Many of those passes you are talking about are throw aways. Which ties in with his anticipation. He hasn't adjusted from College "open" to Pro "open". Half a step Tim. That's what you're going to get most times. Plus Fox is very conservative too.

I disagree about Decker. While I think he's a decent blocker, I believe he has trouble finding the ball and at times creating seperation. Every reciver on this team minus Fells had balls him them in the hands and they dropped them every game. Now Tebow does not have the most catchable ball in the league, but they have to amke those catches every time.

Well see what happens next year, but I love that all the Chief fans are soo concerned that they start a thread every week telling us how bad he is.

Basically Garcia is telling us that he doesn't need us to tell him just how bad Tebow is, because he already knows full well how bad Tebow is.


SO GB, which QB do you think the Broncos will take with their first pick in April?

I do know more about Teebs, because I watch him play over and over. I also go to traning camp regularly enough to know how he practices. He did not look good this year in training camp. Which is why I supported Orton as a starter, but after 4 games, it was clear to me that Orton is a jinx. There is no other way to explain it.


I think we'll draft BPA all through the draft. And make no mistake, we'll bring in a Vet. We are too far back in the draft to use a pick on a QB as rookie. It doesn't get us anywhere if Tebow goes down with an injury except cause controversy.

He is a winner, just give him a few more years horseface.

Ok, lets look at the real facts, then look at the opinions.
Facts:
1. Tim Tebow was the QB when the broncos went 7-4 this season.
2. The broncos were incredibly fortunate to win three of those four games (think onside kicks and chicago not running out of bounds, or they are 4-7 in that time.
3. The broncos have a solid defense
4. During the 7-4 stretch, the broncos played only 2 teams that ended up as playoff teams. They lost both.

Opinions
1. Tim Teabow was a motivating factor and led the team to those wins
2. Kyle Orton was terrible and Tebow is better
3. Tim Tebow can develop into a starting caliber NFL QB
4. Tim Tebow is a winner at this level

Putting it all together, lets be real. The guy came onto the scene with a totally unconventional offensive system installed after week 6 when it became obviouse to John Fox, that he doesn't have the delivery, accuracy, or field vision to run a typical NFL passing offense. That unconventional system caught the first three or four teams by surprise and took a few weeks to teach them the discipline needed to defend it. During that time, the broncos caught some very uncanny breaks such as Marion Barber failing to run out of bounds, getting an onside kick against an 0-6 Miami team, a brand new QB in Oakland that hadn't played but a few quarters in a year, etc. Finally, the schedule toughened a bit (though not much), the defenses figured out how to stop a college read option offense, and the breaks stopped (other than the chiefs muffed punt). Guess what? The broncos lose 3 in a row. Tebow's numbers are some of the worst in NFL history. That isn't any coincidence. The guys a gamer without NFL talent. Tyler Thigpen with a lesser accuracy. Had John Fox not scrapped the offense to save some sort of offensive face, Tebows numbers would likely be even worse.
This is a case of a few random events coming together in a time sequence that is purely coincidental, and leading to a perception of an outcome that simply isn't reality.
In all likelyhood, Elway knows this and will plan to move on in the offseason. If not, the broncos are putting thier rebuilding process on hold for another two years or so while the young guys they have begin to reach and or pass thier prime. I'm not buying in at all. It is delusional to think this guy can get the broncos to the playoffs again. They got there DESPITE his play, not because of it. Heck, this is just my opionion, but I think they started figuring Foxs defensive scheme out about week 4 or 5. I think if they had kept Orton, they'd be sitting at 10-6 and might have a first round bye. As a chiefs fan, I'm VERY happy they are drinkin the Tebow koolaid.

Tebow FTMFW! Sign him to an extension, now please! How great would that be, the same day we find out the Norv is staying in San Diego? PBJ

And there we have a huge problem. Tebow isn't accurate to within half a step, and he knows it.

Now if Hunt shits and/or gets off the pot (and shits anyway) and names Crennel HC, we'll all get what we want.

YOU STOOPID

Yep. We get to keep our defensive minded coach whom the players love and who has elevated our defense to a pretty high level. Now if we can just get an offensive guy in here, we should be set to win this crappy division for a long time to come. :p

I can agree that that factors in to his mental problem. It's something he needs to have perfect by the start of training camp this year. I hope he does.

Terrell Suggs is my sweet baboo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...rn=nfl-wp15161

Final ESPN Quarterback Ratings:
#8...... Phillip Rivers
#11.... Carson Palmer
#19 ....Kyle Orton
#20.... Matt Cassel
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#32.... Tim Tebow

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/type/player-season

So, you make fun of these guys throwing for 5K because it's so easy, but the QB you perform fellatio on strggles to complete 6 passes a game :rolleyes:

I have to agree that that post does little to defend Gods 2nd begotten son.