My bad.

Point stands.

And I agree. The whole "Pioli isn't listening to our OC/DC" is bull$#it. I think that's exactly what he did, looking back...

I agree with you, however, Haley and Pioli must really like this kid and had to pull the trigger then. I'd imagine they probably didn't think they'd have to take him there.

np man

McCluster was an awfully weird selection by Pioli, no doubt about that. Seems more of a luxury type of pick when the Chiefs lack the meat and potatoes.

It's already said and done though. With that out of the way, Dexter McCluster is ****ing insane and brings much needed speed to a slow ass Chiefs team. In the long run, this will be a nice selection.

I just watched 8 minutes of the video presented, and I didn't see him do a single thing that Jamaal Charles doesn't already do, or couldn't do.

The only point that video makes is that we just used the 36th overall pick to take a smaller, slower version of a player we took in the 3rd round 2 years ago.

Again, Charles is a RB, McCluster is a WR. Different positions.

Because we're MOVING him there...

:spock: Well ****, why not just move Charles to WR and have Jones be RB? Do you realize that McCluster is a RB being converted by the Chiefs to WR?

actually he is a half back....we're going to turn him into an nfl wr

That's funny, I didn't see McCluster line up in the slot and run a route once.

So you're admitting he's a project.

Christ, even the Ole Miss fan admits he was rarely, if ever used in the slot.

It doesn't matter. He's not taking anything away from JC. They will be on the field at the same time.

If anything, think of the proposition of having 2 Jamaal Charles' on the field together, if you want to make that comparison so badly.

Albert was a guard and got converted and everyone seems to be okay with that, so why not McCluster?

Doesn't matter. Don't compare him to Charles. Whether I think it's the right call or you or anyone else, he will be used differently in this offense.

That isn't helping your argument.

Do we want two Cassels out there?

Hell, I'm not sure I'd like having two Bowe's out there...

Because LT is more valuable than LG and Albert had the skill set for it. We didn't have an LT. We have WR's and we have RB's.

because switching positions on the OL is obviously different than switching from RB to WR


the former happens all the time on every team in the nfl

the latter rarely ever happens



did you really need to be told that or are you playing dumb again?

Not even the same ballpark...

You know what we need two of?

OLB.

And ILB.

JFC, there is a shit ton of negativity in this thread.

The guy is a play maker. A ****ING PLAYMAKER!

Who here doesn't want offensive or defensive playmakers?

Come on, guys!

I'm not making the comparison, but if it's going to be made, at least he's being compared with the best player on our offense.

Your analysis blows.

but he's a MIDGET!!!!!!

I wanted defensive playmakers.

They passed on 10 of them. All at positions we needed starters at. Instead, we take guys that fill the 3-deep at their respective positions.



Everson Griffen
Daryl Washington
Koa Misi
Sergio Kindle
Linval Joseph
Sean Lee
Terrence Cody
Major Wright
Chad Jones
Donald Butler

we're discussing the reality of it and you just want to put your fingers in your ears and scream 'playmaker!'


sorry, but that doesn't make it smart

Great.

Tell me what he did in that clip, or did in any other game that Jammal Charles can't do.

I'll wait.

Come on, Dude. Anyone can play that game.

They ****ED UP last year. They wouldn't need a guy like McCluster if they'd have taken Harvin #3 or Cushing or Matthews, etc.

At least they addressed team players, team speed and productive college players.

This team sucked ****ing ass before Thursday.

Hopefully, they just got a little better.

We took a class very very deep in defensive playmakers and turned it into slot WR project and backup CB.

I'll play.

What if you have TWO GUYS that are like Jamal Charles, on the field, at the same time?

Wow, the butthurt is strong with a few in this thread.

Without reading all 12 pages I checked to see how he was ranked at CBS & some other site & they both had him ranked in the WR category, not RB.

And I might add @ CBS he was their #5 guy.

****!

That felt good.

You're wrong because they're not projects. They may seem to be projects to you, but they're not.

And quite frankly, who's to say at this point that Cody in KC or any of the other LBer's would immediately contribute and making winning plays next year?

This draft so far is six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Wait a second...

IS THIS OPTIMISM FROM DANE MCCLOUD?

I don't disagree with you in that there may have been other options, but "3-deep" may be more important than you're making it out to be, when on offense we're likely to be running a lot of 3-wide sets, paired with the amount of nickel that's run in the NFL these days. In other words, our nickel corner and slot receivers are starters for all intents and purposes. These aren't guys who are going to be on the bench 75% of the time. Unless of course they're not good enough get on the field to begin with.

Wait, I thought he was a WR now?...:evil:

****, I feel like Hootie.

Dane vs. the Drafturbators.

Who do YOU think will win?

:D

"Stupid ass Pioli. Liking Jamaal Charles so much he decided to draft another player that brings the explosiveness that he does to the table."

I know it's a foreign concept in Kansas City, but teams usually decide they like to have more than one good player. Shocking shit, eh?

As a fan of a team with a super high charged offense (Saints) I personally enjoy having playmakers all over the place. Can never have enough.

I get that the team needed defense, but at least you got an extra stud on offense. Could be worse.

I think he's stoned. fucking Cali and its "medical" marijuana.

They didn't need McCluster regardless of who they took or didn't take last year.

There was nothing wrong with the offense, other than the goddamn QB.

You can't say that about the defense.

As bad as Cassel was last year, with a competent defense, they go 8-8.

This is what our defense could have looked like after tonight:

Jackson - Cody/Joseph - Dorsey

Kindle/Misi - Butler/Washington - DJ - Hali

Carr - Berry - Wright/Jones - Flowers

You don't know me.

You only think you do.

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There's only one ****ing ball, Dane.

There are no winners, just dead bodies. LMAO

I think that's exactly what they're saying due to how high they were picked.

And it scares me. The idea that the middle of our defense (the weakest link) will be exposed most of the day scares the hell out of me.

Perhaps even more than drafting a TE who can't block to pair with a QB who loves to take sacks...

LOL

omg

So we only need one player, right?

You are one stupid son of a bitch.

Since when did the 'baters become the true fans, and vice versa?

i was down on the 2nd round at first. I am still having a hard time with Gilbert Jabari Jamon Arenas. Dexter Mac has grown on me like a dreadlock. KC needs some gamebreakers. If Dmac was drafted as a special teamer and rb, it is a fail. As a slot, this could be very good for us. I was impressed with his change of direction. He will be hard to guard in space. Arenas is the guy going to guard slot players. I guess they are tired of Gafney schooling us. I am obviously still worried about stopping the run. I guess a big mlb could go a long ways there. It depends on what the chiefs think of their d line. Clancy was a joke of a coordinator and pioli hinted tonight the schemes did not put players in good positions. Maybe Magee and Jackson have improved this offseason. Maybe the chiefs do not want to throw more high picks and big money at the d line. Maybe I have had a few drinks.

I give this draft a B+.

Berry = stud
Dexter = gamebreaker as a wr. no great wrs in this draft.
Arenas - ??? wtf
Asamoah = who cant like a stud scholar athlete. this seems like a lock
Moeaki = shoot me but i watched some clips of him and he looks great. WAY better than cottam.

All these guys are good tough guys.

I'm not the dumbass who just used the 36th overall pick on a RB he wants to convert to a slot WR.

Just ignore me, I wouldn't want to interrupt the rimjob you're giving Pioli at the moment.

**** I love draft day...LMAO

WHOA!

It's ****ing Chaos!

The battle lines have changed instantly!


Dogs and Cats living together, Mass Hysteria!

I'd rather not. Cry more bitch Q_Q

LMAO so there cannot be 2 alike playmakers on the field at the same time?

Shit. I can't tell who is the True Fan, and who is the Drafturbator.....The world is ending....

I bet the Vikings are really kicking themselves for taking a converted RB and making him a WR.

Dude, I don't have much more time tonight but FFS, there was a SHIT TON wrong with the offense.

No perimeter playmakers (Bowe was a mental **** last year), Chambers is/was a short term solution, no one makes catches over the middle and the line sucked ass.

I NOW have hope for the line and there's more yet to come. Albert/Asamoah/Weigman/Brown/O'C is a HUGE upgrade over last year.

McCluster brings playmaking ability that was sorely lacking outside of Charles.

Look at the rankings: Like 28th offensively and 30th defensively.

They suck. And this being an offensive league, I'm fine with the selections.

This isn't going to be a quick rebuild.

Don't cross the streams Ray!

http://marriageconfessions.files.wor...mallow-man.jpg

ROFL

I'm with you. Hell, I'm the guy that was pushing Rolando McClain as a viable alternative to Berry. I guess they like Belcher and Mays and Williams a lot more than I do.

LMAO

Truefturbator?!

I have no idea how to judge this pick. We'll wait and see. But it doesn't make sense to judge him based on what Charles can do. Thomas Jones is here for one year. After this season, we need a second back.

My preference all offseason was for Sproles.

I've heard everyone say that McCluster is purely a slot receiver. It sounds to me that they have him listed as a receiver. I haven't seen anything that suggests they're married to him being a full-time receiver.

If he bulks up, I see no reason why he couldn't be a slot receiver in 4-5 receiver sets, a 3rd down back, and just a guy to take a carry or two away from Charles.

We have yet to see. But for all the bitching, I've yet to find a source that doesn't think he was picked at about the right value at the pick.

I know I'll get blasted for this but I have more faith in Mays than DJ...

Of course there can. You're missing the point.

You guys are acting as if he was the BPA. He wasn't.

Or that we don't have Jamaal Charles. We do.

Or that we have solid starters on the front seven, specifically at LB. We don't.

So, while I love Jamaal Charles, I think it's an incredible waste of resources to take his smaller clone in a draft where there are impact players at positions of desperate need staring you in the face at each pick.

Oh Damn. A new word....

You would be amazed at how many people agree.


DJ ****ing wiffs on too many tackles and is out of position all the time.


Mays strengths are DJ's weaknesses and vice-versa.

So what are you projecting McCluster to do in his rookie season? I'll make a bet and take the over.

Nah, certainly someone can do better than that.

The Vikings didn't have gaping holes on their roster, did they?

They could afford a luxury pick.

And comparing McCluster to Harvin as a WR in college is just absurd.

I'll go with fluffer. No reason, really. I just like that word.

When the defense is getting gashed by Jerome Harrison type players next year at least you'll be happy grandpa's offense is back. Minus the mid tier quarterback of course.

Hey we lost, but we scored 40! That's improvement!

I don't think I'd disagree at this point. I wasn't one of the people clamoring for DJ to be on the field last year. He was on the bench for a reason. All the talent in the world doesn't mean a thing if you're missing all your assignments.

Seriously.

So do you not agree that Crennel is better than whatever shit we had at DC last year? You don't think that's an improvement in itself?

our lb core is pretty much all ass

I think that's debatable. We've all heard about Philly and Kiper had him in his Top Ten when the Chiefs chose.

Again, I expected them to shore up the middle of the defense but they chose to go with an offensive playmaker. I couldn't give a shit about 10 spots IF they get a playmaker.

And for whatever reason, they didn't think the defensive player was the right choice. Time will tell if they're right or wrong but I can't find them "wrong" for choosing a proven leader and playmaker.

Back to Vermeil's teams.


Give me a shotgun and I will paint you a pretty, red picture.

I'm just glad we have Eric Berry to limit them to 8 yard runs instead of 18.

theres no way this offense would be as good as vermeils, now youre just pulling my chain TRUE FAN