Here comes Ror to hold the mirror while Mecca brushes his hair.
who woulda guessed.

Incorrect. As Mecca's spiritual advisor, I have no hair-brushing duties, thank you.

Tony Dungy won't be my life coach cause i got pets.

I suspect some are looking only at the poll and not at the posts which offer quantifiers on the "yes" vote.

I said after the draft that it was pretty obvious what the FO was trying to do. Stop the run. They had to start somewhere, and since we already had the young defensive backfield, that was the choice.

Unlike you, I realize it's early in the season, but there has been improvement in stopping the run. We've moved up 12 spots since last years 30th ranking, and are ahead of teams like the Giants, the Packers, the Cowboys, and the Chargers. We've also only given up one run of more than 20 yards, while giving up TWENTY SEVEN such runs last year.

It's easy to look at 0-3, and throw a childlike fit because we're not winning the Super Bowl yet, but you, and MANY others apparently have forgotten where this team is coming from. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither are football teams that were decimated by Herm ****ing Edwards.

I suggest you and the other nancies take up heavy drinking for the forseeable future, as we won't be winning a lot of games this year. Sane people understand this, and are willing to give a little slack.

Bravo.

crap. i did it without realizing. anyway, its just 3 games. we have to see if there is any improvement at the end of the season. im a reerun for voting...and reading this...im just going to shut up and go away now.

22 guys off the street could beat the Cleveland !@#$ing Browns.

Good thing we kept this guy around. It's pretty clear that all we needed to do was "give him more time!!!!"

Shoulda canned his ass 2 months ago. It was clear by the Raiders game that this team wasn't going to play for him. Worse still, it became increasingly obvious that the man just isn't smart enough to be in charge (yeah, lets just keep kicking away to Josh Cribbs).

Go ahead and give me the 'hindsight' BS. This guy was trash when he hired him, he was trash when this poll was created, he's trash now. Todd Haley is nothing more than the O-Coordinator version of Gunther Cunningham.

reerun filter, indeed.

You "Bravo'd" Buster Hyman.

God you suck.

It's really hard not to get on Haley, the past few weeks he's mad horrific playcalling decisions.

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he's on real shaky ground IMO.

The best part of that is that he "Bravo'd" Buster Hyman immediately after the guy said:

Bravo.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL


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Haley never should have been hired in the first place

If by "the past few weeks" you mean, "starting in week 1".

I'll say the same thing I said months ago - someone, ANYONE, give me a defense of Todd Haley other than "give him more time".

His actions from the moment he has been hired, from his staff, to player personnel, to game management, have been abysmal.

Jesus, imagine how bad this team would be if Herm hadn't drafted Carr, Flowers and Charles.

I hate Herm Edwards, absolutely despise the man. But he's a better head coach than Todd Haley.

...

C'mon Eyepod, GoChiefs, Scott Free...

Where are you mouthy mother****ers now? Where are all those eye-rolling smileys and dipshit rhetoricals?

"HE JUST NEEDS MORE TIME!!!!!!"

Look at the progress this team is making! By week 5 of next season, we'll be in a position to give up 300 yards rushing to Ki-Jana Carter.

Looks like another poll is in order.

I really don't know what Haley can do to completely **** up more.

They've already begun, they've just transferred the love to Cassel for today, and are stroking his monkey in different threads.

The best was Hootie crowing about our run D after Ray Rice annihilated us in week 1.

Yep....I want him gone and I've been a supporter of his most of the year. I don't think there is one single thing that he has improved on this team. We could lose him tonight and lose nothing as far as the rebuild goes. He brings nothing to the table.
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And yet, your avatar.:D

yes

How much can I say yes?

Is there a word that means more than yes?...

I was a Haley supporter through the midseason. After Hermie, anything was better. Boy how bad things have gotten. I'd love to say, "nope, let's keep Haley and see what he can do in his second year." But it will be but yet another Chief's attempt at patching the leaking dam. The whole team sucks with the exception of Charles. And he's not a 30 carry a game back. He will be done if soon the way he's being used. They definitely need an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, at least one position each of defense, a whole new O-line, WR's that can catch and a QB coach that can show Cassel how to throw the ball and not go into fetal position 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. There is probably more, I'm too damn pissed to go further.

And I was correct back then.

Am I the only one who thinks Haley's offense would work with better players? As bad as we are, we often have players in position to make plays- unfortunately, they eff it up. Imagine if we had more talented players (accurate QB with an arm, receivers who actually catch, Oline worth two shits). I think Haley's offense works, I just don't think we have the players to run it (or any other, for that matter). Our roster is a mess.

him and Pioli are still riding on Herm's coat tails. give it a year or two. sheesh

For whom is this not true?

Haley's "ability" to manage a game would prevent the best team from winning a championship, and this is all that matters.

Good thing, too, otherwise we'd have a kicker and Chambers.

Our regime's ability to evaluate talent has been stellar, which is why Charles was inactive earlier in the season.

Our best player was inactive while a broke dick, 2.7 YPC, spitter was getting the carries. Let that sink in for a bit.

Haley should be given a chance to coach a team with a coaching staff. Its not his fault Pioli was hired late, and its not his fault he was hired late. Its also not his fault Clark pushed Gailey onto them. This shit takes time. Seriously, how many first year coaches have taken complete shit winning team in one year?

Haley's game management has been awful, yes, but I don't think it has cost us as much as the derth of talent on the roster. for this reason, I wouldn't upset to see Haley again next year. He definitely needs to learn some control, but at least he is aggressive. Of course, if there is a better head coaching option, I wouldn't cry to see him go, either.

We need a new assistant head coach. A white one who can manage the clock for Haley... whats Dick Curl doing?

That happens all the time in the NFL. How did Tom Brady get into the starting lineup? Kurt Warner? Hell, teams have completely discarded guys like Rich Gannon (out of football for a couple of years before Marty picked him up).

I'll get blasted for this by some, but, I could give a ****:

If Bill Cowher would take the job, you give it to him in an instant. Immediate, HUGE upgrade for the entire organization.

I believe he's evolved enough as a coach to compete at the highest level. Now, would he agree not to have complete control and work with Pioli? That's the only question.

I definitely agree with this. And players would want to come here.

While there's truth to what you're saying, one would be hard pressed to find a more worthless player taking the place of a clear upgrade.

Not nearly the case with the examples that you've cited.

Hypothetical: The Chin was the HC of this very same roster this year. What would our final record have been (be)?

Firing a coach after one year means only that you have an incompetent GM. No reasonable GM would fire a first-year coach who took over a 2-14 team.

Cowher would definitely be an improvement over Haley. I'm not sure he would be my first choice though, given his offensive philosophies.

Seconded.

I know some here have a problem with the team-building philosophy he displayed for so many years in Pitt, but who's to say he hasn't learned a thing or two during his time as an analyst?

Or to say that the benefit of hindsight wouldn't serve him or US well.

Players would come, and young players would RESPECT Bill Cowher.

And fear him a little bit too, which isn't a bad thing if it's done RIGHT.

Where is the Gaz option?

Where is the "I don't care" option?

I love this argument.

Every single week the best players on the field, the only guys that belong on an NFL roster, are guys that were brought in by Herm.

Haioli's responsible for Mike Brown, Vrabel, Goff, Jackson, Cassel, etc... Not to mention the departure of Pollard and the monsterous regression of Branden Albert.

Succop doesn't even count for !@#$ seeing as how Conner Barth is every bit as capable.

Chambers is the only clear upgrade that this regime has brought in and even that one was a blind squirrel. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that didn't think bringing in Chambers as a good idea, so I'm hardly going to give him credit for managing to not screw up a complete no-brainer.

This team would be significantly further along had Haley had an aneurysm in training camp and never coached or made a single decision for this team.

The thing I like, is that the quote you're countering encapsulates the gist of the situation perfectly; they are INDEED riding Herm's( talent acquisition )coattails.

Why?

What have you seen to lead you to believe that Todd Haley is the best we can do in 2010 and beyond?

Some of you folks seem to think it's either retain Haley or fold the franchise.

I'll say the same thing I've said for months - Please please please PLEASE give me a reason why he should be retained.

Don't say "give him more time." Don't say "Well at least he's not Herm."

Tell me what this person has on his resume that suggests he ought be retained. Is it the 9-7 record he compiled last season with the best WR corps in football and one of the 10 most accurate passers of all time at his disposal?

Are you really putting that much stock in the fact that the man coordinated a team that won 3 games in January? Those 3 games were so well coordinated that we should give those more weight than this abortion of a season? A season in which we not only lost games, but did so in embarassing fashion and often directly because of how the coach handled the game. A season in which we surrendered 800 yds rushing in the last 3 home games with a head coach that says stopping the run is all about attitude.

Someone please tell me what he's actually done that merits continued employment.

Clark Hunt is not going fire Pioli after one season. Pioli is not going to fire Haley after one season.

To continue to post about it is pointless. It's not going to happen.

Pioli would also be admitting he made a mistake, something that egomaniacs don't ever do.

This is just another version of "Give him more time"

I don't presume any of us are actually Clark Hunt, so I'm not asking you to say why you, the CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs, will definitively fire Todd Haley.

Instead I'm asking some of you fine gentlemen to engage your brains and actually proffer an opinion of your own.

The board has been in woefully short supply of these over the last several months. It seems like everyone's just falling over themselves to blindly support the current front office.

C'mon, surely someone can actually provide a cogent defense for Haley. Right?

Plenty of us have described our reasons for supporting Todd Haley. You'll have to excuse us if we don't feel like making up a power point presentation for you with bullet points and action items.

Read for yourself.

Hiring Todd Haley in the first place means you have an incompetent GM.

Drafting Tyson Jackson at #3 overall means that you have an incompetent GM.

Trading a #2 and giving a long-term deal to Matt Cassel means that you have an incompetent GM.

I can show you a lot of things about this club that scream 'incompetent GM'...undoing a problem like Todd Haley would be among the first even marginally competent thing Pioli has done in his time in KC.

Can't even give me a link?

Surely you'll be willing to stand behind it.

Fatlock stole this thread and made it tomorrow's column.

today is the day. its official, we gotta clean house. 286 to who? i don't normally like merry go round coaching, but he hasn't demonstrated any ability to lead this team at all. they're ****ing clown shoes!

And you would be talking to a ****ing wall. Or a room full of Buster Hyman's!

Take your pick!

All the responses to the old stopping the run comment is so much more hilarious today.

I had to watch Herm Edwards for 3 ****ing years....I can handle giving a rookie head coach 2.

Agreed. Actualy Im starting to worry more about Pisoli for bringing Haley in as HC.:eek:

DJ's left nut for the motha fockin WIN!

Oh my, I imagine how much fun this thread will be.

Haley rules the planet.

:LOL:

Ouch, bro.

I feel bad for bumping this now.

:popcorn:


Gonna be a rough ride for DJ's left nut.

Wonder how he likes his crow?

There has got to be a better way to take seals as game.

The Early Years of the CSCL

As the “Great White North” was slowly tamed by alcoholic racists like Jack London, seal clubbing began to garner an organized fan base. Much like lacrosse, Caucasians that came into contact with the sport were at first horrified, then perplexed, then confused. They then decided to make it palatable to the White Man by adding a number of needlessly complicated rules and equipment. It was from this mismatched meeting of cultures that seal clubbing as we know it today was born.

In 1903 the first professional seal clubbing club—the Yellowknife Yellowskins—was founded. The team would scrimmage with the local Inuit tribes; it was the popularity of these scrimmages led to the formation of the additional five teams that made up the “Original Six” teams (the Whitehorse Whiteskins, Red Deer Redskins, Armstrong Strong Arms, Saskatoon Coons, and Iqaluit ****ers) of the Canadian Seal Clubbing League.

Seal Clubbing Today

Today, seal clubbing is played on an amateur, semi-professional, and professional level. The sixteen teams of the CSCL make up the 22th largest professional sports league in North America, just beating out Major League Soccer. There are also two “minor” seal clubbing leagues—one based in Canada and another in Europe. Seal clubbing is also the official sport of the Territory of Nunavut.

In addition, the sport will be contested for the first time at an international level during the 2010 Winter Olympics—a major victory for the sport as a whole. Sixteen nations—including the United States, Russia, Germany, and China—have fielded teams, causing the sport’s popularity to increase dramatically.

Rules

Seal clubbing is typically played by two teams of six. Each man is equipped with a club—called a club—as well as clothing conducive to the weather. The teams search out and bludgeon as many seals as possible, with points being awarded based upon the size, age, and relative “cuteness” of the seals. The amount of points varies significantly from league to league, and is also affected by the time of year, and the size of the local seal population.

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damn dude....:LOL:

How can they tell how cute it was after it's head has been bashed in?

Wow, man. What are you searching for to generate these results.

I'm gonna' take a chance on this one, but: posts made by DJ's Left Nut in this thread?

I meant the pictures...

Do you think it's hard to find pictures of seals being clubbed? Really?

Nah, but the penguin slaugther has me concerned for your mental health.

Those are seals, bro.

Perfectly normal.

Sorry. They were clubbed so thoroughly I thought they had wings and a beak. Please, continue.

Ya. I was wrong... In my defense i posted that after the browns 3rd string rb almost broke the 300 mark against us. FWIW Im glad I was wrong.

Heh. The Donk fans all wanted us to ditch Haley

I just voted to fire haley! **** yea can that bitch! Especially now that mcdaniels is available again!

It's going to be fun seeing some posters eat crow. LMAO

DJs Nut hoisted on his own petard for all to see.

This may leave a mark.