Oh, so now not only are you Mel Kiper Jr, you're Vince Lombardi as well?

That's such a lovely argument to go to, unicorns and rainbows man since it's the Chiefs it'll work out right?

If the only argument you have for Todd Haley being a dipshit is that I'm not a coach then you can **** right off.

what the odds? is haley the only coach to do that? did they kick to him after the second td? did he get a third?
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sure you do. he played the averages and lost. of course hindsight is 20/20

ROFL

No wonder you 2 like Haley, you're as ****in stupid as he is.

ILChief was created with Rocky Dennis sperm

it happened 6 times in NFL history (player returned 2 kicks for TDs in the same game), so Haley did the right thing he just happened to have bad luck.

After he ran 1 back he should have never touched the ball again, but hey that makes to much sense I guess.

Yea all of Haleys dumb decisions are just bad luck, that's the ticket.

see why do you go there and just skip all my questions? oh yeah the answers dont support what you are saying.
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yeah, he's stupid. if he went to USC he's be brilliant

You are defending his awful decisions what do you want me to do, mail you a dunce cap for Christmas?

Is That why Mecca bashes Cassel, you putz?

funny you are calling people stupid and still cant figure out when to type to or too
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no he's made bad decisions, this just wasn't one of them.

ok now its time to tell us what you would do
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Yes critique my grammar, it's obviously extremely important to a debate about how Todd Haley coaches with his head up his ass.

I wouldn't be kicking off to the best returner in the league after he just torched my special teams I know that.

I consider that common ****ing sense.

you sticking up for your girlfriend?

I've left things in the toilet that are smarter than you.

Is Haley your girlfriend?

I think IL should try to explain how the Chiefs weren't completely embarrassed yesterday, that was pretty solid for a laugh.

You can be the biggest Chiefs fan in the world, it doesn't change what this team is and you wanting them to be something else doesn't change reality.

Too much facial hair for my liking :)

coming from the king of posts that have nothing to do with the topic this is ironic.

and if you are going to call someone stupid what do you expect?
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So you think Todd Haley is a good coach that makes proper decisions?

they weren't embarrassed because they lost by one score. If anything was embarrassing it was giving up almost 300 yards rushing. Not getting burned by kickoff returns.

I think it's too early to tell if he's a good coach.

They were both pretty embarassing, Cribbs and Harrison set a record for total yards of 2 players in a game.

i still havent seen you say exactly what you would have done.
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So he's just going to stop doing stupid shit magically 1 day?

You know to this point he's worse than Herm right?

Done in relation to what?

After 1 kickoff TD you don't kick him the ball again, it's simple shit.

no, he's not worse than Herm. He's a first year head coach. Herm had been a head coach for 8 years.

If he gets some talent to work with, I think Haley can be good.

so how would you have gone about accomplishing that? quit skirting the question
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it's easier to second guess on the internet after you know how the game turned out.

:facepalm:

You are to posting what Todd Haley is to head coaching.

No one is second guessing no one on this forum would have kicked off the same again in that game.

It's the same as his reeruned 4th down decisions.

seriously?

I know Mecca has a huge, throbbing CP-cock.. but are you honestly going to sit here and dome it off?

Are you honestly going to snog on some Mecca-boner?

I can't even decipher what you were trying to say in that first sentence. Try using punctuation, Mel Kiper III

Almost?

The end conclusion of this thread, ILChief thinks Todd Haley is doing a good job just cause.

great, now that you have that out of the way would you answer that question?

what would you do to make sure the guy who returned one kick for a td didnt get a second?
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I'm saying the complete lack of talent makes it near impossible to judge whether he is doing a good job or not.

Have fun pimping Adam Archuletta 2.0 on your avatar.

Not kick it to him.

Next question.

Why are you asking me a question you know the answer to, are you playing dumb or are you really dumb?

I'm not going to answer questions that a person with basic football knowledge knows the answer to.

No shit, it isn't rocket science.

I only said that like 5 times, I think Jason needs a diagram to understand.

Who was responsible for playing LJ in front of Charles?

Pioli AND Haley have shown a complete inability to evaluate talent. And Lance Long with the target.

Really so lack of talent is why you do a fake punt at your own 28 in a 1 score game?

so you would kick every ko out of bounds?
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And Jason wonders why he gets called stupid in threads.

yeah letting the other team start near midfield every time is a great idea.

NOTE: I KNOW FULL WELL HE RETURNED A SECOND KICK FOR A TD. The odds of that were slim. Shit happens.

you keep saying not kick to him. how would YOU accomplish that?
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that was a bad decision.

I bet IL is someone who voted for Oline on the Chiefs website.

depends on who's available when we pick.

You are a true Chiefs fan, Oline!

wow that really was relevant
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If you read that thread you'd understand.

The kicker should be able to execute better than that. After all, Succop is one of our two valuable pieces of evidence for progress.

But, yes, starting at the 40 would be better than sacrificing 14 points.

Count me as one who believes in the concept of continuity within an organization... and that a coach should be given a fair shot.

No one would say that Haley is doing a particularly good job this year, but the organization obviously believes he is capable of doing a good job in the near future.

I would rather give Haley the opportunity to learn from his mistakes (as a first year ****ing coach) than to undergo yet another god damn regime change.

Continuity.

In this rare instance, yes. but history wouldn't bear that out. Just because someone wins the lottery doesn't mean buying lottery tickets is a sound investment.

and that matters here how?

so back on point here.

if you were a hc of a team and a dangerous kr returns the opening ko for a td you would ko every time out of bounds from that point forward??
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To Jason saying don't kick the ball to Cribbs means kicking it out of bounds, I swear.

This is a futile effort and makes me wish ill upon him.

before yesterdays game i think we were pretty highly ranked on ST. not so much on D. which would you have trusted more?

starting at the 40 every drive would have been terrible.

we kicked to him after the second td, why didnt he get a third? our ST did what they were supposed to
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Here's the deal: the guy burned you once, really, really badly I might add. He humiliated your coverage unit.

Thus, you don't give him an opportunity to do it again.

This has nothing to do with luck, lightning, or lotteries, and everything to do with a complete lack of common sense from our HC. The same dumbass who called TO, ostensibly, to ensure that we had an opportunity to kick to Cribbs, again.

we kicked the ball away from him later. guess what? he still got to it, then we squibbed it and gave them great field position
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Look at Deez with a logical post explaining how this works.

What is the argument here Jason, that because the team sucks that excuses Haley doing stupid shit?

Haley has nothing to work with, and this causes him to act as though he's never watched a football game, much less coached one, on Sundays.

There. Is. No. Excuse.

Haley has been pathetic.

"We're running a business"?

If it means that Whitlock will have a stroke and the 4 horsemen will have another season of bitching and nitpicking....


Then I am all for it!

Spite, FTMFW.

I`m not sold on Haley...but not ready to give up on him either.

Are you for real?

The same guy who stated he was "proud" to watch the Chiefs under Haley for the first time in years?

This season has been nothing but a ****ing abortion. They don't know how to evaluate talent, they don't know how to coach and they don't know how to draft.

If Al Davis hadn't been hell-bent on proving that JaMarcus Russell was a true NFL QB, the Chiefs would be 2-12. If Polumalu & Roethisberger hadn't been injured, this team would be 1-13.

It's a ****ing joke.

Yet people defend them as if it's the 1980's 49er dynasty.

What a bunch of dumb****s.

They never got better field position than their own 30 on a kickoff. That isn't "great field position".

Well that FatTurd did beat us the first time.

Reerun is under the unfortunate misconception that haley is somehow better than Herm.

You can't be patient at all. They've had 14 games. That's the appropriate window for a GM/HC tandem.

TIME TO CUT BAIT.

Well, there went that excuse. Are we left with option B: Haley is a complete ****ing moron?

I just hope he's smart enough to fire his entire ****ing staff and bring in a competent DC and an inventive OC. If he isn't; then it's career suicide.