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SAUTO 11-24-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6289587)
Okay, let's try this again:

They ARE thrilled with Mark Sanchez; they know he's capable of winning.

They are NOT thrilled with the O-Coord.

Any other questions?

did coordinator make him throw 4 more ints and lose a fumble last week?

Chiefnj2 11-24-2009 08:31 AM

The New York Post ripping on the OC. Oh no, wait, they rip on Sanchez:

The Jets have gone from clinging to playoff hopes to leaving you to wonder how many games they'll lose in this rookie year for Ryan and Mark Sanchez -- who was horrendous, throwing four INTs, all of them head-scratchers, and three of them to cornerback Leigh Bodden.

"I didn't know today was December 25th; I mean three fair catches," Patriots linebacker Adalius Thomas crowed afterward about the three Sanchez gifts left under Bodden's tree.

The turnover-prone Sanchez (16 INTs, nine fumbles and three lost this season) completed as many passes to his own receivers (two) as he did to Bodden in the first half.

His first pick was a telegraphed pass into traffic in the direction of Jerricho Cotchery, but it landed right in the waiting arms of Bodden, who returned it 53 yards for a 7-0 New England lead with 5:47 remaining in the first quarter.

On Sanchez's second INT, he led Braylon Edwards too far, and it again was picked off by Bodden. The Patriots turned that INT into a 26-yard Stephen Gostkowski field goal and a 24-0 lead with 4:14 remaining in the first half.

Sanchez, who's now thrown three or more in a game three times, finished the first half 2-of-9 for 15 yards, the two INTs and a 0.0 passer rating.

In between the first-half Sanchez picks, Patriots QB Tom Brady (28-41, 310 yards, 1 TD) connected with Randy Moss on a four-yard scoring pass, and Laurence Maroney scored on a two-yard run.

When the Jets actually climbed back into the game with a blocked punt for a TD and a Sanchez TD pass to Cotchery, Sanchez gave it right back with two crushing INTs in the second half, the last of which led to the Patriots' final TD.

This was way too easy for 7-3 New England. NFL games are not supposed to be this easy to win.

The lifeless Jets looked like a beaten team long before halftime.

Now they're a foundering team with virtually no hope of making the playoffs and wondering when -- if? -- they'll win another game.

"We're a desperate football team now," linebacker Bart Scott said.

The Jets should have played like one yesterday -- then maybe their plight and mood would be a lot different today.

Hootie 11-24-2009 08:35 AM

Notice how ROR has been so quiet lately?

You know...with Cassel clearly outplaying Sanchez this year...and Cassel has been mediocre.

Now...I didn't expect Sanchez to be great...he is a rookie...but lets be honest...Sanchez has every bit as much talent as Flacco had last year (if not more) and Ryan had last year...

So I think we got pretty good value out of our 2nd round pick...especially if Cassel and the Chiefs can build on this last game and keep improving...they might have a little swagger heading into San Diego this weekend...

I don't expect a win...but perhaps a competitive game? We'll see...

Hootie 11-24-2009 08:37 AM

It's just hilarious how a message board can turn a supposed Chiefs fan (ROR) into a Jets fan JUST so he/she (not sure what ROR's gender is) can be right and tell everyone how dumb the Chiefs are for choosing Cassel over Sanchez...

It's just hilarious that he's deflecting the fail of making Sanchez start when he's so raw on the offensive coordinator over there...

Yikes dude, yikes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2009 11:24 AM

No, you see I gotta' be the guy that takes all of Mecca and Hamas' lumps when they disappear because I'm not afraid to man up, come in to your little ****ing romper room, and put my foot to your ass.

The day I believe ANYTHING related to football coming from Hootie, SAUTO, or Buster's Pussy, is the day I become a Soccer fan.

Which will NEVER happen.

Keep on thinking that one game gives you license to pound your chest like a reeruned ****ing gorilla; it just makes what's coming all the sweeter.

Iowanian 11-24-2009 11:25 AM

Hurry up and post about zone coverage Pootie.

Brock 11-24-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6290530)
Keep on thinking that one game gives you license to pound your chest like a reeruned ****ing gorilla; it just makes what's coming all the sweeter.

What's coming? There's a pretty good chance that Sanchez will be just another Jets washout. You have more invested in this than anyone else, for some weird reason.

Mr. Plow 11-24-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6290122)
Notice how ROR has been so quiet lately?

Ignore feature is wonderful, you should try it.

COchief 11-24-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6287026)
I don't think it's a coincidence that Haley had his best coaching effort and breakthrough game while his father was in town.

And before you jump to conclusions, I'm talking about his actual mother and father.

Many people perform at their highest level in front of their parents and Haley appears to be no exception.

I know this is four pages late, but this is just flat out ridiculous. Haley is a 40+ grown man, I highly doubt he pissed his pants because daddy was watching, plus I am pretty sure his dad watches on tv every week. He isn't five years old you know?

The Bad Guy 11-24-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6289587)
Okay, let's try this again:

They ARE thrilled with Mark Sanchez; they know he's capable of winning.

They are NOT thrilled with the O-Coord.

Any other questions?

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

I have several Jet fan friends, and they are all not thrilled with Sanchez. He really has tools to work with and he keeps regressing each week.
When you have a great run game like the Jets, he should be much better than he is despite being a rookie.

I was a huge Sanchez fan, but NY could be the worst place on earth for him. Mike Francesa is all over him. The NY media is all over him. His honeymoon period is over.

4 and 5 interception games just aren't acceptable even for a rookie.

I have serious doubts about him surviving in NY. The worst thing that happened to him was the early success because the Jets fans and media raised their expectations. Now, he is facing an uphill climb every week.

The Bad Guy 11-24-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6290530)

Keep on thinking that one game gives you license to pound your chest like a reeruned ****ing gorilla; it just makes what's coming all the sweeter.

I'm failing to understand why you are fighting this fight.

Do you want Sanchez to outplay Cassel to fill some type of agenda? Do not go all Whitlock.

DaneMcCloud 11-24-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 6290568)
I know this is four pages late, but this is just flat out ridiculous. Haley is a 40+ grown man, I highly doubt he pissed his pants because daddy was watching, plus I am pretty sure his dad watches on tv every week. He isn't five years old you know?

Sorry, I fully disagree.

It's not like his dad is a "nobody". Haley clearly needed someone to tell him to settle down and I think it's no coincidence that when his father was town, he controlled his emotions.

stevieray 11-24-2009 12:34 PM

Haley's dad won the game111

Thanks Mr. Haley!

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6290670)
I'm failing to understand why you are fighting this fight.

Do you want Sanchez to outplay Cassel to fill some type of agenda? Do not go all Whitlock.

In regards to your first post; I'm going on consensus from the Jets board I post at, but I'm sure there ARE more than a few fans who are disappointed.

In regards to your second, I've got a bet to win and I'm going to win it. And If I don't, then I'll be gone and denied the wonderful experience that is Chiefs Planet.
I've yet to decide if that's a good or bad thing. How would I ever cope without Hootie, SAUTO, Buster's Pussy, The Talking Chlamydia, The Tardian, Just Washing Ball, and the other assorted/random **** nuts that bring such joy to my daily existence?

CoMoChief 11-24-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 6290568)
I know this is four pages late, but this is just flat out ridiculous. Haley is a 40+ grown man, I highly doubt he pissed his pants because daddy was watching, plus I am pretty sure his dad watches on tv every week. He isn't five years old you know?

ROFL this.

Having that said it was a big win for Haley.

The Bad Guy 11-24-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6290717)
In regards to your first post; I'm going on consensus from the Jets board I post at, but I'm sure there ARE more than a few fans who are disappointed.

In regards to your second, I've got a bet to win and I'm going to win it. And If I don't, then I'll be gone and denied the wonderful experience that is Chiefs Planet.
I've yet to decide if that's a good or bad thing. How would I ever cope without Hootie, SAUTO, Buster's Pussy, The Talking Chlamydia, The Tardian, Just Washing Ball, and the other assorted/random **** nuts that bring such joy to my daily existence?

What's the bet?

OnTheWarpath15 11-24-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6290754)
What's the bet?

He'll confirm or correct me, but IIRC, it was total yards.

Right now, it's basically a dead heat.

Sanchez: 1853

Cassel: 1845


EDIT: Unless for some reason sack yardage was included, in which Sanchez' lead would be around 50 yards.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6290775)
He'll confirm or correct me, but IIRC, it was total yards.

Right now, it's basically a dead heat.

Sanchez: 1853

Cassel: 1845


EDIT: Unless for some reason sack yardage was included, in which Sanchez' lead would be around 50 yards.

Did you add in rushing?

OnTheWarpath15 11-24-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6290829)
Did you add in rushing?

Yes.

Sanchez - 1791 Passing, 62 Rushing, 1853 Total

Cassel - 1720 Passing, 125 Rushing, 1845 Total

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6290847)
Yes.

Sanchez - 1791 Passing, 62 Rushing, 1853 Total

Cassel - 1720 Passing, 125 Rushing, 1845 Total

Excellent. I've been meaning to update my counter. Thanks!

stevieray 11-24-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6290884)
Excellent. I've been meaning to update my counter. Thanks!

blablahblah

Dartgod 11-24-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6288985)
The Steelers made mistakes that were do to mental errors more than anything KC did. Mike Wallace's fumble, the kick return TD, Roethlisburger throwing INT's right to your team. Those are mistakes the Steelers don't make. The Chiefs played horrible and had to get lucky to win. End of story.

Actually, they do make mistakes on kick coverage. Quite frequently as a matter of fact.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6290895)
blablahblah

Taking philosophy class from Hootie and Buster I see. Is that accredited?

Bunit 11-24-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6287376)
Whitlock is laying the groundwork for a graceful retreat from his character attacks against Haley. After being exposed for behaving petty and unprofessional he can't allow himself to be boxed in. That said, I applaud his attempt to be more objective, although he's more likely trying to give himself future wiggle room rather than acknowledge that his personal attacks were over the top and vindictive.

It struck me how those players standing next to Haley on the sidelines when the final whistle blew were giving him a lot of love. It doesn't appear to me that he's lost this team or that his players hate him. I think that reality is beginning to sink in with Whitlock forcing him to reevaluate his media campaign against Haley's character.


Yeah, I noticed that too and was pleasantly surprised how the players interacted with Haley after the final whistle blew. A couple of them were jumping on him and shit. I was like wtf, Whitlock said the players hate him (where's the sarcasm font). But Whitlock flipped his take completely from the last couple weeks to this one.

The Bad Guy 11-24-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 6290921)
Actually, they do make mistakes on kick coverage. Quite frequently as a matter of fact.

The Steelers have given up 8 return TDs this year.

Yeah, these sure aren't mistakes the Steelers make, right KnowMo

Hootie 11-24-2009 02:49 PM

Wow...

Looking at those yards right now...

If I were Vegas I'd set the odds like this:

Matt Cassel -360
Mark Sanchez +295

Anyone want to take bets?

LaChapelle 11-24-2009 05:05 PM

I think Haley wanted to beat the Steelers so bad after losing to them in the SB. He would have blown the right and wrong 53 and their fathers


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