Mecca isn't as bad as some.

RoR is the Sanchezologist and he's holed up at the moment. Big surprise.

Didn't maintain possession after that first foot hit.

you have to give him that

Maybe Fitzpatrick is the franchise QB playing in this game.

dude I am as drunk as I have ever been right now

Juggled. Incomplete.

You're typing pretty coherently for being smashed. I tend to abstain from computers and cell phones if I'm that drunk. Nothing good comes out of it.

I wouldn't be so worried about tunnel vision on Edwards.

In watching this game, I think you have to wonder about his arm strength. His throws have absolutely no mustard and it's a concern you never really think about, playing in a Pac-10 Division where you never have to throw a ball that cuts into the wind.

A lot of his throws have a LOT of loft. And in the wind, those balls are going to move very, very differently. Given that he's playing in the NFC East, I think this is a situation we'll have to monitor very closely.

He has multiple QB pressures today. But then again, seeing as you're aware of watching the game to the point where you didn't even know that Cotchery was inactive, we'll take your input.

Oh, Tom Brady sucks, too. System QB...Only threw 6 TDs in about 32 minutes today.

damn....dude deserved it just for the effort

Just get a DD, because given the way the world works, when you drive your car off the road, you'll end up hitting an SUV full of children and walk away w/o a scratch.

Dude...I just did the Dr. challenge...

10 shots, 5 minutes...it was awful.

walkable distance buddy

Hell, Chad Pennington did pretty well for himself in New York. I think Sanchez's arm strength is a negligible concern. He just needs to practice throwing more darts and less Huard lobs.

The only real concern NYJ should take away from this game is his vision. Because he's making throws a blind man probably wouldn't.

I think that's a fair point. He's also never played in weather like this before. Guys take time to adjust to this kind of weather. Maybe he'll end up like Eli and never be effective @ home. It's entirely possible. Or maybe he's just a n00b. Or some combination thereof.

Buffalo. OH MY!!!!

wow, it looked like it was going to slice

And that will do it.

That loss is squarely on Sanchez's shoulders x 1000.

Lindell, FTW.

Jets didn't deserve that one in the least. Congrats, Buffalo fans. You sorry bastards needed that one.

Without a doubt.

in other news, Brady threw another TD pass, while walking into the shower...

That was an ugly game full of horrible play on both sides.

Sanchez is going to struggle till he gets use to the NY weather, the Meadowlands is a tough stadium to play in.

Should be fun listening to Rex Ryan now...

arrowhead is a tough stadium to play in so cassel gets a pass

Oh yeah, those winds play havoc.

I think long term Sanchez will be fine...

This is why I've stressed for many months that distance arm strength is grossly overrated and I don't understand why people are so obsessed with it. Or why so many seem to think distance = arm strength.

Most scouts could care less if you throw 70 yards as opposed to 60. What they care about is the zip you can put into the ball and whether you throw a ball that cuts into the conditions. Pennington didn't have a good arm from a distance standpoint, but he threw a nice enough ball that it still had zip in the conditions. For as much shit as Huard got, he never seemed to have a problem throwing a zipped ball in the conditions.

Sanchez's ball looked really sloppy today. On both his lobs and his fired passes. His passes didn't have that clean-cut spiral that knifes into the wind. And so even on passes that he fired, you could see the ball almost die a little bit in mid-air. That's certainly got to be a concern if you're a Jets fan and it's something the QBs coach is going to need to really work with him on. I don't think it's too unfixable. I think he learns to throw a cleaner ball, and he'll be fine. But it's relevant in that a lot of his bread and butter passes have come from lob passes that are going to be very affected by wind.

A couple of them died because you could see he tried to lob the ball which was stupid for that weather but not surprising since it was his first time playing in it.

Sanchez better get use to the cold quick or he is going to have a horrible career during the 2nd part of a season on a regular bases. He can't be protected by the California sunshine and only one season lifestyle forever.

There were many draft experts that stated they had major concerns about Sanchez's ability to play in a cold weather city. I don't doubt the Jets drafting him on talent, but there are more to the equation than a physical skills.

Dude, cut yourself off. There is no comparison in the wind swirls. That's not in any way an excuse for Sanchez's shitbomb today, but there is a HUGE difference between the stadiums.

Never once saw this.

Anybody change opinions today? In this thread? Great!

See you next week, same time, same channel. (And the week after that, and the week after that....)

Played like a true rookie QB today, didn't break Namath's record for most interceptions in a game though. Forced a lot of throws trying to make a play and it backfired on his ass. Part of the growing pains of a rookie.

If that was really the case that every west coast QB would be downgraded and there are numerous successful QB's that never played in adverse conditions until their NFL careers started.

ROFL

You're on a roll.

In OT, there was the "drive for five," and Sanchez came through...

Well, first, that's a big throw to take away from his arsenal because he uses it quite a bit. In particular, he does it when he tries to escape pressure and heaves it on the run. He throws it with tremendous accuracy, but it's worth noting that that ball is going to be affected in cold conditions. That would be my biggest concern. He's going to have learn to become reliant on fired passes.

The other flaw this exposes is that Sanchez also holds on to the ball too long way too often. If he was quicker and more decisive, he could throw the ball more often on his plant, gun it into open space when the receiver hits his break. When he takes a little longer, he either throws on the run or he does what Green does--find a soft pocket in the zone and throw to a spot which doesn't require nearly as much zip on the ball. That's something he was criticized for in college but it's just now coming to light. Maybe he fixes it with experience. Then again, maybe he doesn't.

The other concern is something I think is fixable. His fired balls didn't look great either. They seem to often tail on him. He's going to have to work with the QBs coach on getting a much crisper ball out of his hands.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/footbal...ayers/2153.jpg

Did somebody say QB pressures???


Also...throwing Manning's name in this thread is pointless. 3700 yards and 26 TDs

While true, Cassel played in the AFC East last year. Foxboro is as bad if not worse than the Meadowlands. Also, Fitzgerald didn't seem to have a problem--he sucked, but his passes didn't seem to be affected by the conditions.

Fitzgerald is from the Northeast I beleive. I know he played at Harvard.

At least he's trying to win, because he's throwing all those picks and all.

It's so they can feel all smart and smug and say "I told you so". They want Sanchez to succeed and Cassel to fail for their own egos.

Sanchez wanted to keep Buffalo out of our draft pick area, win!

Yup. And he played at Cincinnati and the AFC North, where the conditions are tougher. Like I said, it's something that can be fixed. But I think a lot of what he saw today is going to force him to adjust his game pretty significantly. It's definitely at least something to keep on the radar.

Some here have made evaluations on a rookie coach's future after 1/3 of a season.

This is absolute truth. I ****ing hate people like that, and theres no shortage of them on here, or in this thread.

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Did you get your PhD in Dumbassery?

Yeah, I'm sure that people who have suffered with this team for 30+ years really want to watch Cassel fail, so we can suffer another 5 years - all so they can say, "I told you so."

reerun.

I haven't seen anyone who is urging patience for rookie QBs doing that, so I'd say that pretty much ****s this idea.

It's posts like this that make me realize how stupid some of the people that post on here are.

Yes. Precisely why I've kept losing money on ST's for the last 3 years of 7 and 31 football.

We all waste our time and money hoping the team will suck forever, yea that's the ticket.

What I would like to know is who here has said they want too see Cassel fail? I have not seen one person here say that.

Yes. I only watch this team for schadenfraude, and so, when it fails, I can say "I was right". That's why I spent 50+ hours a year just watching the games.

Buster, before gas prices get too high, please:

http://i43.tinypic.com/b3q4hg.jpg

And while we're uncovering bullshit, here's another episode of Hootie supposedly having his laptop stolen.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=216497

So you can buy that fandom now? Carl would approve.

The post was about you, my friend...;) Among others.

Nice to see his sensitive side come out when he drinks. Can't they permaban that ass hat?

Yes, that's precisely what I meant there. I support a team I hate and I want to lose so that I can tell people that I support them, even though I want their QB to fail and for them to lose.

Point still stands.

this has turned into the Republicans wanting Obama to fail debate

Apparently this post struck a nerve with Hamas. You should see the neg rep he gave me. You would think I had mentioned him specifically...:D

****tardation always strikes a nerve. Have another.

Look blowhard, everyone knows what type of asshole you are. You're the know-it-all thats never wrong. The guy that, even with a win, insists on picking it apart. You actively root for your mexican bf to succeed, while shitting on Cassel at every opportunity. Why you do what you do has more to do with the POS you are, than it has to do with who you claim as "your team".

Buster Hymen is above it all with his personal feelings on the other posters while never providing any sort of football take of his own.

Awesome shit he brings guys, stand back and marvel.

are watching train wrecks really a waste of time? Im not accusing, btw

After a win is the time to be the most critical, IMO.

Don't sweat it. I never received more pos rep than when hamas started to rep war me. Most people here think he's a total asshole.

When Cassel plays well, I praise him (see my comments during the 4th quarter of the Dallas and Oakland game). When he doesn't, I criticize him (see my comments in the game thread today). But please, keep inventing this narrative to justify your own idiotic world view.

I'm sure you do.

You wouldn't go much out of your way to debunk anything mecca, hamas, dipshitdane, or OTWP had to say.

I thought 4th quarter was just garbage time stats padding?

:Poke:

In the meantime you've done almost nothing but make excuses and play ride on the pony on Sanchez jock, who has looked like dog shit all season and rode the coattails of that defense.

You're an effin moron. Melt down bitch.

I'm not sweating it, I was expecting it. :D Hamas is very predictable. Funny how he took it personally when I didn't even mention any names. :D

God I hope we are not going to have this same tired debate every week.

You put the evidence out there daily. I don't have to make up anything.

How many ****ing strikes does that make now?

Notice who keeps starting the threads...

My opinions stand on their own, in this forum or otherwise.

But it seems you completely missed the point of the post you responded to, but it doesn't really matter.

He dances like a good monkey would.

ROFL..

I doled out plenty of criticism of Sanchez in this very thread. I called him "abysmal", said he was staring Edwards down too much, wasn't going to his other reads, and that the loss fell squarely on his shoulders.

But yes, I've done nothing but defend him.

Christ, you're a ****ing idiot.

I have yet to see that either. Overly critical is about the worst I could really say, well, that and everyone taking this thing personally.

Yep When Sanchez has a great game it will be pretty silent around here.

Maybe we should start a thread everytime Romo has a bad game.

and BTW I am no Sanchez fan or Cassel fan.