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I'd like to add to the list a few guys that should EVENTUALLY get a shot at the NFL level and I would love to see with the Chiefs in some capacity.
Kevin Sumlin - still needs a few years of success as head coach at a major program Brady Hoke - needs to keep on the path he started this year... if U-M is back to being in the title hunt for the next couple years, he'll be in high demand. I already mentioned Will Muschamp |
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It could EASILY be argued that he is the best coach in the NFL this year. I would kill to get the next Jim Harbaugh. |
Harbaugh's kind of a different story, though. He was just resume building in the college ranks.
Most of these guys crash and burn in the NFL is all I'm saying. |
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Bob Stoops.
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With Sparano out -- I'm wondering if the Chiefs & Dolphins might be after the same coach -- Also, what better way than to get a jump on the competition.
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I'll take a college coach over a guy who's been sitting in front of a camera the last few years any day. I have to think it's been too long for some of these guys (Gruden, Billick, Cowher). Their stamina and desire are gone now.
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Has anybody mentioned Tom Cable? His players seemed to respect him before he got ****ed over by Al Davis. Maybe he would want to get revenge on his old team?
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Who will replace Todd Haley?
As is tradition, when an NFL coach is "relieved of his duties," like Todd Haley was on Monday, we'll plow through a list of potential candidates to replace said coach. The Chiefs search is a little different though, because it's widely assumed that Scott Pioli will chase a "Patriots Guy," which is someone with, duh, connections to the Bill Belichick coaching tree. The success of the next Chiefs coach will likely determine whether or not Pioli continues at the helm of the Chiefs, and thus it would be surprising to see him go in a different direction and hire someone he wasn't truly confident could succeed. Romeo Crennel Crennel's going to be running the team for the final three games of the 2011 season, and it's possible that Scott Pioli would be comfortable with Crennel as the full-time coach going forward. After all, Romeo was the defensive coordinator for championship-caliber teams in New England when Pioli was working for the Patriots, and Crennel's got head-coaching experience with the Browns. That wasn't the most successful tenure, but, hey, neither was Bill Belichick's first gig in Cleveland either. Josh McDaniels McDaniels was canned in Denver and took over as Offensive Coordinator for the Rams this past season. His star has fallen mightily from the 6-0 start with the Broncos in 2009 to the 2-10 effort the Rams have put forth so far in 2011 and the regression St. Louis has shown on offense. McDaniels real downfall in Denver, though, was his personnel decisions (although you could argue he made some smart calls after all) and he wouldn't have to worry about that in KC. At the very least, he'll warrant strong consideration as offensive coordinator for his old boss Pioli. (Added bonus: Haley hates him!) Kirk Ferentz My buddy Nathan and I have a running joke about how Ferentz is the hottest coaching candidate on the planet every year (seriously: his name gets dropped into every single coaching search at every single level of football) but never even considers leaving Iowa. This is actually one gig that could truly entice him to make the jump to the NFL, though, as he and Pioli go way back to the early 90's when they worked together in Cleveland and Baltimore. Plus, you never know -- he could be the AFC's version of Jim Harbaugh! Jeff Fisher Fisher's going to be one of the hotter names in most coaching searches this offseason, because of all the success he had in Tennessee, and the fact that he ultimately just left because he and Bud Adams couldn't really agree on Vince Young. Or something. The Chiefs have a lot of cap room and their roster actually resembles the construction of his Titans teams the last few years he was there. Bill Cowher Little-known fact about all NFL coaching searches: you must include Cowher's name or else it's not complete. Also, Cowher coached in Kansas City for two years and apparently loves it there. So I'm changing my tune from earlier when I didn't include Cowher. I still don't think he's the answer here, though, because Pioli isn't going to just hand over a pile of player-personnel power to Cowher and it's widely believed that's something he'll require. Rob Ryan Ryan's refusal to cut his hair and stop running his mouth prior to games has hurt his reputation as a strong candidate to succeed at the head-coaching level, but he's done good work with the Cowboys defense this season and his track record as a defensive coach is pretty damn impressive. He also worked for the Patriots (linebackers coach for three years) and given how much Rex Ryan's succeeded in New York, it's hard to ignore the possibility of success by the other sibling. On the other hand, given the tenuous nature of Pioli's relationship with the fiery Todd Haley, he may want to avoid a big personality with this hire. Brian Daboll Daboll was brought to the Dolphins in 2011 to revamp the Fins offense, and while Miami isn't the most high-powered offense in the NFL, the rejuvenation of Reggie Bush and the late-season success of Matt Moore is impressive. Daboll's offenses haven't ever finished in the top half of the NFL -- he was quarterbacks coach of the Jets in 2007 and 2008 and offensive coordinator of the Browns in 2009 and 2010 -- but he hasn't exactly been working with the same personnel you might find on the 1999 Rams or anything. No head coaching experience probably makes this a dealbreaker, but he could warrant consideration as an assistant. Eric Mangini But, no, seriously. Mangini's been known to have interest in returning to the NFL and as recently the past month he's been rumored as someone who might come in as a consultant for various teams. He's currently working for ESPN (and is actually doing a fantastic job, in my humble opinion), and may have burned bridges with comments he made about the Patriots while working as the Jets head coach. But people forget he did a pretty good job there of rebuilding the Gang Green before struggling in a rebuild job in Cleveland. Pat Hill Hill, the recently-fired Fresno State coach, is a bit of a darkhorse, especially since "getting fired by a non-BCS school where you've been since 1997" isn't usually the career step taken before "getting hired to take over an NFL team." But again, he's part of the Belichick tree, so it's impossible to count him out completely. http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/33836874 |
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For those holding their breath on Cowher/Gruden, there's almost no chance Pioli would bring in someone who wouldn't defer to him. 38 seconds ago FavoriteRetweetReply kentbabbKent Babb Ferentz, maybe, but that has to be a long shot. He's had a gazillion opportunities, though not with his BFF Pioli. 2 minutes ago kentbabbKent Babb Sadly for John Q. Chiefs Fan, I think the chances are far better of McDaniels getting the job than a Cowher/Gruden. |
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I actually do think Fisher to KC is possible. He seems to make the most sense to me. Don't know how he'd coexist w/Pioli, though. |
Pioli has an ego, but he also knows he can't hire unproven again, McDaniels would be too much like Haley part II, and the fail factor is high. He's got to at least create a steady atmosphere with the next hire. Cowher would want to be GM as well as coach. Fisher makes a lot of sense, actually so does Crennel, but the public relation hit on hiring in house would hurt.
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Our next coach will be Crennel. Stone cold lock. He will be Pioli's yes man.
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Plus I think Crennel would have to go 3-0 the rest of the way (not happening) to get the job.
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I know I am in the minority here, but I think firing Haley was a mistake and will only set the team back a few years depending upon the coach we hire. Crennel doesn't bother me and I think he can actually be a good head coach. He did get our defense to play at a high level despite the talent and injuries.
It's a shame to put the blame on Haley considering we lost 2 Pro Bowlers and our starting TE before the end of the first game. And then the last few weeks, we lost our starting QB. We also had to play our 3rd string RB for most of the season. Head coaching changes usually set a team back a couple of years. The good thing is, whomever the coach is will be handed a young team with good potential. If Charles, Berry, and Moeki return in great condition, we good be a very good team again. I've always like Crennel and wouldn't be displeased to see what kind of staff he brings in. Fisher would be a great head coach because I've always liked how he was willing to try anything to win a game and often did interesting and surprising plays to catch the opponents off guard. He would also command the respect of the players. I still think Haley deserved another season to see what he can do with a team that has progressed and wasn't crushed by so many injuries and such a tough schedule. But, this is a league where everyone wants to win NOW and when things go bad, the head coach is the first one to get whacked. I wish Haley the best of luck. |
How does firing Haley set the team back when Haley hadn't installed anything on offense that was remotely stable? We have no system.
The Broncos fired McDaniels and weren't set back a tick. |
I really wish someone would just take a damn axe to the tree. I hate the tree...
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I'd love to draft a QB and bring in Reid if Philly is dumb enough to let him take the fall.
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It’s a lot easier to simply throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. But all of these views mean the real information never gets out. That said: "PR Firm and publicist": http://www.athletepromotions.com/ath...king-agent.php Just my opinion |
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My dad was listening to 810 on the way home from work. He said that they had an inside source who said pioli is to meet with fischers agent next week... i dont listen to 810 because of speculated shit like this. Did anyone else hear this or is my old man losing it?
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I'd take Fischer.
Not exactly the greatest of all choices, but if Babb is insisting it'd be either him or McDaniels, Im taking Fischer if I were the Chiefs. |
I'm not jumping up and down over Fischer but I'd be ok with it. He's much better than the other names I'm hearing mentioned.
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What about Jeff Fisher?
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Dave Wannstedt
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Isn't likely Pioli already knows who is going to hire? Of course, we don't know how that is, but is there really going to be a search? If Pioli already has an informal agreement, it's either going to be McDaniels, Ferentz, or Crennel.
This is Pioli's last hire if unsuccessful. He's going to hire someone who knows he can get along with. |
don't flame here; honest question/opinions.
Would Clark (or Pioli...whoever the F is running the show) consider college coaches? if so, who? I'm excluding Ferentz because I don't think he's in the running. Would Stoops be a good hire? or Les Miles? etc.. I think, locally, Stoops would stir up alot of buzz. Compound that with the possibility of drafting a QB etc. Admitedly, however, I don't know much about Stoops' team / coaching characteristics etc. |
Anyone else think Saban got a raw deal in Miami? He and Pioli obviously see eye-to-eye. Plus he has insight into arguably the most talented program in the country.
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Why do people think Saban would leave Alabama for the Chiefs? Really? REALLY? Alabama will be Sabans final stop as a coach. |
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This is not who I am endorsing at this time, but I think this one could be interesting based on what has happened in Carolina going from the worst offense in the NFL last season to one of the most prolific offenses this season. And this would require the Chiefs to go all in on RGIII...
Rob Chudzinski Rob Chudzinski followed head coach Ron Rivera from the San Diego Chargers to Carolina to be the Panthers' offensive coordinator. In 17 previous seasons as an NFL and college assistant, he has had success leading offenses and earned a reputation for developing tight ends. As the Chargers' tight ends and assistant head coach in 2010, Chudzinski helped San Diego rank first in the NFL in total offense with an average of 395.6 yards per game and second in scoring with an average of 27.6 points per game. Tight end Antonio Gates excelled during both of Chudzinski's two-year stints on the Chargers coaching staff from 2005-06 and 2009-10. Gates made his seventh consecutive Pro Bowl last season, one year after producing a career-high 1,157 yards. In 2005, Chudzinski's first season as San Diego's tight ends coach, Gates registered the only other 1,000-yard receiving season of his career with 1,101 yards on a career-high 89 receptions. In between Chudzinski's stints with the Chargers, he served as the Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator for two seasons. In 2007, the Browns won 10 games - their most wins since 1994 - and Chudzinski's offense played a key role in the team's success. Cleveland ranked eighth in the league in total offense and scoring, accumulating 5,621 net yards and 402 points. Four players went to the Pro Bowl: quarterback Derek Anderson, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, tackle Joe Thomas and tight end Kellen Winslow II. Anderson threw 29 touchdowns, while Edwards and Winslow combined with running back Jamal Lewis to give the Browns two 1,000-yard receivers and a 1,000-yard rusher. Chudzinski began his pro coaching career as Cleveland's tight ends coach in 2004 and worked with Winslow, the team's top draft choice. He was elevated to offensive coordinator for the final five games of the season under interim head coach Terry Robiskie after the resignation of head coach Butch Davis. From 1994-2003, Chudzinski spent 10 years as an assistant at his alma mater, the University of Miami (Fla.): three seasons as offensive coordinator, five as tight ends coach and two as a graduate assistant. During his three years as offensive coordinator, he guided a unit that went 12-0 and won the national championship in 2001 and set school records for points, total yards and rushing touchdowns the next season. In addition, Chudzinski worked with numerous future NFL players, including them wide receiver Andre Johnson, running backs Frank Gore, Willis McGahee and Clinton Portis, tackle Bryant McKinnie and quarterback Ken Dorsey. Promoted from graduate assistant to tight ends coach in 1996, Miami's tight ends flourished under Chudzinski's tutelage. He mentored Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey and Winslow, all of whom were All-Americans and became first-round draft picks and Pro Bowl players in the NFL. PLAYING AND PERSONAL A three-year starter at tight end for Miami (Fla.) from 1986-90, Chudzinski played on national championship teams in 1987 and 1989. He earned a bachelor's degree in business administration in 1990 and added a master's degree in business administration in 1996. Chudzinski and his wife, Sheila, have two sons, Kaelan and Rian, and a daughter, Margaret. HISTORY Tight end Miami (Fla.) 1986-90. College coach: Miami (Fla.) 1994-2003. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 2004, 2007-08, San Diego Chargers 2005-06, 2009-10, joined Panthers in 2011. |
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Also, I've got some GREAT news for # Chiefs fans on the coaching search... and some disheartening news. Gotta save that for 2pm, though. |
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No Chuck Pagano on the list?
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Cam Cameron? Nick Saban? Let's keep piling on miami retreads.
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Bill Snyder?
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If I had to pick a guy right now, it would be this guy. Earlier this season his name kept getting mentioned by SD's press. I heard that he was heavily involved in SD's offense and Norv depended on him a lot. Some beat writers around here were claiming that he was a huge loss and had a lot to do with River's success last season. |
Chudzinski was Romeo's OC for two years in Cleveland. Year 1 went well. Year 2 was the year they all got fired.
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Josh McDaniels is not in the running.
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Chiefs only want to pay the new coach about 3 million a year.
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possibly, but equally possible their desire and energy is recharged.... |
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Ferentz... I'm duhn.
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Updated the thread header with the Nick Wright report.
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What do you guys think of Kevin Gilbride?
He has done really well in NY with a lot of different players coming and going. Turned Eli into a good QB. |
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You heard anything lately Frank?
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some more talk about Ferentz to KC
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2...-after-juco-qb http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/823783/ferentzKC.JPG |
I pray to Tebow that Jeff Fischer will be our next head coach. The Clarks just need to pony up and pay him what he wants!
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This is Pioli's job if he doesn't get this hire right....
Ferentz i dont see whats so special about this guy besides being buddies. Pay Fisher, he is likely the best guy out there |
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