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Many of his "TD's" were when the game was over. The Giants and Eagles had second teamers on the field. It was a practice session at that point. |
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The same career where he's been the league MVP. The career that has a Super Bowl trophy attached. The same career that has his team 6-0 with two unknown receivers. Yep, he's just awful. |
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Cassel won 10 games that he started, not 11. Furthermore, not many teams in the NFL have that line, those receivers, that defense and THAT HEAD COACH. Cassel is NOT Tom Brady. |
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Seriously. You're going to tell me that Peyton Manning folds under pressure and THAT'S an established FACT? Are you joking? |
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again i never said that cassel is tom brady.never. and whats the excuse that the pats are on track to have about the same record this year WITH brady. |
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Do you really expect the Patriots to lose three more games this year and NOT make the playoffs? I don't. I'll be surprised if they lose one more game all year. |
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We dont have the worst recieving corps in the NFL they arent hofers, but we have a average, maybe somewhat below average, recieving corps. Vicks receiving corps were known as horrible until Ryan got there, same thing...you have to find the open receiver and he hasnt done that. Get some free tickets to the next game on craigslist (there will be plenty) and see how many open receivers he misses all game long. Thats all my friends that went to the game could talk about, said all the people sitting around them were saying the same thing and numerous shouts of WTF were yelled repeatedly. |
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Then how do you explain the fact that since his first year in the league, his completion percentage has never been below 62% and generally averages around 67%? Or the fact other than two years when he had 3,700 yards passing, he's had over 4,000 yards each season for 9 out of 10 years? How do you explain 348 TD's versus only 169 INT's, virtually 2-1 ratio? If all that was needed was pressure to take Peyton Manning out of his game, I don't think his numbers would be what they are today. That's a lame argument, Jason. |
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It was bad luck that Brady had his ACL shredded by Bernard Pollard. |
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In 2002, we added Roaf and Waters really started to show up and "the line of fame" was built. |
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dane the guy consistently has one of the best lines in the nfl sorry. he is a great QB but he has problems when pressured |
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Again how many teams have gone 11-5 and NOT made the playoffs? |
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how where his stats in that super bowl run? |
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Waters was originally signed as an undrafted college free agent by the Cowboys as a tight end. After he was cut, he came to KC and played in 6 games in 2000. He moved into the starting guard position in 2001 and by 2004, was a Pro-Bowler. None of that negates the fact that the 2001 offensive line was far superior to the 2009 version. |
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lol this thread coming from the same guy who also said this week the Chiefs offense would start to improve. How the **** do you have a job writting about footnall?
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go to a colts board and say they have always had one of the best lines in the NFL. it is an untrue statement. Their line has struggled since Glenn retired after their superbowl win. They arent in the same zipcode of suck that ours is in, but they have been a NFL average line at best and have recently struggled with numerous injuries. Peyton is GREAT at shuffling around in the pocket and has one of the quickest releases in NFL history. Teams dont blitz because of that and the fact he is so smart he sees the blitz and disects the defense to find the wide open reciever....Cassel sees that blitz and stops looking downfield. Cassel will never be a top ten QB |
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Lots of stuff clouding my memory from that long ago. |
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But regardless, it was superior, no matter how you look at it. |
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And furthermore, if all it took was pressure, why wouldn't opposing defensive coordinators just bring the house on each and every passing down? Oh, that's right. Because Peyton would shred their secondary with his quick release, resulting in touchdowns. Duh. |
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If he was playing magnificently behind this line, would you say the same thing about him? He locks onto receivers, won't throw downfield, won't throw into traffic and looks like a deer in the headlights. This offensive line sucks ass but Cassel has just shown nothing. |
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That sux. He isnt half the QB PM is while under pressure. We could have kept Huard if what we wanted was an average qb. ----ok maybe thats going too far, but maybe not. Huard went 5-3 in 2005 and thats about the same as 10-5 right? That was with a far less talented team than Cassel had last year. Cassel got 63,000,000 because he didnt wreck the Ferrari, mostly because he never even shifted into 6th gear! |
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If they gave him a couple years prep, they could probably teach a monkey to run that offense with all pros all over the place. |
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He's paid to hit the open guy. When he misses him, criticism is warranted. We paid this guy $63 million to be the anti-Thigpen. So far he's quasi-Thigpen. |
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So, I disagree with the locking on comment to a certain extent. But even if he is, he's flat out overthrowing open guys. That can't happen. Not at his price tag. Get better or bring on Brokie. |
The discussion of Thigpen and Cassel is mute....We have who we have. But at some point, just because he's gotten the big check doesn't cut as a reasonable excuse. 1-6. Let Brodie throw the ball and show some humility. He can't do any worse. If he gets hurt, you're in no worse condition. If he does well, wins always look better. We do not have our franchise guy. We have a possible talent, though not durable, and it's not Cassel.
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I see more Elvis Grbac in this guy than Joe Montana. |
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But that's nothing new. |
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His problem always seemed to be a brain fart at the wrong time + shitty attitude/asshole tendencies. The weird thing about Cassel is he has all the "intangibles" and I think he's a really smart guy. He just...blows it. |
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I'm speechless. |
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I like Cassel but he needs to improve a lot over the last 9 games. I call it like I see it and Sunday that might as well have been Thigpen. |
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No, Thigpen would be forcing defenses to respect his ability to run the ball himself. Cassel is a taller, slower version of Thigpen that takes a sack instead of gaining positive yards. If Cassel would just take off running when protection breaks down, teams would respect that and keep a couple defenders back to defend it, sadly enough though, he just goes in his "fetal position drills". |
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I honestly hate half of the fan base of this team, I really ****ing do. |
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He has to improve. But until he gets consistently decent protection, it's still tough to make that call. Albert also needs to improve. And Haley has to get a clue and keep Wade Smith at Center and get Goff the **** out of the RG position. Frankly, if today he went with Albert-Waters-Smith-Alleman-O'Callaghan (or with Ndukwe replacing Alleman), I think within a few games, while that offensive line would suck, it would be good enough that we can start to fairly evaluate Cassel's ability. |
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Do you remember when Bledsoe was the Dallas qb and how the line was getting crucified? Romo came in and all of a sudden the line wasnt a problem anymore because of his release and his ability to shake the pressure. Bledsoe took 49 sacks in his last full season...Romo cut that figure more than in half in his first year starting. If a qb doesnt get the ball out and have a quick release, defenses prey on it I really hate to say it, but Cassel is playing like Bledsoe back then |
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His downfield accuracy reminds me of Thigpen for sure.
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Horrible OL, no running game to take the pressure off, revolving door of starting receivers every week, no to to receiver/safety valve, no QB coach. I can't imagine why he isn't putting up better numbers.
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the people that shell out thousands of dollars annually to support the team in various ways. Many of us have done exactly that and after the last two years, feel we deserve more than a "yeah were gonna suck for the next two years, but dont worry we are gonna raise the prices too..." bs while they sit on so much money that we arent even at the league ****ing minimum! Have you seen how much the club seating has risen in the last couple years? and is slated to go up to almost double within the next few? Its sick. The stadium is 1/3 empty for a reason and that takes a big advantage away from the team. |
Cassel is Huard on steroids.....
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He couldnt hit what might go down as the best deep threat of all time with the deep ball. less than a handfull of completions over 21 yards in the air all year long http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=8644 |
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Yeah... hell... who really cares about 2009. There's always next year. We shouldn't be all expectant of a legitimate professional football team to actually get better in the span of a few seasons. I mean, come on. We have to temper our expectations. They deserve a completely wasted season once in a while, amIright? I mean, what all actually happens during one season? Sheesh. Overrated. We should just wait till <strike>2010</strike> <strike>2011</strike> <strike>2013</strike> 2015 like good downtrodden defeated fans, and be content with the franchise totally wasting an entire season. I mean it's not their fault right? It takes time... If there's one thing this franchise has taught its fans, it's that "There's always hope for next season"®©™ Who really cares about 2009 anyway? |
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And still fork our $$$$ over like properly conditioned Pavlov's dogs!!!! WOOT! ELEVENTYJILLION!!!1111!!!!!1~@ |
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How far under the cap will we be next year and what bs story will be the excuse as to why that is? |
Superbowl XLIV is for pussies. I mean.. who cares about Superbowl XLIV? Meh...
Now next season.... then shit gets real.... WHOOOOOO!! |
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THERE WILL BE NO SALARY CAP NEXT YEAR. Which in itself causes all kinds of problems for the Chiefs. |
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Teams would also have 2 franchise tags. Doesnt matter anyway, we have been spending like a small marker team without a cap anyway for the last few years. We are still below the minimum arent we? just checking... |
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The QB failure known as Tim Hasselbeck just said on NFL Live that "Matt Cassel is quietly having a great year in KC..."
LMAO I didn't realize that after week 6, 995 yards passing with 8td's and 5 int's qualifies as a great year. Hell, since I don't get KC football here in Orlando this year, I didn't realize how anemic the O is...damn, someone wake me up in 2012 |
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