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BossChief 10-03-2012 12:05 AM

Want to know how to almost totally guarantee getting Geno Smith?

Trade Bowe before the deadline.

Think long and hard before you respond with death threats.

We wouldn't win a game without him and even if we do, the extra draft pick would give us the ammo to move up. Shit, package him and Dorsey and see what we can get.

A team like Miami or St Louis would probably bite....possibly Indy would jump in a help us get more for them.

Thinking about the long term big picture, this wouldn't be a bad choice.

3 years from now, we would be glad we did it.


-ducks-

DaneMcCloud 10-03-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8972367)
Want to know how to almost totally guarantee getting Geno Smith?

Trade Bowe before the deadline.

Think long and hard before you respond with death threats.

We wouldn't win a game without him and even if we do, the extra draft pick would give us the ammo to move up. Shit, package him and Dorsey and see what we can get.

A team like Miami or St Louis would probably bite....possibly Indy would jump in a help us get more for them.

Thinking about the long term big picture, this wouldn't be a bad choice.

3 years from now, we would be glad we did it.


-ducks-

Terrible idea.

You've lost it in this thread.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2012 12:14 AM

Dude, if trading Bowe brings us a franchise QB, DO IT RIGHT ****ING NOW.

There's a decent chance he may not even want to be here at all, no matter what.

tmw4h5 10-03-2012 12:18 AM

Let's be honest, we have to trade Bowe.

Do you really think he's going to re-sign with us? Look at who he has had to play with at QB in his career. He knows firsthand how cheap ownership is. He knows how much of a dick Pioli is. Do you think that Hunt is going to pay him top dollar? It's clear that our GM and/or Clark Hunt undervalue the worth of players. Even the players we have re-signed under Pioli came at club-friendly contracts. I really doubt Bowe is going to take a "hometown discount" to stay with a team that appears to be going absolutely nowhere.

We need to trade Bowe before the deadline. We have to take what we can get for him. Even if it's a 2nd rounder. You cannot simpy let a player of his caliber walk away and get nothing in return for him. We could franchise him again next year, but I highly doubt he will put forth actual effort. He'll simply collect his paychecks and do his best to not get injured.

We have three options:
1. Trade Bowe and get what we can.
2. Keep Bowe and hope he re-signs (lol, failboat).
3. Franchise Bowe again and let him lol.

Assud 10-03-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8972367)
Want to know how to almost totally guarantee getting Geno Smith?

Trade Bowe before the deadline.

Think long and hard before you respond with death threats.

We wouldn't win a game without him and even if we do, the extra draft pick would give us the ammo to move up. Shit, package him and Dorsey and see what we can get.

A team like Miami or St Louis would probably bite....possibly Indy would jump in a help us get more for them.

Thinking about the long term big picture, this wouldn't be a bad choice.

3 years from now, we would be glad we did it.


-ducks-

Going to have to agree with this guy. We're gonna lose Bowe at the end of the season anyways. Might as well get something for him and rebuild from there.

DaneMcCloud 10-03-2012 12:19 AM

****ing reeruns

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8972368)
Terrible idea.

You've lost it in this thread.

I just want this team to finally have a quarterback that would put us on the map so bad I'd give Bowe, Dorsey, my moms tv, a weekend with my sister both of my pinky toes and the whole 2013 draft if that's what it takes.

I am of the thought that with a legit quarterback, our receiving corps (even without Bowe) would be adequate until we could draft someone to replace him with....maybe that someone is the receiver from WV that he likes throwing to so much.

Bring in Holgoson as the OC and (brace yourselves, I'm tired right now) hire Bill Cowher as head coach and have him hire a dc that would institute his attacking 3-4 and lets crank up the band!!!

Hammock Parties 10-03-2012 12:23 AM

Dane, keeping Bowe is not good if it bars us from getting a franchise QB.

Look at the Giants. You can find a WR man.

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8972381)
****ing reeruns

I'm sick and tired of years like 2011, buddy.

No playoffs and just outside where the qbs get picked.

We need to sacrifice a lamb and a couple virgins to make sure we don't miss the ****ing dance, AGAIN.

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8972387)
Dane, keeping Bowe is not good if it bars us from getting a franchise QB.

Look at the Giants. You can find a WR man.

Ryan Tannehill (which isn't even in the same stratosphere as Geno Smith) just threw for 450 yards and his top receiver was some guy that caught 250 yards worth of passes.

Geno would do just fine with Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Wylie and a draft pick or two and our running game to keep defenses honest.

Not to mention our OL should be jelled by then, too.

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:32 AM

You would have to think that Miami, the Rams or Indy would be willing to give up a
Jared Allen type haul for Bowe (and maybe even Dorsey)

I guess I can see us signing a guy like Gerrard or playing Stanzi and riding Bowe to a big year that gets him his payday elsewhere as we franchise Albert and lick 12th lr 13th and have to chose between Wilson or Jones.

**** that.

**** all of that.

DaneMcCloud 10-03-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8972383)
I just want this team to finally have a quarterback that would put us on the map so bad I'd give Bowe, Dorsey, my moms tv, a weekend with my sister both of my pinky toes and the whole 2013 draft if that's what it takes.

I am of the thought that with a legit quarterback, our receiving corps (even without Bowe) would be adequate until we could draft someone to replace him with....maybe that someone is the receiver from WV that he likes throwing to so much.

Bring in Holgoson as the OC and (brace yourselves, I'm tired right now) hire Bill Cowher as head coach and have him hire a dc that would institute his attacking 3-4 and lets crank up the band!!!

Epic ****ing fail.

Hire a guy that hasn't coached in seven seasons, then pay a DRUNK college head coach $3 million a year to be the OC?

What the ****?

Does ANYONE have any common sense around here anymore?

DaneMcCloud 10-03-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8972397)
You would have to think that Miami, the Rams or Indy would be willing to give up a
Jared Allen type haul for Bowe (and Dorsey maybe even Dorsey)

I guess I can see us signing a guy like Gerrard or playing Stanzi and riding Bowe to a big year that gets him his payday elsewhere as we franchise Albert and lick 12th lr 13th and have to chose between Wilson or Jones.

**** that.

**** all of that.

You're smoking crack

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8972398)
Epic ****ing fail.

Hire a guy that hasn't coached in seven seasons, then pay a DRUNK college head coach $3 million a year to be the OC?

What the ****?

Does ANYONE have any common sense around here anymore?

Yeah, I can see where having an exciting offense with a young quarterback leading them with an innovative system paired with an extremely talented young attacking defense wouldnt be worth the cost.

Epic fail, indeed.

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8972399)
You're smoking crack

I don't do drugs. I am a little tired though and am thinking out loud (well, typing silently anyway)

I took a nap earlier so I am up when I'm usually asleep by now.

BossChief 10-03-2012 12:43 AM

We need to lose enough games to ensure we are in position to pick an elite quarterback prospect and Geno Smith (and MAYBE Barkley) are really the only two ELITE guys that should be in this draft.

Second added bonus of this move: Pioli probably gets fired.

NJChiefsFan 10-03-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8972290)
At this point, both of them suck, and we have no idea what the future may hold for either.

They have to be counted against Pioli right now.

Especially Moeaki, who had a history of injury coming out.

Jeff Allen had a dogshit game Sunday, too.

And Jon Baldwin's impact on this offense has been minimal. Though, in his defense, greater than McCluster so far. LMAO

I agree with the overall point. I do disagree on holding Berry against him. When healthy he looked great year 1. Not to mention everyone said he was the pick and loved that we got him. Even said that Pioli shouldn't get credit because it was so obvious. I don't mind not giving him love because anybody would have taken Berry. I do think its harsh to say somebody made a mistake in taking Berry, especially after year 1. There are tons of things we can throw against Pioli. Don't have to make it seem like Berry was a mistake. Even if he somehow doesn't work out I am never going to blame this organization for taking him.

kcxiv 10-03-2012 03:34 AM

just keep status quo and we dont have to give up shit, we will be drafting in the top 5. lol The only team that may be worse then the Chiefs right now is New Orleans and there's no way they are drafting a qb.

We may end up getting blown out 5-7 more times this season with the qb's and terrible coaching this team has. lol

JUst keep as is, and bam, we are in it to win it with drafting a qb, only problem then is Pioli may be the guy that drafts one.

Just to remind everyone how bad this team is, We are 1 quarter (haley speak) through the season and have NOT lead in a game for 1 minute. I doubt thats ever been done before. lol

Coogs 10-03-2012 05:42 AM

[QUOTE=Psyko Tek;8972113]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966351)
Clark doesn't need a damn consultant to tell him what's wrong. Stevie Wonder can see what is wrong with this team. Years of poor drafting, poor coaching and players who don't care.

Winston played like Richardson yesterday. Berry played like Piscatelli. Moeaki is useless. And what might be the most telling, Cassel has regressed. I didn't think it was humanly possible for a QB to get worse than Cassel in 2011. But, hell he's done it this year. He can't even dump off the ball accurately. It's amazing how bad every single facet of the game is


hey **** you colquitt is money
and that is the best thing we got

Richardson kept Orton clean when both were here. And I'm not sure where I read this... Peter King's MMQB I think... but Richardson was listed as one of the offensive players of the week for helping keep the Seattle defense from getting a sack after Seattle had 8 in a half against Green Bay. :banghead:

htismaqe 10-03-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8972487)
Richardson kept Orton clean when both were here. And I'm not sure where I read this... Peter King's MMQB I think... but Richardson was listed as one of the offensive players of the week for helping keep the Seattle defense from getting a sack after Seattle had 8 in a half against Green Bay. :banghead:

Common denominator? Matt Cassel.

Imagine what our guys that are already borderline would look like with a REAL QB. Albert might emerge as one of the top 2 or 3 left tackles in the league...

FAX 10-03-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8972941)
Common denominator? Matt Cassel.

Imagine what our guys that are already borderline would look like with a REAL QB. Albert might emerge as one of the top 2 or 3 left tackles in the league...

I have little doubt of it. Heck, every aspect of our team would improve and the defense might be the biggest beneficiary.

FAX

Reerun_KC 10-03-2012 10:27 AM

Marty's last few years in kc were craptastic. I wouldn't let that bumbling moron near my sons high-school team. Let alone an NFL team.

Marty is vastly overrated by chiefs fans.

DaneMcCloud 10-03-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8973032)
Marty's last few years in kc were craptastic. I wouldn't let that bumbling moron near my sons high-school team. Let alone an NFL team.

Marty is vastly overrated by chiefs fans.

1997 was a bad year? Huh? If Instant Reply had been in effect, it's likely the Chiefs would have beaten Denver.

1998 was a jailbreak (literally) but that was his only "bad" year.

Coogs 10-03-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8972941)
Common denominator? Matt Cassel.

Imagine what our guys that are already borderline would look like with a REAL QB. Albert might emerge as one of the top 2 or 3 left tackles in the league...

Absolutely!

Richardson goes from worst in the NFL to NFL player of the week. Winston goes from several time pro bowler to looking like Richardson did here the past couple of years.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8973157)
1997 was a bad year? Huh? If Instant Reply had been in effect, it's likely the Chiefs would have beaten Denver.

1998 was a jailbreak (literally) but that was his only "bad" year.

Definately. That and an imaginary hold on a FG attempt wiping away 3 pts. After watching a SanDiego player fumble a Brady INT costing them a P.O. game, the guy is just ****ing cursed.


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