I don't watch the Patriots but it seems that when McD was in Denver, he pretty much ignored the running game. He also made some curious calls with the Rams, like pulling Jackson out on goal line plays. My impression is that he is pretty pass happy. Not sure how accurate that is, though.

He is pretty pass happy.

However he would have two of the better rbs in the league if Charles is healthy. He would have to run the ball some.

But, but, he's from the Patriots!

It was part of a hypothetical question. That's why he started it with "if".






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We can't stop here. This is bat country

The only problem I have with Pioli is Haley, he obviously didn't get to know who Haley really was, and didn't see that they'd never get along. It's a big problem, but it's the only one I have.

The fact that they would even consider the SOB has to be just one more insult to Otis Taylor. He should be in the HOF and his number 89 should never have been worn by the likes of Andre Rison.

Yeah, I don't back Cassel, or didn't you get that before. I gave up on Cassel a while back. The best you're going to get out of him over a season is slightly better than average (if he plays against a weak schedule), and that's not good enough to win championships. My point is that me wanting to get a different QB is not going to change the apparent reality that we're NOT going to get a new QB. So I've essentially got no choice but to focus on other things, because me posting on here repeatedly post after post that we must trade up and draft RG3 is not going to make that a reality.

If the owner would like to go out and hire someone who is going to bring us that championship QB, then great...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/footb...#ixzz1iiR7fRlT

I know that doesn't mention the Chiefs, but maybe Lombardi was right?


This whole thing is confusing. I don't think anyone really knows what Pioli is doing.

That isn't new info.

Demoff said that during his press conference after Spags and Devaney were fired.

Giggling

Well I take back my last post then. You're not a real fan, just like 99 percent of the rest of these guys.

1- Cassel

2- Using a 3 (of 1st) on T-Jax.

Bigger problems than his hiring Haley.

Welcome to the club Dawolf! :p

Big yes on Cassel.

I think you're exaggerating on the T-Jax pick. In hindsight, it wasn't a horrible pick, especially when you look at all the fail in the top 10 (including Sanchez). That class might very well have been one of the worst draft classes in recent memory.

So if we bring back Cassel and he brings in McD and the Chiefs win 8 or less games next year, is Pioli fired?

Yeah, taking Jackson at 3 is too high, but I don't have a problem with the player. And to be fair there were a lot of misses in that 1st round. It could be worse, we could have taken Curry.

Cassel is not great, but I don't have a problem with him. We gave up a second rounder for a average starting QB. He's not going to win you games on his own, and the Chiefs have had a whole bunch of QBs just like him, but the Chiefs had NOBODY at the start of 2009. He's equal to or better than Mark Sanchez, so I'm glad we didn't go that route. Maybe I'm being to easy on Pioli saying we could have done worse, but it's true.

If Piolis plan was bring in Cassel as a leader and spot holder until the roster gets built up, thats fine.

Just don't understand why he paid him that much.


Also if thats the case, go get your qb now then.

For some reason I don't think this was the case however.

I'm pissed about the QB decision. Not because of the Matt Cassel decision, but their arrogance to think he was so good that they didn't need to bring in competition.

Pioli should have known Cassel was a very rough work in progress. And that being said, should have made a significant effort to bring in a young QB to legitimately compete. He waited 3 years to do that, and even then, waited until the 5th round.

Well to be fair, easy schedule or not, Cassel had a good second year. That more than anything is what kept him as the starter, and kept the team from planing to replace him. People that are frustrated at Pioli for sticking with Cassel should be frustrated at the 2010 season. If Cassel had had a rough 2010 I think they would have looked to replace him by now.

Like him or not, dude has won 11 and 10 games in a season before. That will keep him employed in the NFL for awhile.

Smoke and mirrors. Dude averaged roughly 200 yards per game on 28 APG.

49er fans are going through the same thing. I'll bet they looked forward to dumping Alex Smith. Now, after going 13-3, there's no way they replace him, he's still mediocre, but he lead the team to a division title.

Its been said before around here, the 49ers this year are the 90's Chiefs. At some point Alex Smith will have to make a play in the playoffs and wont be able to make it.

Yeah but he had a really good TD to INT ratio, and they won. It bought him more time, and the fact he got hurt this season, even though he wasn't playing well, most likely will buy him another.

Look at Alex Smith. He threw for less than 200 yds a game, only threw 17 TDs, but you think the 49ers are going to replace him next year?

Heard on the Mike&Mike show speculation that if Manning leaves the Colts he would be a 49er.
Wouldn't that be a bitch? They could win 3 SBs if his neck holds up.

It would be, but who knows...its just speculation.

Courtesy interview, teams do it all the time
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I think McD would be a great pickup for the Chiefs

Carson Palmer

I think he was a good pickup too.

You bet!

When was the last time a Chiefs QB threw for over 400 yards?

Matt Cassel, last year. 469 at Denver

Last year in Denver, Cassel had like 410.


LOL JK.

This X 10!

Exactly why you guys should keep him:thumb:

I wish we had legit media people in KC.

That would be the first question out of my mouth if I was a reporter at a press conference.

He also threw 7 picks that year. How many did Palmer throw this year?

This takes alot but I'd take Carson Palmer ten times over before Matt Cassel.

They're not that far apart. Orton and Palmer are almost the same player now.

DAMN! Cassell threw for 400?? Stud.

Palmer throws a much much better ball than Matt.

Cassel has no business being an NFL qb. He can't throw it more than 10 yards.

The crossbar is not very happy with your post here.

Accurately I mean.

Forgot to put that in there.

jthom1Jim Thoma

Goodbye Josh from the Stl. Pats move fast on McDaniels. Rams signed permission form only 1 hour ago. Kansas City yet to request permission.

Man I hate defending Cassel, but he IS an NFL starting QB. He's a bottom 4th of the league starter, but a starter. It's not what to aspire to, but we let him go this offseason, he starts for another team.

His arm strength is fine. He's just not anywhere near accurate after 12 or so yards.

What team would he go to and be better than the starter they already have?

Seattle maybe?

HIs strength is fine, it's just that he has to wind up to throw it that far. Throws off his accuracy.

Cassel is good enough that when his running game is going good and the defense is playing well he can beat equally bad teams.


How many good teams did he have good games against? Not beat, but have good games agaisnt?

His arm is not even average.

He has to put everything into a 15 yard throw when a qb with "good arm strength" (like Stanzi) can throw 15-20 yards with just a little flick of the wrist and trusts in his mechanics to be accurate.

For Cassel to complete those passes, his target has to be wide open and he has to have a perfectly clean pocket.

The moment everything isn't perfect, pee runs down his leg.

That's what I am saying... Keep Cassel = Win!:thumb:

He'd have to challenge, but Miami, Cleveland, Arizona, Jax, most of these teams wouldn't because of how much they've already invested in QB, but Cassel would probably be the best QB on those teams roster. Heck, he'd be the best QB on the Broncos.

**** you, McFistPump. **** you.

He's not better than Moore or Kolb IMO maybe equal but no way is he better.

The only reason he would start anywhere is if that team had aboslute shit at qb.

The dude is terrible. There is a reason he has been a backup everywhere he has played. It's not a coincedence that Orton made the offense look 10 times better.

His mechanics are shit, his mental game is shit, his arm strength is shit.

The only thing to like about the guy is that he is a good leader. Or so we are told.

I'm not even an Iowa fan but Stanzi has shown more to playing hte position of qb than Cassel has.

Cassel = :(

Palmer = :(

People underrate Moore so much.

He's at least Orton level.

Jim Thomas @jthom
Goodbye Josh from the Stl. Pats move fast on McDaniels. Rams signed permission form only 1 hour ago. Kansas City yet to request permission.

I'm not really disagreeing with you. Actually you're right. I don't want Cassel.
I'm just saying, he's got a better track record than several QBs starting, and would probably get the nod over players like Moore and Kolb.

I'd love to see Stanzi in a real game, and I'd love to see a QB drafted this year, although with all the QBs returning to college, I think Stanzi is probably as good as anywe'd get after the top QB's are gone.

It just sucks that this roster is gonna be sb ready in the next 4 or 5 years and we don't have a qb that can do it for us.

I know. With a good QB this team is far and away the best in the division.

This.

It's why I'm banging the Luck drum as hard as I can.

Hopefully the people at 1 Arrowhead drive can hear it from here.

I have a feeling we're not going to request it.

Hopefully the next HC hires someone good, because I don't need another year of Muir. And we better not be promoting Zorn...

I'd much rather have Zorn than McDumbass.

You're trying too hard.

Doesn't matter if they hear it, Indy isn't trading the pick

If we do in fact hire Crennel, I'd let him select his OC. Give whoever we hire the fairest shake.

And a couple of posts prior he said pioli should fired.
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I woudl't be so sure.

Based on what?

His stellar work with the QBs here and in DC?

Whatever you say about Zorn is probably true, but at least he hasn't been caught cheating multiple times.

I think Zorn is a good qb coach.

It's not his fault he has been saddled to bad quarterbacks.

I really could care less about cheating, taping, whatever.

Zorn's QBs haven't shown remarkable improvement. I don't care how bad they are, none of them have corrected mistakes as the seasons have gone on.

Flacco, maybe, but this isn't the NBA here. A QB coach should improve the mechanics of the QB and I didn't see one bit of that with Cassel.

If Pioli wants McDaniels as OC, and Clark Hunt won't let him....this franchise is in total disarray.

You think Scott is holding his breath stomping around grabbing his ears?

Really, it's already in total disarray.

Pioli is a complete fraud and someone who promised stability, championship rosters and consistency.

We've been served a shit sundae and Clark wants to charge a premium to eat it.

This is probably the most vital hire in franchise history. If Pioli ****s this up, which I have no doubts he will, then Clark may never get the chance to reclaim these fans again.

The fact that he has to talk to re-treads like Del Rio and Mularkey tells me that Pioli has no ****ing clue what he wants and is going to seal his fate by hiring some jerkoff that he's going to pass as gold.

My source keeps saying it's Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, and while I guess I could tolerate that over Del Rio, it's a sad state of affairs when he's the most attractive candidate.

HC's just don't want to work for Pioli. It's that bad.

Who knows....but if there is a big rift between Pioli an Hunt, Hunt needs to fire Pioli, not let it fester like it did between Haley and Pioli.

No, I think he's sitting on a gold throne and talking down to everyone that walks through the doors.

He's the almighty powerful Oz with his football knowledge and everyone else is a tin man or cowardly lion.

I feel that's probably right.