6094547)
Yeah, you're probably right about this. I wonder if DJ would have any kind of trade value to a team like the Bears or Bills, who are both short on LBs now with injuries to Urlacher and Pozlunsky.
I seriously doubt it.

Those teams actually require their players to be intelligent.

doomy3 09-20-2009 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6095167)
I seriously doubt it.

Those teams actually require their players to be intelligent.
Yeah, Donte Whitner, Marshawn Lynch, Leodis McKelvin. Those guys never do stupid things.

unlurking 09-21-2009 04:47 AM
Wow. Bitching about Jackson?

InChiefsHeaven 09-21-2009 05:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 6095728)
Wow. Bitching about Jackson?
Meh. Just another day on the planet. It's always something...

Tiger's Fan 09-21-2009 05:31 AM
This thread is chock full of stupidity from the usual suspects.

Hamas sounds as smart as he looks in his pic. LOL


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