Regardless of what happens if you're a Broncos fan, don't you now not want to root for Dumervil? To me this is a real difference between realistic fans, and blind beyond belief homers. I remember LJs last few seasons I was embarrassed he was on the team.

He is Dumervil's friend, of course.

Whether or not the something comes of this through the legal system or if any action is taken against him is irrelevant. Goodell is still going bring down the hammer. The question is will it be a tack hammer or a sledgehammer.

So having the gun in the glove box is probably a good thing since Dumervil has a permit. I bet Steinberg can argue that Dumervil never flashed a gun at all.

Here's the key thing....


How would the witnesses/victims know about the gun unless they had seen it?

So how would the witness know he had one then?

And, actually, the witnesses said that each man brandished a weapon.

The witnesses said they saw two guns. Two guns were found.

Lucky guess? :shrug:

How could they see it though? The cops could have brought up the guns to the witness during questioning.

Congrats - you're the first person I've ever put on ignore on ChiefsPlanet.

:banghead:

LMAO

Are you really this stupid, or is this just trolling?

The modern automobile is equipped with a nifty little feature called, "windows".

Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? It's just a simple situation involving a Bronco, a gun, and a motor vehicle late at night. What could possibly go wrong?

12 pages of replies I ain't gonna read. But has anybody suggested the new spelling of DUMBerville for his name?

that or Dumerass

But then he went and lied to the cops about having a gun after it was alleged by two witnesses that he not only had a gun, but flashed it.

Like I said earlier, Dummy probably won't do time, but don't be suprised if Goodell opens up a shoe store in his ass. Justifiably so, too.

Elvis has the left the vehicle?

Good thing no girl friend or wife was nearby.

I'm not sure we know. The victims were probably paid off by the mafia, and the Victoria's Secret employee probably had a bra over their face at the time and couldn't tell who was who.

Jesus Christ.

Meet your new team, Peyton.

Thanks, guys. I just.... sigh.... I don't even....

How long does it usually take before charges are filed in cases like this?

He's been charged

Is that a recent development? Last I heard, he'd been arrested, but charges hadn't been officially filed.

EDIT: Nevermind.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...avated-assault

Miserable user him.

you might be more stupid than DUMBERville himself......do you have any idea how stupid that is?

Owners should be allowed to keep these guys in cages during the offseason.

Because football players are the only people that get arrested.

Did it hurt when you thought to say this?

It's funny. These guys have millions of dollars. They have fame. They have women. They have all the perks that come with being young superstars, but it's not enough. They have to be able to threaten the lives of people on the streets, in bars, etc. and get away with it to boot. **** that. Throw the book at this prick.

Seriously...I hope he goes to jail. It's assholes like all of them in this situation that gives governments fuel to come after legit gun owners.

A little.

I don't get it either. Hell, if I had that kind of money, I'm not sure I'd even want to be driving my own car around. Let someone else drop me off wherever I want to go.

Where's that kid saying "that's racist" with the NFC logo and watermelon bouncing around when you need it.

:D Never mind me, I'm just pissed that my team's stud DE is a gangbanger wanna' be that is too damn stupid to allowed to roam free on his own recognizance.

If you try to stay silent for a few seconds, you can probably actually hear KnowMo crying.

You guys certainly haven't had a shortage of idiots the past few years. I could be wrong, but haven't DJ Williams, Perrish Cox, Brandon Marshall, Knowshon Moreno, Matt Prater, and a few others all been arrested in the past few years?

Brandon MArshall was a one man crime wave, but his mostly centered around 1 woman
Cox was arrested, but the whole thing seemed like bullshit
Prater DUI, Moreno DUI
DJ Williams, DUI, DUI

I don't like it one bit however it isn't an NFL phenomenon unique to the Broncos.

Yeah, just seems like you guys have had more than others lately. We had Jared Allen and LJ a while back, but it seems like things have been relatively quiet lately unless I'm forgetting someone.

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> According the police report, much of her statement concurred with the victim's statements, although the witness added the passenger victim got out of the white Impala and yelled back at the occupants in Dumervil's Land Rover. The Victoria's Secret employee further stated that during the argument the driver of the White Impala threw an unknown object that struck Dumervil's Range Rover.

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http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

Doesn't sound like Dumervil did any assaulting.
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So Demervil had to get all tough with a girl who threw a pair of lace panties at his car.

I take it he's gay and hasn't come out then??

Junior Siavii and Lawrence Tynes come to mind.

I am always amazed at how few people understand what "assault" means.

Tynes, that still cracks me up. The bad ass kicker..............yeah.

Yes...and people often think it's battery

I hear you. It can happen to any team. Owners ought to have financial recourse at a high enough level to act as a deterrent that would actually make these idiots think before they roll around town with pistols tucked in their belts pretending they are Tony Montana.

SAY HELLO TO THE DUMB GUY!!!

Harvey Steinberg makes a living off the Broncos. He gets so many black guys off he could be a Kardashian.

that would probably be WORSE. he had a permit for his gun right?

I had a post written that explained that I agreed with you, but I think it's a complicated issue. On the one hand, it sucks that teams suffer when a player goes out and act like an idiot, so it would indeed be nice if they could recoup some major dough for issues like this.

On the other hand, a system like that would reduce the risk teams face when picking up a player with character issues, and I don't necessarily want it to be easier for thugs to break into the game in the first place.

Big deal. I have, in my possession, a couple of my dads guns and a friends gun. If I use them in a crime, am I innocent because they don't belong to me?

There was assault on Dumervil's part.
I was trying to interject a little levity with the lace panties part.
I haven't actually heard what was thrown at the RR.
I thought it was a little over the top for 2 guys to jump out of their car and threaten a lady by showing their weapons.

Lindsay Jones mentioned Doom had a permit in a tweet yesterday.

It's a little more complicated than that, there was some third party involved, but the details are shakey at best

Great point. Maybe part of the rule is that if a team pick's up a player that has incurred the Idiot Penalty within the past 12 months that team may only collect 50% of the penalty if the player re-offends any time during his first season.

Maybe Elvis didn't use the gun in a crime. Maybe one of the people he was with did and Elvis didn't know someone put it in the glove box.

This could be a scenario similar to the one Chumlee was in, where his friends beat up a guy while Chumlee just stood there. The only difference is Doom's buddies had guns and didn't harm anyone.

i understand that, but was the permit for THAT gun?

well except for the PEOPLE that SAW dumb with a GUN

Not according to DMAC. That gun wasn't his it was one of his buddies'.

Yeah police report says Elvis lifted his shirt to show a gun in his waistband, says witness identified that it was Elvis.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...t-miami/14278/

Elvis may escape any legal issues, but the mere impropriety may get him 4-6 games off.

Chewbaca Defense FTMFW.

I'm sure Goodell will see it that way.

Chewbaca?

Enlighten me...

:spock:

Sure, that must be it.

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...574636708.jpeg

:doh!:

Your homerism run deeeep!

Sorry your angel is being implicated in this mess.

Court records show Dumervil has pleaded guilty in six traffic cases in Littleton, Aurora and Douglas County since 2006, including charges of speeding more than 20 mph over the speed limit and driving with a suspended license.


Jeepers. I was going to ask how the guy still has a license, but apparently he doesn't. How dumb does a person have to be to have six traffic cases in six years? Can he not figure out the cause and effect of why he's getting stopped?

Why you gotta' judge?

DWB

It's who I am. Puritan roots and all.

It wasn't him. A friend stuck him in the drivers seat each time. His lawyer will get him out of it.

Can you explain what a wookie is doing on Endor?

Doesn't that make it worse for him? I don't see how him having possession of another person's gun is a good thing.

I read that same quote in the Post earlier today and just shook my head. Money, like booze, amplifies the true character.

so he was in possession of an unlicensed gun?

Yep, double negative makes it a positive.