Sadly, I feel we will be waiting a while :(

LMAO

Well, maybe for most teams but definately not the Chiefs.

When is the last time they had a good right tackle?

And how often have they tried to address the position but failed miserably?

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Chief fans have way too much obession over offensive lineman.

It is in KC. They haven't had a good RT since Tait left in 2003.

Chief fans have way too much obession over quarterbacks.

NTTAWWT

Who were the Right Tackles on the last 5 Super Bowl winning teams? It really isn't a position to give much a **** about.

Colbert was cut to sign Orton.

Cassel went to IR so they could continue shuffling Becht and Tucker.

2003 is still 30-plus years SOONER since we've seen a real franchise QB in this town.

What's your point? They both need to be upgraded.

As they should, its the only positon that matters in the NFL.

Please. Thats one of the most absurd things I've heard.

It's part of the offensive line and every position on the offensive line is important.

I'd reccommend that you go back, rewind the tapes of past Chiefs games and just see how Richardson is a revolving door and couldn't pass protect if his life depended on it.

He is a big part of the reason why the Chiefs offense is at the basement in passing offense every year.

*Pass protection bro. Chiefs lack it.

*W/ no pass protection its harder to develop a passing game.

We have a true fan alert. True fan alert.

It is one of the most important positions, no doubt.

But I can't understand why some close their minds to other positions?

Football is a team game. Every position has value. Okay maybe some have more impact than others, but still....can't treat other positions like they are a grain of salt either.

FYP.

Most fans don't keep up with Offensive Linemen around the league.

Yep
its like the Field of Dreams, if you build it, they will come.

if you have a QB your chances of winning will come.

A good quarterback would make this line look great.
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Absolutely. The O-Line is like a team within a team. You have to have guys who are at least serviceable at each position and one or two impact players. Then they have to play together over a period of time to develop chemistry. The O-Line positions aren't like any other in football in that regard.

Yet RT is a revolving down that continuously gives up pressures and hits on our QB's. Yeah, not a need at all.....

A good line will make a mediocre QB look great, and allow you to run the ball.

First hand experience right here, listen to the man.

LMAO Matt Cassel and Tyler Palko...that is why the Chiefs are 30th in passing.

Also true. But that doesn't mean we should neglect the RT position and release players that are Clearly more talented than the guy you have starting.

yep, anyone who don't agree take a look at film of the OLine DV put together in KC.

See Chiefs 1990 to 2005.

Holy crap LMAO

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing. I'm surprised any Chiefs fan would have to be reminded of it. I still savor the memories of that KC-BAL game (MNF?) where Ray Lewis just got wtfpwnt over and over again.

so you think the Chiefs have a real QB under center? LMAO

I have more memories of Elway, Manning and Marino ****ing us more than our line knocking people us out.

You're going a little overboard and attempting to create a straw man that isn't there.

No one is suggesting that RT is a more important position than QB.

But that doesn't mean we should make a habit of sitting a guy who is infinitely more talented than the guy we are trotting out there, and then to just release him so that we can promote an undrafted FA who was on our practice squad.

Also, we are playing a left handed QB right now. I don't think that any position on the field is as meaningless as you're suggesting. QB is far and away the most important position, but it isn't by any means the ONLY position that matters.

yeah, that was awesome.

Somebody needs to dig up that gif again.

You can have 5 Hall of Fame O-lineman, but when you are trotting out Howdy-Doody at QB it won't win shit.

You can however win a championship with a shitty RT and below average line with an elite QB.

The line play including Barry Richardson has looked better since Cassel has been gone. And thats with Tyler ****ing Palko.

This is well understood. We shouldn't make a habit of drafting RTs in the first round. How about we play the best players who are on our team though?

Eli Manning says "Hello".

1995 John Elway just stopped in for coffee. He says "Hello" as well.

Talent =/= production. Gaither ****ed up every time he was on the fields it seems. I don't remember anyone being happy with how he played the few opportunities he's gotten. He may be talented, but something is very wrong with him.
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...and yes, I do have a time machine in the kitchen next to the coffee maker. Johnny Unitas is going to come over and talk about audibles with me later/earlier/now.

Jared Gaither wasn't one of them.

No, he thinks we need a quarterback much more than we need a RT and we should prioritize qb before RT.
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I didn't see the game last night. Is Gaither playing left tackle for the Chargers or right?

2010 Aaron Rodgers says ”what's up?”
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Again, I think this is pretty well understood.

In fact, what was the last move we made before releasing Gaither?

We paid a QB $2.5 million in an attempt to upgrade the position. Of course, he wasn't an upgrade over Palko either according to our HC.

i agree we need a QB but i also think RT needs to be upgraded.

Too bad there's only one of him.

I swear you guys take press conference bullshit to heart. Orton going in in the second quarter is a pretty big statement that the Palko era was over.

Left

Left.

No I was replying to Bone Krusher saying that we shouldn't get a qb until the rt spot is filed.
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Of course it does, but it's not worth getting ones panties in a bunch over.

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the **** did he even start that game in the first place?

like i said i just think he could have worked out in KC if he had been givin' a chance but Dumbass Haley fixed that.

Wait do you want to get an RT before getting a QB or do you want to prioritize getting a qb?

You can't have it both ways.
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No clue. Orton isn't the answer, but he at least belongs in this league. Seems like every pass Palko threw was a bubble screen or under 5 yards in the air. I don't remember a throw further than 15 yards down the field.

Link?
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Do you know of any updates on Orton's condition? He played for us with a badly injured finger. I hope the guy does well, except against my Broncos.

Haley was just blowing smoke to protect Palko. He isn't going to throw him under the bus to media. It was pretty clear they were getting Orton ready to go. He got 40% of the snaps in practice this past week after just arriving.

It pretty much was. Shocking that our line would look better as we are throwing bubble screens every play.

I agree 100% that Orton isn't the answer. But, just like Gaither, he is the best at his position on this team, so he should have been on the field.

It was in his press conference I believe, so I don't have a link. I listened to it on the radio.

The plan was to sub Orton in on every pass expected to go 5 yards or more downfield.

Thanks.

I thought the issue with Gaither is that he didn't want to play RT (I know he said he would right after he was picked up but that doesn't mean his heart was in it)? If may explain why he couldn't replace BR and the Chiefs finally go fed up with him. He may be serviceable in a pinch at LT but he isn't better than Albert (not that he showed, anyway).

This offense is like Herm ball on speed. Especially when they do the hurry up, throw bubble screen, then up the center's ass LJ style bonanza.

Ah yes, if there's one thing Haley makes it a point to do, it is massage the egos of his players and build their confidence. LMAO

So, we'd only be playing the best QB on our roster for 5 or fewer plays a game regardless.

If Haley said that the Orton thing was a one play deal, then I agree with chiefscountry, he was lying to protect Palko.

Why else would he say that he has to be careful about what he says other than to protect Palko?
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What player has he ever called out in a press conference?

Exactly. Especially since we ended up winning.

Haley may be a hard ass but he doesn't throw players under the bus.
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that's what it sounds like to me.

that Todd Haley is so smart when it comes to offense.

Dude, you think we shouldn't get a qb until we get a RT. You're not really in a position to be calling people out
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You're right, he doesn't make a habit of throwing guys under the bus in press conferences. But, he has several times just not commented on the situation at all. I don't think he has ever come out and lied in a press conference to protect a player or anything. His comments on Cassel, etc, where he basically has just not commented aren't uncommon.

say what, i didn't call anyone out?

did you mean my remarks about Haley?

i just basically said he's the biggest piece of shit on this team, other than QB and RT.

Gaither and Richardson both suck. No great loss cutting Gaither. And Richardson probably won't be a Chief next year.

The Sandy Eggo City Council has just voted and given the entire city (plus a dinky little island that kinda shows up occasionally at low tide) to Gaither in recognition of his performance.

FAX

Yeah.

We certainly can't do both. Acquiring a QB and a tackle to protect your QB is impossible to do in one off-season.

What is with this ****ing site? Why is everything an exclusive decision?

You guys are stupid if you think franchise QB's don't need protection. If I have a franchise QB I don't want him taking 20 hits per game and get injured because we have the worst OT in the entire NFL.

Healthy franchise QB > Franchise QB on IR

"Franchise QB's" get rid of the ball quick and don't take 20 hits per game genius. Richardson is crap, but our QB's make the line look worse than it actually is.

I watched the packers last season.

Rogers got his face bashed in and overcame it. HE took loads of hits.

I've seen Montana get sacked 7 times in a half.

Shut up.

Good QB's take hits too. They're not immune. Not all guys move and throw quick like Drew Brees and not all are damn near immune to injury like Favre and Big ben. You don't let 300 pound men have a free shot at your most important player as often as possible just to prove how Barry Richardson is good enough. He's a liability and that's ESPECIALLY true if the QB is of value to the team.

exactly.

that's why i said "before we get a real QB" the RT spot needs to be upgraded.

with Cassel and Palko, A RT isn't that big of a deal, i mean if he would miss a block and get Palko knocked out, i'd send him a Thank You card because i wanna see how Stanzi plays before the season is over.