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Pants 12-12-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8195033)
If it's not Romeo/McDouche/other random Tree ornament, it will be a very good sign because it would suggest that Clark sees a need to mitigate some of Pioli's power.

Absolute best thing we can hope for at this point.

You think Clark is that involved? I bet he gave the reins to Pioli and is content with being a spectator. We know that Clark wanted to draft a franchise QB, the fact that an attempt at drafting one has not been made is rather telling.

I fully expect it to be Crennel or McDaniels at this point with Cassel getting another shot.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:15 PM

Whoever is hosting the show on 610 right now is nailing it.

Hold the organization's feet to the fire. Demand excellence, not mediocrity.

Bewbies 12-12-2011 01:17 PM

Why the **** am I a Chiefs fan? LMAO

bevischief 12-12-2011 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8195029)
I hope to god this.


Either by a new head coach or a first round quarterback. Maybe both.

Both.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195045)
Whoever is hosting the show on 610 right now is nailing it.

Hold the organization's feet to the fire. Demand excellence, not mediocrity.

Today is a day to lift the iron wall. Truthfully address the situation.

Or you're going to lose your fanbase.

He's right.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195035)
They needed to drum up excitement in 2009 as well, and we got Haley.

And it worked. LMAO

We're all fools.

FAX 12-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefPressure (Post 8194696)
Pioli brought Cassel over and gave him a shitload of money before he played a single down. Matt Cassel was Piol's choice plain and simple.

Tyson Jackson was just another prime example of a Pioli pick.

Haley is just a scapegoat in this trainwreck.

Kinda looks that way to me.

As much as the haters would like it to be ... this isn't necessarily good news for Chiefs fans.

FAX

htismaqe 12-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8195002)
Why? It was Haley who had faith and coached the kid up. (per latest news).

Charles Robinson (I'm assuming that's who you mean by "latest news") also said that Cassel was 100% Pioli's decision...

Okie_Apparition 12-12-2011 01:19 PM

It's acupuncture for the soul

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195045)
Demand excellence, not mediocrity.

Demand...a proven winner.

http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/...eff-fisher.jpg

Chiefnj2 12-12-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8195069)
Charles Robinson (I'm assuming that's who you mean by "latest news") also said that Cassel was 100% Pioli's decision...

So? They both liked him apparently.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195066)
And it worked. LMAO

We're all fools.

On on queue, some dipshit caller on 610 is expecting Jeff Fisher and Payton Manning.

:facepalm:

petegz28 12-12-2011 01:20 PM

It's probably true that Haley didn't want Jackson. He probably saw some 5'6", 175lb, scatback he wanted.

FAX 12-12-2011 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8194999)
Doesn't matter. It's going to be a Pioli-puppet either way.

They'll either hire someone from the tree that already believes in all this bullshit, or they'll hire someone weak who they think they can force their beliefs on.

Lose-lose either way.

Definitely a concern at this point.

Given what we are learning, we have every reason to fear that ... I hate to say this ... Whittles was right about Pioli's egomania.

FAX

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:22 PM

Never heard this Danny Parkins dude at length before, but he's owning this segment.

htismaqe 12-12-2011 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8195074)
So? They both liked him apparently.

And one of them, the one that thought enough of him to sign him to a $60M deal, is still here.

Not sure what it is you're trying to argue...

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8195086)
Definitely a concern at this point.

Given what we are learning, we have every reason to fear that ... I hate to say this ... Whittles was right about Pioli's egomania.

FAX

Yup.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-12-2011 01:23 PM

Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?

COchief 12-12-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195091)
Never heard this Danny Parkins dude at length before, but he's owning this segment.

Care to share, or are you just going to keep vaguely telling us about how good he is?

Nightfyre 12-12-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8195106)
Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?

Coincidence.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8195106)
Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?

That may be the most desperate thing I've heard from a Chiefs fan. LMAO

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195071)

:spock:

Why? What is so good about his history? He either misses the playoffs or gets booted in the first round every year. 1 super bowl appearance that he lost...

Mr. Flopnuts 12-12-2011 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195114)
That may be the most desperate thing I've heard from a Chiefs fan. LMAO

you certainly don't think I want him here do you?

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 8195107)
Care to share, or are you just going to keep vaguely telling us about how good he is?

:spock:

I've been sharing. Check my last couple of posts.

FringeNC 12-12-2011 01:29 PM

When Pioli traded for Matt Cassel, I deferred to his supposed insider knowledge of Cassel, but commented that I thought because of this insider knowledge, he was effectively betting his job on the trade, because he would look like a joke if Cassel didn't pan out...

Well, all this talk about whether Haley sucks or not....the fact of the matter is that Pioli in fact did fail in his gamble with Cassel. This press conference is about the termination of Todd Haley's contract, but really should be about the fact that we have wasted 3 years because of Pioli's bad bet and now must start over.

Marcellus 12-12-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8195128)
you certainly don't think I want him here do you?

The biggest upside is it sounds like he didn't like Cassel so he would be shown the door.

After reading all this it just solidifies my belief Haley kept playing Palko because he was trying to get fired.

Valiant 12-12-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8194680)
What happened to Cassel's development in 2009 and 2011 if it was all Haley??

Teams they played.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195120)
:spock:

Why? What is so good about his history? He either misses the playoffs or gets booted in the first round every year. 1 super bowl appearance that he lost...

I see no other proven winners.

DaWolf 12-12-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8195106)
Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?

Doubtful, but I don't discount that Weis had a sense that Haley would be getting fired soon, which makes being in the same vicinity as the Chiefs bearable to him...

chiefmeteorologist 12-12-2011 01:33 PM

Any interest in Ryan Mallett in NE?
Posted via Mobile Device

DeezNutz 12-12-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefmeteorologist (Post 8195171)
Any interest in Ryan Mallett in NE?
Posted via Mobile Device

Is this post from last year's draft?

Dayze 12-12-2011 01:34 PM

word is they're bringing in Jared Lorenzen to play QB and NT.

Molitoth 12-12-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefmeteorologist (Post 8195171)
Any interest in Ryan Mallett in NE?
Posted via Mobile Device

He's worth a shot. Top caliber draft prospect sitting under Tom Brady with some NFL experience at hand.

Sounds a lot more promising than spending a 1st on Barkley or Landry Jones.

That said, I'd rather have RG3 or Peyton Manning.

Frankie 12-12-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8194646)
It's called leadership.

It is one thing to voice your disagreement, but once the decision is made, it is made.

Acting like a spoiled brat doesn't help.

One man's "spoiled brat" is another man's "leader." It's all in the perception, my friend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8194665)
Well we are gonna find out pretty soon if Pioli is tied to Cassel. Maybe Pioli listened to Weis while he was here and will move on and flush the turd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8194674)
Not really, given that there was no other option. Haley does come off as rather childish though that he was resentful that Weis got the credit. This will be entertaining, and gives me hope we may not be stuck with McDaniels + Cassel.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...V3ZtuuSgBdI9Jb
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefPressure (Post 8194696)
Pioli brought Cassel over and gave him a shitload of money before he played a single down. Matt Cassel was Piol's choice plain and simple.

Tyson Jackson was just another prime example of a Pioli pick.

Haley is just a scapegoat in this trainwreck.

Nailed it on all counts.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195154)
I see no other proven winners.

Proven winner? How so?

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195194)
Proven winner? How so?

142 ****ing wins

****ing gold, son

ChiefsCountry 12-12-2011 01:38 PM

Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

Imon Yourside 12-12-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195120)
:spock:

Why? What is so good about his history? He either misses the playoffs or gets booted in the first round every year. 1 super bowl appearance that he lost...

The fact that he won in lieu of a bad owner, he did a lot with very little.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8195203)
Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

BAM!!!

Pioli is now cowed on bended knee.

Big-time name coming in here.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:40 PM

Fescoe's a reerun.



bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
@
@CharlesRobinson i believe ur takes on Cassel and Weis and Haley are misdirected

@CharlesRobinson Charles Robinson
@bobfescoe Weis didn't think Cassel could cut it in terms of how Haley wanted him developed. So he effectively said "Fine, you do it."

DeezNutz 12-12-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8195203)
Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

Pioli will say the same thing, though, and has said as much in the past. Clark has final say on everything.

Shag 12-12-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8195203)
Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

That was pure speculation on his part, and he said as much...

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8195203)
Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

He also said Pioli may be fired before the end of the year.

Not happening.

FAX 12-12-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8195106)
Any coincidence Haley is fired within a week of Weis getting hired by Kansas? Could Pioli be making a move for Weis before he gets started there?

I don't know about that, but I'm pretty sure Haley won't be offered a job as KU's offensive coordinator.

FAX

Imon Yourside 12-12-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8195219)
I don't know about that, but I'm pretty sure Haley won't be offered a job as KU's offensive coordinator.

FAX

Thank the lord for that, i wouldn't want that loser on the KU sideline.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195199)
142 ****ing wins

****ing gold, son

Oh, good. More regular season wins. I like those. I like them even more when they come with playoff losses in the first round.

Ah, good times.

Swanman 12-12-2011 01:42 PM

Will Dick Stanzi finally get to play now?

FAX 12-12-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8194904)
But, but, but...Haley ran him off?!?!

I can't believe they ran the whole organization into the ground over Matt ****ing Cassel...

And that, my friend, is on Pioli. There's no other way to view it.

FAX

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195223)
Oh, good. More regular season wins. I like those. I like them even more when they come with playoff losses in the first round.

Ah, good times.

Super Bowl appearances, son.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:44 PM

If any of you ever doubted how big of a dumbshit Bob Fescoe is, check out his Twitter.

Dude's arguing with Charles Robinson, and losing badly.

LMAO

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8195203)
Wow, Balindger said Hunt is going to make the call not Pioli.

Well there's some good news. That will hopefully eliminate the POS canidates like McD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8195207)
The fact that he won in lieu of a bad owner, he did a lot with very little.

Not really. Average coach with many more bad years than good years.

FAX 12-12-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8194807)
Robinson is getting his info from one of two sources: Haley or Pioli.

Or Weis.

FAX

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195227)
Super Bowl appearances, son.

1 appearance and he lost. He's never even been close since.

johnny961 12-12-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8194967)
So, in Haley's defense....think about this:

Pioli gives you Matt Cassel as your QB. He blames you for Cassel's suckage in 2009, and forces Weis on you to fix him. Weis watches the tape, and laughs at Cassel, and refuses to work with the guy. Am I missing something?

If the whole situation was indeed this big of a cluster **** its a wonder we won as many games as we did.

Fritz88 12-12-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8194999)
Doesn't matter. It's going to be a Pioli-puppet either way.

They'll either hire someone from the tree that already believes in all this bullshit, or they'll hire someone weak who they think they can force their beliefs on.

Lose-lose either way.

Exactly.

KC_Lee 12-12-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8195207)
The fact that he won in lieu of a bad owner, he did a lot with very little.

Um no, the Titans broke the bank and were in cap hell trying to keep Fisher's players together for one more run.

Seriously, Fisher has more 8 - 8 season than any other coach I can think of. Add to that the fact this Titan fan base is about 90% "true fans" there was very little pressure on Fisher to win.

Not to mention the last time the Titans made a playoff run at 13 - 3 they lost in the first round, at home, with homefield advantage, with an aging vet QB, strong runing game and D. Does that sound remotely familer to anyone on this board orver the age of 25?

ChiefsCountry 12-12-2011 01:46 PM

Bob Fescoe is the biggest ****ing idiot.

Molitoth 12-12-2011 01:46 PM

I wish 810 and 610 wouldn't go to commercial at the exact same fucking time.

Brock 12-12-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195232)
If any of you ever doubted how big of a dumbshit Bob Fescoe is, check out his Twitter.

Dude's arguing with Charles Robinson, and losing badly.

LMAO

That's embarrassing.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 8195245)
Um no, the Titans broke the bank and were in cap hell trying to keep Fisher's players together for one more run.

Seriously, Fisher has more 8 - 8 season than any other coach I can think of. Add to that the fact this Titan fan base is about 90% "true fans" there was very little pressure on Fisher to win.

Not to mention the last time the Titans made a playoff run at 13 - 3 they lost in the first round, at home, with homefield advantage, with an aging vet QB, strong runing game and D. Does that sound remotely familer to anyone on this board orver the age of 25?

Quoted for Truth

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:47 PM

Parkins is calling out Fescoe's dipshittery on air.

Hilarious.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195236)
1 appearance and he lost. He's never even been close since.

Sounds like Dick Vermeil!

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:49 PM

LMAO

Awesome.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8195261)
Sounds like Dick Vermeil!

Would you take Vermeil back?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-12-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8195255)
Parkins is calling out Fescoe's dipshittery on air.

Hilarious.

Its great

chiefmeteorologist 12-12-2011 01:50 PM

If no upgrade is made at QB for '12 I think Mallett is worth a look. Great arm. Knock has been "between the ears". If '12 comes down to Casel Vs Mallett I would take Mallett.
Posted via Mobile Device

Shag 12-12-2011 01:50 PM

I liked this Parkins guy until he said he'd start Orton over Stanzi on Sunday...

Sofa King 12-12-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefmeteorologist (Post 8195274)
If no upgrade is made at QB for '12 I think Mallett is worth a look. Great arm. Knock has been "between the ears". If '12 comes down to Casel Vs Mallett I would take Mallett.
Posted via Mobile Device

No.

We already have a backup Patriots QB as our starter.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefmeteorologist (Post 8195274)
If no upgrade is made at QB for '12 I think Mallett is worth a look. Great arm. Knock has been "between the ears". If '12 comes down to Casel Vs Mallett I would take Mallett.
Posted via Mobile Device

STFU n00b

O.city 12-12-2011 01:52 PM

If we are gonna upgrade the qb position it should be with RGIII, Barkley, or even Luck.


If a new coach comes in and him and Pioli agree that they are a qb away from having a contender for years with all this young talent, I'd be ok with going for Luck.

siberian khatru 12-12-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8195147)
When Pioli traded for Matt Cassel, I deferred to his supposed insider knowledge of Cassel, but commented that I thought because of this insider knowledge, he was effectively betting his job on the trade, because he would look like a joke if Cassel didn't pan out...

Well, all this talk about whether Haley sucks or not....the fact of the matter is that Pioli in fact did fail in his gamble with Cassel. This press conference is about the termination of Todd Haley's contract, but really should be about the fact that we have wasted 3 years because of Pioli's bad bet and now must start over.

Bingo.

ToxSocks 12-12-2011 01:53 PM

Which shitty radio is better to listen to right now, 810 or 610?

KC_Lee 12-12-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefmeteorologist (Post 8195274)
If no upgrade is made at QB for '12 I think Mallett is worth a look. Great arm. Knock has been "between the ears". If '12 comes down to Casel Vs Mallett I would take Mallett.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yeah, let's run down another team's QB depth chart like we did with San Fran in the 90's.

That worked out well didn't it?

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8195293)
Which shitty radio is better to listen to right now, 810 or 610?

610.

Either way, you're getting the presser in 5 minutes.

Frankie 12-12-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8194799)
Thank you for getting rid of the stubborn bastard coach who could never admit he was wrong.

YES, Mr. Pioli, you stubborn bastard GM who can never admit you are wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8194824)
On another positive note, this is hopefully going to sour Chiefsnation on the Chiefs. Attendance really drops the last two home games. Clark wants to put people back in the seats.

And THERE's the rub. :( I wish Clark would want to put a Lombardi trophy in the glass display. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8194899)
If I am Clark Hunt, then I make damn sure that Pioli understands that he's done a crappy job of building a foundation for a front office, and that this next head coaching choice will likely be his last if it isn't correct. I also take more of a role in making sure the guy is the right fit for the organization you are trying to build.

You are not Clark Hunt. That actually might be unfortunate. I'm beginning to think this is the only solution, as far-fetched as it may be:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...15#post8195015


Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8194915)
The Patriot Way is one of the biggest farces in professional sports.

The Patriot way = Lucking into the next Tom Brady

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8194954)
Lombardi claiming Haley didn't buy into the "Patriot Way."

Another reason I'm disappointed he's gone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8194999)
Doesn't matter. It's going to be a Pioli-puppet either way.

I'll take almost any Pioli puppet over Joshy boy. Some people have pointed at Haley's sideline behavior and appearance as in contrast with the way Pioli and Hunt dress and behave. We have seen Josh's sideline behaviour. When Pioli hires McDaniels that theory is flushed.

Donger 12-12-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8195147)
When Pioli traded for Matt Cassel, I deferred to his supposed insider knowledge of Cassel, but commented that I thought because of this insider knowledge, he was effectively betting his job on the trade, because he would look like a joke if Cassel didn't pan out...

Well, all this talk about whether Haley sucks or not....the fact of the matter is that Pioli in fact did fail in his gamble with Cassel. This press conference is about the termination of Todd Haley's contract, but really should be about the fact that we have wasted 3 years because of Pioli's bad bet and now must start over.

But does it really matter what "we" think about Cassel? Isn't what only matters what Hunt and Pioli think about Cassel?

HemiEd 12-12-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195236)
1 appearance and he lost. He's never even been close since.

Yeah but they played really good and stuff.

Baby Lee 12-12-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8195270)
Would you take Vermeil back?

With Crennel [and Hali, Burrrrrry, Flowers, Houston, etc. instead of the brokedicks of the 00's], I actually would. And for those who know me, that's saying something.

Never hated Vermiel, hated horrible defense.

Titty Meat 12-12-2011 02:01 PM

Whoever we hire needs to keep Palko around so we can see what he has.

OnTheWarpath15 12-12-2011 02:03 PM

Wright claims he knows what the final straw was...


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