Steve Bono Grbac Cassel Green Flynn can get bent....i don't have a ****ing clue why anyone would want to bank our franchise on him...

I won't be upset to get Landry Jones at all. Provided we don't reach. And I've been calling hype on RG3 much to angry opposition here. His accuracy and ability to fit the ball in tight locations, based on MY eye test, is sadly lacking. In the games I have watched him HE was the one who overthrew his opponents and displayed a fairly slow release.

This. He only completed passes to ridiculously wide open receivers and missed almost all tight coverage passes.

That makes sense. I admit, a lot of what I have seen from Barkley was from earlier on in the year. As mentioned, I watched the Stanford game and thought he threw the ball well, but still thought his feet looked slow and his release was slow. I watched another USC vs. an inferior opponent (I think it was Duke) and although the stats probably won't show it, I thought some of his throws in that game were atrocious, especially earlier on in the game. It does make me feel better about him considering he has looked better in more recent games. I didn't see the UCLA game, but saw him interviewed by Rome and it sounds as if he and the whole USC team did well. If anything, by watching USC, I noticed how good those young receivers are....along with Matt Kalil.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ft-evaluation/

Matt Barkley files for draft evaluation
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 1, 2011, 8:58 AM EST

USC quarterback Matt Barkley has submitted paperwork to the NFL draft advisory board to help him decide whether he’ll go pro this year, according to ESPNLosAngeles.com.

This is a normal procedure, but it’s the logical next step for the USC junior. Barkley joined NBC SportsTalk on Thursday and admitted that he’s “possibly” played his last game at USC.

Mike Mayock joined Peter King’s NFL podcast this week that Barkley was better than he expected. Mayock pointed out that Barkley does a great job making quick decisions, while avoiding sacks and interceptions despite playing behind a mediocre offensive line.

Mayock said Barkley’s physical skill set isn’t overwhelming, but he looks like a first round pick. Barkley was compared to a more “polished” Andy Dalton coming out of school.

Considering the sanctions against USC, we’d guess that Barkley will go pro if the draft advisory board agrees with Mayock as expected and says Barkley’s a first round pick.

:) A lot of preferences seem to be based on which games people watched. When I watched Baylor the couple times I did this year combined with the highlights, RG3 was spot on. However, I don't doubt for a second that both of you have seen him in games where he played sloppy and overthrew receivers... there wouldn't be any reason to make that up. It makes me wish I had the time and access to watch every one of the games played by these potential franchise QB's so I could form more of an accurate opinion.

For some reason, I keep thinking there is a sleeper pick in there that may succeed moreso than these other prospects.

I don't know what it is about Landry Jones that reminds me of Cassel... his mechanics, his release, I don't know... but I got a sick feeling in my gut when I first watched the guy play because my first thought was, Cassel. Haha, how sad is that? Mere flashes of Cassel in another player can give Chief fans a sick feeling in their guts. To Landry's defense though, I didn't see him pull the infamous Cassel-crappage when he was under pressure.

Here's the deal with Landry - he looks the part. Good size, pocket passer and he has a really good arm. But, and I don't know if it is because of his mental makeup, or conservative coaching, or a combo of both - he doesn't trust or have confidence in his arm. He doesn't try to fit the ball in tight places. He doesn't look as smooth as Barkley or Griffin under pressure.

Kyle ****ing Orton is now the best QB on our roster.

How the **** could we NOT have a better option at QB on the board when we pick?...

The Chiefs need to stop being a scared organization. The safe choice isn't going to work for us.

Totally agree with that. I see so many fans saying we need more depth. Well, that is true but if we had a good QB, it would certainly make up for the lack of depth in our offense.

As for the defense, we lack depth at certain positions but as we`ve seen this year, it`s really not that bad overall as our defense without Berry has played good despite being on the field all the time.

When healthy and with a good QB this team would look really good. Of course if Houston doesn't keep progressing we will need more pass rush, as well as a NT of the future and a RT, but overall its looking pretty damn good with a QB.

With the money we have and draft, fixing the QB gives us a much clearer picture of what we need to fix. Not to mention how much better an offense looks with a good QB. With Cassel, we need the rest of our offense to be great. With a good QB, you don't need a top 3 oline and top 3 set of weapons, even though with a new RT, we look pretty good with both.

Even with Berry out, little pass rush outside of Hali, and only an aged Gregg, our D looks pretty damn good. Just having a solid O with that makes the D better with no other changes.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/01...cks-since.html


After seeing this i hope there is a QB there.

**** this shit. If they think the QBOTF isn't going to be there you trade up. Not every team in front of us is going to be looking for a QB.

Even if thats the case, teams behind us will be. Whats more likely to happen....MIA or WAS trading up or us doing so? Unless we finish 2nd or 3rd in the draft there are multiple reasons why a QB won't be there for us.

The dog is my QB.

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LMAO

The only reason there's no QB available to us is because we refuse to trade up. That's it.

That could very well be true. Do you doubt that we would refuse to trade up?

I'm clinging to the fact that since Pioli has been here there hasn't been a qb that he really likes so he hasn't drafted one high. This year is gonna be different.

I don't think its unreasonable to think that. Reality is in NE he never really had to look for a QB since they lucked into Brady. If you say alright Pioli believed in Cassel but isn't a complete moron, this would be the season he would have to take a QB.

I am still giving him the benifit of the doubt with the roster ect, this offseason is the line though. If he doesn't get a QB and address the other 3 spots we need I am going to offically give up. Hell, if he just gets a QB I will be fine with it. I just can't believe 100% he will get a QB because I can't take the heartbreak if I am expecting it to come.

What other 3 spots you thinking? RT, NT and ....

I pray that Pioli's expectations in the draft aren't too far from ours. I'd admire him if he moves up to get his QB and help me understand why he was one of the masterminds at NE. On the other hand, pure devastation if he doesn't. This is one of the biggest and exciting draft of finally landing our QBOTF and to really see if this organization wants to head anywhere.

DE

Well I guess its really just a focus on 2 if Houston keeps improving. There are questions with our front 7 but at the same time they are good enough if Houston/Hali can get pressure and our Offense can control the ball. Houston does need to improve though because the teams that focus on doubling Hali like Miami have had great success. The last two games the pressure has looked a lot better.

We have attacked better the last two games.

Don't need DE's especially with our scheme. We probably need depth there but Dorsey and Jackson are good players.

Jackson has gotten much better, especially against the run. I would prefer to get a vet NT to fill out that front 7 but you can't force it.

Gordon has played pretty well at NT. IF big IF Powe came along it would be great. there are some really good NT prospects in this eyras draft as well.

He still hasn't dressed for a game has he? If they let Mims play RT for a game or two and he looked nasty it would be an awesome thing as well. Doubt they give him the chance, let alone him being ready.

POwe played in NE.


I really hope MIms works out. He's my next door neighbor and he's a really cool dude. Just talked to him yesterday and congratulated him on the signing.

You should try a swim move to get by him in the hallway and see how he handles it.

I didn't even see Powe against NE. Guess I was too busy getting mocked by my friend who is a Pats fan. I usually watch the game multiple times with the Directv shortcuts but its hard to do that with this team right now.

Yeah. He played alright dunno how many snaps tho.


We took David some cookies a month or so ago and talked to him for a while. He's a nice guy. Justin Houston was here two weeks ago. Talked to him for a little while in the driveway. Pretty cool.


Anyway, it would be pretty awesome if a practice squad unsigned free agent worked out for us.

I know this is 3-4, but when is the last time you saw them in the backfield? I personally think Dorsey will be traded in the off season.

Package Dorsey to move up and get our QB, Pioli.

Anyone care to speculate on Dorsey's worth?

A 4th - 5th round pick.

Jackson has actually had a pretty good year. Nowhere near good enough to justify where we picked him, but for a 3-4 end he hasn't been bad

You're not going to see them in the backfield. Get used to it.

Especially when Kelly Gregg is so bad that they're double-teaming TYSON JACKSON.

There was one play where I saw them double BOTH ends and block Gregg with the RB...

So much fail...can't bear it...

When you're the highest paid GM in football you can build a champion without a QB on offense or a NT on defense. Duh.

2013

I understand your point. And TyJax may very well end up a usable DE for us. But Dorsey, it's increasingly obvious, is a square peg we are trying to fit in a round hole. I don't accept the 4th or 5th round trade worth for him. I think he'll be more valuable than that to a 4-3 team.

This is what scares me the most. Pioli deciding he knows better than everyone else and going in a completely unexpected direction (TJ anyone?) and we wind up with someone who can't beat out Cassel.

So, it occured to me... You could do some awesome things, schematically speaking, with Coples as a 3-4 DE.

Oh...it's there.

Love this cover. LMAO

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Why?

My god I'm tired of shit trash at qb in KC. I'd almost be onboard with trading Bowe, all draft picks, whatever I had to to the Colts to get Luck.

I'm all against trading Bowe to move up for guys like Barkley, and Griffin. But I'd have no problem trading Bowe if it meant we could have Luck.

Umm...

NEITHER!

:(:Lin:

That's what I mean. Clay hates Pioli/Haley/Cassel so much he'd like us to burn everything and start all over on a new 30 year plan AGAIN.

Dumping Haley and Cassel isn't starting over.

We will need to start over if Pioli blows the final two years of his contract, though.

Hard facts of life in the NFL.

Replacing Cassel = (+)

Dumping Haley = (-)

Link?

This is an easy question to answer.

You don't wait to see if your qb of the future is there when you pick. You make sure he is. If there is a guy the Chiefs really like trade up and get the guy.

Probably won't happen though.