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Hootie 01-17-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6453488)
That's not being a game manager. You disagreed with it just yesterday.

I don't know how anyone could be that ****ing dumb.

I have always said Tom Brady is a great QB.

Always.

Best eyes in the NFL...looks off coverage better than anyone. Smart guy.

That said...he's not even in the same galaxy as Peyton Manning. Don't understand how everyone doesn't agree.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-17-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453509)
Just because you try your hardest to come up with clever insults doesn't mean your posts ever have any substance...

You know as well as I do that I was right all year long and that's why you "bumped" this thread...to try and save a little dignity.

I wish I could link you to the Tom Brady/Peyton Manning threads I used to go pages and pages and pages against others in 2003 on thedilly.com...but that board is gone...

I used to be the overwhelming minority...everyone referring to Peyton Manning as a choker...the only argument anyone ever had for Tom Brady was his "postseason success"...

what now?

Oh yeah...

Now it's...

Peyton Manning is a pussy who doesn't take hits and refuses to stand in the pocket and doesn't let his receivers finish their routes...

ROFL

Wow.

The last recourse of a defeated person is to argue against a non-existent point.

When have I ever said any of this?

When have you claimed that Brady was a HOF'er but just a game manager? A really good QB, but a choker? Well, turns out in this very thread and the one from yesterday.

Again, you are like one of the TV gambling gurus, who gives half his callers one team and the other half the other, then you claim that you're right.

You constantly contradict yourself, but you think that no one sees it. It's pathetic.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-17-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453511)
I have always said Tom Brady is a great QB.

Always.

Best eyes in the NFL...looks off coverage better than anyone. Smart guy.

That said...he's not even in the same galaxy as Peyton Manning. Don't understand how everyone doesn't agree.

You just said the Pats don't win if they ask him to do anything more than manage games.

That makes him, by definition, a game manager. Game managers are not great QBs.

You keep contradicting yourself.

dirk digler 01-17-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453482)

Man that Tony Romo sure is a choker.

I finally agree with Hootie. He had like 3 turnovers and no TD's in the biggest game of his career.

Hootie 01-17-2010 03:46 PM

I have always said Tom Brady was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

Always, always, always.

But I also think he is pretty much an over-glorified game manager. If someone is great at managing games and making plays if/when necessary...they can't be great QB's?

I also said QB choke jobs are myths...but since the only rebuttal for brady backers is Manning choke jobs...I just like to throw out all of the mediocre/bad playoff games brady has put up as well...because his easily match peytons.

Hootie 01-17-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6453529)
I finally agree with Hootie. He had like 3 turnovers and no TD's in the biggest game of his career.

you were just waiting and waiting and waiting...

hilarious..

you just keep sitting on that rail...if Romo wins the Super Bowl you don't say a word...but as soon as the Cowboys lose WA LA! here you are!

Hootie 01-17-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6453526)
You just said the Pats don't win if they ask him to do anything more than manage games.

That makes him, by definition, a game manager. Game managers are not great QBs.

You keep contradicting yourself.

they haven't won since they started featuring tom brady in the peyton manning role (of course tom never calls his own plays but...)

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-17-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453536)
I have always said Tom Brady was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

Always, always, always.

But I also think he is pretty much an over-glorified game manager. If someone is great at managing games and making plays if/when necessary...they can't be great QB's?

I also said QB choke jobs are myths...but since the only rebuttal for brady backers is Manning choke jobs...I just like to throw out all of the mediocre/bad playoff games brady has put up as well...because his easily match peytons.

So by that definition, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, and many of your other mancrushes can never be anything more than game managers.

Hootie 01-17-2010 03:52 PM

Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo both have higher ceilings than Tom Brady if you ask me...

Of course I'm on record ON THIS BOARD saying Aaron Rodgers was going to be an amazing NFL QB...before he even started 1 game.

They followed the right blueprint for him...

Back to my first sentence...

None of them will ever be thought of as better QB's than Tom Brady because of Super Bowl rings...which I personally think is a bullshit excuse to crown somebody...

Drew Bledsoe won the AFC Championship game in 2001...

Do we really think he couldn't have won that Super Bowl, too?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-17-2010 03:55 PM

I have no words.

dirk digler 01-17-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453540)
you were just waiting and waiting and waiting...

hilarious..

you just keep sitting on that rail...if Romo wins the Super Bowl you don't say a word...but as soon as the Cowboys lose WA LA! here you are!

I predicted the Cowboys to win so I wasn't rooting against him.

If Romo wins a SB then I will eat a shitload of crow. I am man enough to do that so quit crying.

But Romo played like shit today there is no getting around that.

whatsmynameagain 01-17-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6453594)
I predicted the Cowboys to win so I wasn't rooting against him.

If Romo wins a SB then I will eat a shitload of crow. I am man enough to do that so quit crying.

But Romo played like shit today there is no getting around that.

romo cant handle the big game, he doesnt have the intangibles like the top tier qbs do and once again he shit the bed and rolled around in it.
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BigMeatballDave 01-17-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6453295)
if we're going to paint every playoff loss as a choke...I'm going to reference Tom Brady...plain and simple.

He threw 1 whole TD pass in the entire 2001 postseason.

The guy is just so overrated it sickens me.

how can anyone watch him and watch peyton manning and come to the conclusion that Tom Brady is better?

That is insane.

You may be the most obtuse mother****er here. Over-all, Manning is the better QB. However, Manning has a history of shitting his pants in the play-offs.


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