We looked like we were very vanilla on d and didn't gameplan at all

Were we really all that prepared, or were we playing a shitty Arizona team?

The starting D got gashed tonight.

Rout had a gift wrap INT for him but it looked like no effort was made to grasp it. That freaking errked me :mad:

Agreed. Defense looked a bit flat tonight and the offense had some bad breaks early on. Unfortunately the worst news is Kendrick Lewis. I could care less about a bad performance...What I do care about is losing ANOTHER member of the secondary.

D definitely got gashed. I'm not gonna get all up in as about a pre season game but it was a bit disheartening

I havent really seen anything from Amon Gordon this preseason. How's his play looked ?

Ropati Pitoitua could possibly replace him.

Thank you for reminding me. I'm assuming you're talking about the ball that was deflected and literally landed at his feet.

I was screaming at him for not making an effort on that play. Would have given the offense a short field. No excuse for it.

That's the thing - people were quick to make judgements based on last week's game, but are willing to chalk this up as "just a preseason game."

Can't have it both ways, folks.

347 yards is hardly gashed.

Some were yeas. Myself not so much




In the end it's just preseason. No gameplans no adjustments lotta individual play.

Someone wasn't watching the game.

Cassel does need to go through his progressions better. I can't see the whole field from the tv view but by watching his head and how quickly he gets rid of the ball you can tell he's either on a leash, or it's a vanilla preseason offense or he's a reeruned game manager QB.

Only pre-season, but it is still very unsettling to see only a couple of pass attempts over 15 yards. 7 still stares his primary down, and dumps the football to the backs most of the time.

If the team ever gets down in a game, short on time, this dink and dunk offense isnt going to win any of those games. Im all about using your backs in every way that you can, but when its the ONLY way your QB can confidently move the offense, your team is in trouble.

He made a couple throws that I was really surprised that he made, but overall it looks like same old 7.

Defense got punched in the mouth from the opening snap, several 3rd and long situations and still give up the first down. You cant put 8 in the box on 3rd and 9 and let Bradford just sit back there, and depth at DB is starting to become a concern with as many spread formations this defense will see from AFC West opponents.

Poor timeout management cost the team about 4 points in the first half. I figure if they had those timeouts, they end up scoring a TD on the Rams instead of settling for a FG. Burning 2 timeouts only 6 minutes into a game is some Herm League preparation right there. Absolutely inexcusable.

I figure this years team is going to be all about Peyton and Jamaal, while playing what will hopefully be a bend but dont break defense. If it comes down to Cassel's ability to win the game through the air, forget it.

Yes that play. Fn peaved me off. **** his candy raider ass if that's how it's going be. I don't care if it is preseason got to look like your giving effort out there damn play like you want to be out there. Plenty of guys that would love the same opportunity just to make the effort.

I see a bunch of guys making more of this that what there was.

3 turnovers were the main problem. Led to directly 21 points.

They need to work on protecting the damn ball, though.

Part of my concern with the passing game goes to something that amnorix posted a while back. Preseason is the time to test your limits and push some passes where they won't go, just to see what you can do. If our free tests in preseason are just short passes, we're naturally going to get more conservative when the games start counting.

I only saw a little bit off the game on a fuzzy feed but the defense looked flat. I was fine with offense, although Baldwin's ball control was disappointing. I look forward to watching the game on Monday but I'm actually glad they were flat because it makes the team easier to coach this week.

You ****ing kidding me? The reason their yards were low was because they had short fields. The D couldn't stop anything and couldn't pressure the QB. The D got curb stomped.

I don't think turnovers had much to do with Steven Jackson running through holes a ****ing Humvee could drive through, nor the time Bradford was getting in the pocket to find guys running free all over the field.

Absolutely no push up front. Biggest cause for concern since we have a shit ton of first-round picks in the front seven.

Well, Arizona did play New Orleans pretty well and handled Oakland easily...

Not saying they're awesome, but we have SOMETHING to hang on to from that game.

That said, we may have looked good last week b/c we were blitzing and getting fancy while Arizona didn't. Whereas the opposite might be true of this game.

At least they're good against the run.

/true fans

Yeah, they were good alright.

Good for Steven Jackson.

If it occurs during the regular season, Instead of the 2nd preseason game, I'll worry.

As for Baldwin I think that was just a fail to learn from and not make a it a habbit. One pass thrown to him shouldn't make or break him being good or not. Damn. Let him grow into his job I believe Baldwin is going kick ass this year and for as long as he is a Chief. I'd like to see Cassel make more effort to deliver the ball to him that is for sure. Breaston hasn't had much thrown to him either so what's going on?

I bet I can find this post from last preseason.

If what occurs?

You just told us the defense didn't get gashed.

A first round receiver in his second year shouldn't need to "grow into the position".

That is some bullshit right there.

Tell that to Just Not Gettin It and jd10100. They are LOVING Cassel right now.

I see how it works now.

When they play well, it doesn't matter because its preseason.

When they shit themselves, it totally matters.

He didn't exactly have the ideal first year. No offseason and a dipshit egotistical has been breaking his hand to miss the first 5 games.

My thoughts? Hmmmm, preseason game #2. That is all.

I don't love Cassel you ****ing moron. I wan't a new QB as bad as the next person but Cassel has been a hell of a lot better so far and there has been NOTHING to complain about.

You're making an excuse for him tonight?

Okay.

LMAO

Actually, if you read this place, it's exactly the opposite. People completely overreacted to last week, and are playing the "well, it's just a PS game" card this week. Can't have it both ways.

I've said more times than I can count that it doesn't mean shit until Week 1 of the regular season.

:facepalm:

But you walked away from this game SO impressed! He had a GREAT game.!

That's an excuse? He was barely targeted tonight and fumbled a ball. I'm not excusing that. Just pointing out facts.

He was as good as he was in his last preseason game of 2011, when he was 15 out of 17 passing for 129 yards. LMAO

Dude is a preseason Pro Bowler who is once again fooling all the homers.

Hell, he was 9 out of 14 for 99 yards and a TD in his last preseason appearance in 2009. What happened that year?

Am I suppose to be unimpressed with a QB, who is known for shitting his pants under pressure, not shit his pants and make accurate passes with zip on them?

Are you ****ing kidding me? What a dumbass remark. It is his SECOND YEAR! He has this year to work on his craft NEXT year if we don't see the major improvement then ya you would be right. Give him this year to prosper or have a chance to make the plays he IS capable of making.

Facts?

LMAO

You're slightly reeruned, no?

Shut the **** up, Dumbshit.

A..J Green and Julio Jones needed two years, right?

So Baldwin had an offseason last year, didn't have a broken hand, and didn't miss the first 5 games last year? Good to know, you ****ing idiot.

Yeah that really sucks if we lose Lewis for a long stretch. The lack of safety depth might bite us in the ass for the second year in a row. Hopefully someone steps up. The good news is that when we lost Berry last year our D managed to still be pretty good.

Broken record is broken.

And Lewis is Not Berry.
If have a little faith in Daniels playing the free.

I'm fully aware. They looked good last week.

Its preseason. I say this every year.

I don't get excited, one way or the other.

I save it for when it counts.

I DVRed the game as I was at a dinner party tonight. So I don't know who looked good or who looked bad. I'm taking your words for them for now. But this is amazing how most of the posters were talking SB possibilities after last week's game and how we are "the worst garbage on the field."

IT'S THE F@#%ING PRESEASON, PEOPLE!!!!

NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING.

Yeah exactly. If we can lose Berry and still have a good D we should manage fine without Lewis. Still hope he is ok.

LMAO

What a bunch of ****ing reeruns. Always making excuses.

Ya. I'm totally making excuses for Baldwin's lack of production in preseason games. How many times has he been targeted, btw? McCluster probably has more catches than Baldwin has targets,

Why would I need to shut up? Hmm? It's his second ****ing year like you said SECOND year give a guy proper time to succeed or fail, but give a guy a chance to grow. He had SHIT for QBs all of last year.


You don't know shit but you like to talk big and tough. Mr. Dane McCloud.

You guys could fill the Grand Canyon with your tears.

Right.

How many times in the past decade have the Chiefs had a losing preseason and a winning regular season?

Get that motor running, Dane.

We need you humming along at full speed when Atlanta comes in here and drops a nuke on Arrowhead.

First Dexter, now Baldwin.

You love those underachievers, don't you?

haha

Calling someone a moron and then following it up with putting an apostrophe in the word "want" is just too funny to pass up on.

Me too.
I wouldn't count on it.

And you "talk" like a Homer-Dumbass.

If Jon Baldwin needs three seasons to prove his worth, he was a ****ing awful selection.

To be fair to Baldwin, Darius Heyward-Bey needed 3 seasons. :D

Dexter is a classic OVERACHIEVER, dude.

850 offensive yards for a 165 pounder is a lot.

Happens a lot, people thinking of other words while typing different ones. I'm sure you never make a typo... ever.

He looked like shit last preseason. That's when and why the Stanzi legend started.

Sometimes, even that doesnt hold much weight.

You dont get a god look at some teams until week 2 or 3.

I understand he was a lifetime Cowboy fan and was gonna go there almost no matter what.

Ok I thought earlier in this thread somebody said Richardson looked solid. Now I'm confused.

I have typos all the time.

When I go back and read them, I usually laugh.

Which is exactly what I did when I read that post.

I'm a homer for having expectations for guys to do good for the upcomming season? Great then I am a ****ing homer.

Not on that play. He got nocked on his ass pretty good and it was funny. I'd like to see it gif up tho.

Richardson got blown the **** up by Houston on one play, knocking flat onto his fat ass. He blew past him on another speed rush as well. Don't remember how either looked in the run game, as I was too busy watching our awesome run stuffing ends and Toribio get raped.

So that's your response? Obviously, I gave you too much credit.

You're ****ing dumber than I thought.

I didn't take much from this game tonight. I saw some good things I saw alot of bad things. we definitely didn't build on last weeks game but its the second preseason game so im gonna wait to see how we finish the preseason out and start the regular season before I start going crazy or not. I dont think im drinking the koolaid people are making saying were gonna be a top 10 defense though. I just dont see it...yet

Because its the Chiefs they don't draft QBs in the first round.

I don't give a shit what you think of me. I pretty much think your an internet bully with shit for brains but thats JMHO.

Ya and sometimes they turn it around mid season. Players and team need to grow together and learn the strengths and weaknesses just to get better. This is a new season with some good aquisitions from the offseason and some that may hender the team **cough Routt cough** if they don't play or make efforts like they should.

This is a young team and I'm still excited for some Chiefs football this year. Out side of our QB situation we got players that can play with the big dogs in this league & even Matt Cassell can have decent plays to keep us in the cool runnings.

Dane's an asshole. He makes it difficult to hang here. I got to think there are better things to do then listen to some nuttless squirrel try to make his mark on a chief’s message board.

Love the people that are all up on Cassel's bag. He's like a con man. He has this style that leaves a box score making him look like a pro bowl QB, but its like he makes plays with absolutely no regard to what impact it has on the teams actual chances of winning. He's whoring QB rating at the expense of an offense that can actually compete with playoff caliber teams. Need 9 yards for the first down? Box score says Matty completed it (for 7). Down by 14? Matty went on a 12-14 streak (for a FG and the team lost by 18).

Buckle your seatbelts football fans. Matty is gonna take us on another Pro Bowl season ride. Yes, we'll get embarrassed by the true competitors of the league, but we may fall assbackwards into the playoffs by winning the worst division in the NFL. And boy oh boy, look at Matty's stat line.

Positives:

Charles looked like he trusts the knee and that he hasnt lost his explosion, vision or strength in his runs. Definitely a good sign.

Cassel looked like he is trying to take the next step in his development (sad that at 30 that is even an issue) by trying to push the ball more on intermediate routes. His arm looks visibly stronger and his accuracy seems to have improved...as does his poise, albeit not by leaps and bounds.

Playcalling is much better on offense. I know, I know preseason blah blah...but the plays are in on time and most of the time have been effective.

Hillis looks to be ready for another 2010 year...dude reminds me of a more talented Mike Alstott...hopefully he continues to secure the ball and isnt careless with it in crucial situations like he was in 2010...if he does, our running backs will be in beast mode.

Jerrell Powe looks to be a guy that should probably get some sub package work and is probably deserving of more than that. He is seemingly disruptive on a lot of plays he is in for and if this team is gonna blitz more and use man coverage as much as they are, he can be an asset in a "Jay Ratliff" type role as a penetrating nose when we blitz.

Allen looked to be in beast mode and should be promoted immediately to starting left guard.

Dexter McCluster is kicking big time ass out there and is arguably our best receiver (until Bowe gets his back into the swing of things. He is getting consistent separation and is catching almost everything thrown his way. If he keeps it up, he will provide a valuable weapon to this offense.

Kevin Boss is looking like a stud pickup more and more aqnd should allow our offense to use he and Moeaki similarly to how Gronk/Hernandez get used in NE. Really good value signing.

Dontari Poe is already starting to flash, if you look close enough. He is splitting doubles and beating blocks regularly and had a couple pressures tonight. They need to put him at the3 nose and keep him there...LIKE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO.

The negatives:

Stanzi looked like hot garbage. No redeemable features were on display tonight. Just a poor showing.

Dorsey/Torbino/Jackson all looked like ass. Not sure what was up tonight with them, but they all looked soft.

The whole secondary...even Berry looked bad tonight and whats really bad is that the Rams have one of the weakest receiving cores in the league and we couldnt even slow them down.

Did I mention Stanzi?...biggest opportunity of his life to show something and he really played poorly.

Bailey...where the **** was he?

Albert has a rough game, too...gave up a couple pressures and a sack iirc. Its a shame...I figured he would be looking very impressive this time of the year in a contract year.

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

I hope Romeo turns it up a couple notches in practice this week to get the starters some good work before next week...thats the game that these guys need to be almost ready to line up in a regular season game and if we look out of rythem...that will almost undoubtedly carryover into the regular season.

This team has a lot of work to do to start to realize their potential and if we dont get it going pretty fast, Clay is gonna end up looking like a genius at the end of the year.

This place...some people choose to be optimistic and look at postive things that can be taken from the game and have a bright outlook for the players and season. These people are called homers in a negative connotation by people that are choosing to look at negatives from the game and harp on them relentlessly, and use their "more informed" stance to prop themselves above those they deem as dumb "homers." The irony is that it is two sides of the same coin.