Thats where Mark Casel comes in.

while i would prefer trading with a team that has a worse record, if trading Bowe gets us the elite QB in the draft next year, sign me up.

And hopefully, the Chiefs can replace him with a WR that never flexes

Well we know Pioli is going nowhere. Like he's gonna trade his best receiver midseason when his job is on the line.

**** you Clark.

Our luck would be goodell taking our first for tanking and forcing a cassel extension on us with his boy pioli.

Fixed if for ya

Shut the **** up, Dumbass

They really like Pat Devlin and they could always bring David Gerrard back in a pinch, too.

I'd do Bowe and a 3rd for the Dolphins 1st round pick. That move would help draft that top QB prospect that we want and while any QB needs decent receiving targets, do not forget that it's the QB that makes his receivers and not the opposite.

Look at the Broncos with Manning, Thomas, Tamme and Decker, they have a good to great passing offense.

Surely the Chiefs with Baldwin, McCluster, Boss, Moeaki and Breaston can do good with a top notch QB, whenver Geno Smith, Barkley or Wilson becomes one.

Now that I think of it, think also about the Saints, they have had a great passing offense with no real #1 WR. It's all about their QB and Oline, or mostly.

If trading Bowe can be the difference between getting Smith or not, just do it.

Go **** yourself.

Featuring a quarterback who laser-locks on his primary receiver in a scheme (or is it, again, a QB) that doesn't push the ball downfield. It might be interesting to see what Baldwin could do if he got all of Bowe's looks. Then again...it might not. Hard to say for sure. In any case, I wouldn't write any receiver off before the end of year three. And I think there's potentially a lot to like about Baldwin.

(This should not be interpreted as support for a Bowe trade; it's just commentary on Baldwin)

Wow you guys really are dumb.

I can't see Jeff Ireland, who's trying to save his own ass this season, trading Moore.

If Tannehill were to go down, their season would most likely be over, unless Devlin is Kurt Warner part deux.

I dont like the idea of losing Bowe more than ANYONE ELSE HERE...I paid full retail for his authentic Jersey a couple weeks after we drafted him...but if it gets us a franchise QB, move the WR.

Likewise.

There's way too much talent there for me to give up on him. Even if he's nothing more than a deep ball specialist, he can be a good player. Hell, Vincent Jackson does little more than run downfield and catch jump-balls and people consider him a #1 wideout.

Baldwin is erratic, but the guy never sees the ball. Give him some passes and he'll get into rhythm better. Oh yeah, and how 'bout we use him as his skills indicate - a downfield threat?

Baldwin will be a good WR as soon as he is somewhere with a legitimate NFL quarterback and an offense that even attempts to incorporate this newfangled 'route tree' thing.

which ones? ROFL

:rolleyes: He had one good season two years before he came out and was drafted basically on his raw potential and because Pioli thinks he smarter than everyone else.

If he turns out good then great but the odds are hes just another Scotty patented draft bust.

Sure hope not, yet another retread who can be had on the cheap... yep, sounds like the Don.

Exactly. Thank you, Mr. keg in kc.

All of you guys!! Listen to Mr. keg in kc!! He is wise and enlightened, informed and sagacious!!

To catch the ball, one must first fling the ball in the general direction of the ball receiver.

FAX

no, this dude is! relax a bit n have a laugh!

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Potentially negotiating? LMAO

Terms like that take creating news/hype/clicks to a new level.

Baldwin will break out when they stop misusing him in this offense. Running him on crossing and slant patters is beyond reeruned.

The Chiefs won't need to trade Bowe in order to get a Franchise QB.

This team won't win another game this year, with Bowe or without him, but trading him sends a very bad signal to the fan base, especially with Routt getting his shit pushed in week after week.

What big games?

If Bowe went to NE, GB, Pitt or even Dallas, he'd be considered a freakin' star in this league.

If Bowe gets traded, know who swings the biggest, chocolatiest penis in the AFC West?

Nobody. That's who. At least nobody worth mentioning. Probably Richard Seymour or some worthless **** like that.

This is a dark day for the Chiefs.

Fire Pioli TODAY.

I mean, I'm not a Bowe nutswinger by any stretch, but unless you get a 1st and third THIS coming year AND a conditional pick the NEXT year, no WAY I trade a proven commodity like Bowe.

And yes, even with the discussion yesterday that I don't think he's 'elite' like Fitz or Megatron...but damn it, he's one of the best horses you got and he's in his PRIME as a player as far as age, understanding and ability coalessing on the field.

**** SCOTT P-HOLEY!!!
FIRE SCOTT P-HOLEY!!!!!

They dont need a younger backup like Moore, if they trade Moore, Gerrard will be signed within a day or two and will be the backup and Pat Devlin would be the developmental guy.

You guys can't possibly think a top 10 QB couldn't do good to great with Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, Boss and whoever WR we could draft in the 2nd round next year if you really wish???

BOWE DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE.

What part about that don't you guys get? Jesus.

Get what you can and move on. It's not the end of the world. Use Miami's 1st to pick a WR. It's gonna be a top 20 pick.

Jamaal Charles swingeth it

i doubt anyone gives up a first for a 28 year old WR. 2nd and Matt Moore maybe, but i doubt they give up a first.

Moore is 28 years old. Gerrard is coming off of injury, in which he came off of injury. He's hardly reliable.

I know that if I'm Jeff Ireland and I'm on the hotseat, I don't trade the guy that won 7 games for me last year, especially while I'm in the hunt for the division title.

Pioli said in the interview he has to get this team fixed, this is how he fixes things.

cASShoLe doesn't have the arm strength to hit anything else.

We have been fans of this team long enough to KNOW that thiey will pull it together JUST ENOUGH after we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs to win 3 or 4 meaningless games and move us down to 9th-11th overall and just far enough to miss out on a QB AGAIN.

Moving Bowe would almost ensure that we get the top pick.

Marshall was a problem child when that trade went down. Bowe should get a 1 and a 3

I don't know what a top 10 QB really looks like - I've only seen 'em on the TV.

this^

If true, this is beyond dumb.

This makes sense. Good thing we didn't get a deal done with Bowe earlier because he would not be valuable in the development of a legit QBOTF, if Pioli's balls drop and he decides to acquire one this off-season.

Pioli has effectively pillaged Chiefs kingdom and is now working to burn it down on his way out of town.

Wow. **** Pioli.

1-15 is really happening if this happens.

I hope the dipshit can get something good for him.

Breaston is gone in the offseason, Moeaki sucks and is always hurt, Boss sucks and is always hurt, McCluster just sucks.

Oh, and even if we draft a QB, he won't be a top 10 QB for a couple of seasons.

If we trade Bowe, we'll probably still have a horrifying awful passing game for a few years. And trying to develop a QB with nothing but tripe around him is a recipe for...well Sam Bradford, if you're lucky.

Keeping Bowe around as a security blanket for a 1st round QB would be a huge advantage in developing him.

Alas, our GM is a hated despot so it's not going to happen.

Great. Just great.

We are going to draft a first round QB and Pioli is going to gut this team of all it's weapons so the QB fails.

Also, if he's making deals like this, he's not going anywhere.

**** this team

Link?

no, I mean THIS^

Q.

Exactly the point I made about trading Gonzo when Pioli came on board. While Cassel is known garbage now, a HOF TE would have been one hell of an asset to this QB early in the process.

So who did you see on TV? Because that Top 10 QB that you saw on TV is what a Top 10 QB looks like.

Aside from Matt Cassel there's no way there's any player who wants to be in KC right now. Who the **** wants to deal with this?

Again, **** this team

A LEGIT franchise qb would do just fine with Baldwin, Breaston, DMC, Wylie, Moeaki, Charles, Draughn and Maneri as his weapons.

I honestly dont care if Bowe is the collateral damage in route to a franchise QB.

Third times a charm, **** this team

Haha, reminds me of Chiefs fans last year who were cheering so hard for this team to make the playoffs when it was clear we'd get a beating in the playoffs and would be much better served by getting a high 1st round pick to draft a top QB prospect.

Forgetting for a moment that if we lose Bowe, I'll cry and throw a baby at or out of something, Pioli's trading/drafting history gives me almost zero hope that he won't completely botch this (potential) deal.

I did as well, but was advised that we needed to get rid of all the old malcontents or something.

Well at least we got an average nickle corner and punt returner for him. Not sure how we'd get by without one of those.

As much as I'd love to draft Geno Smith at 1 and Tavon Austin with Miami's first rounder, it's not as good as Geno Smith at 1 and keeping Bowe.

Why is Clark even letting him do this shit if we're looking at new GMs?

God... ****. Just ****ing ****. Rape. Shit. ****. Titties.

Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo

I can report this: Bowe wants out of KC very badly. Not exactly a revelation, but true.

Only real plus? Without Bowe, we are a 3 win team max.

Yep, **** this team

Dude, have you seen this team? They don't care anymore.

They have 1-15 written all over them even with Bowe.

Probably been asked and answered, can Miami negotiate a deal with Bowe right now or do they have to wait until the end of the season as well?

For all those saying without Bowe our new top QB prospect would have no target to throw to. What exactly had the Washington Redskins as targets last year?? Please help me.

Yeah but they're a 3 win team with Bowe.

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

Can't blame him. RT @JasonColeYahoo I can report this: Bowe wants out of KC very badly. Not exactly a revelation, but true.

By the time he knows his shit, sure.

But it'll take him another season or so to get there and that's if he doesn't end up shell-shocked first.

Just because Luck and RGIII were turnkey QBs doesn't mean that we're going to get one in Smith, Barkley or whoever. There are far more guys like Eli Manning, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco that take a couple years to get things ironed out than there are guys like RGIII.

Even Cam Newton had Steve Smith to chuck the ball downfield to last year.

Most quarterbacks, including the guys we now think of as elite, take a little time to get there. That time is significantly diminished by having people to throw to.

Not surprising. Bowe does not want to be here so may as well try to get something for him. The good news is, that it most likely means that we will get our QBOTF. Unfortunatly it also probably means we get pussholy for 3 more years :cuss: **** you clark :cuss:Burn in hell pussholy & take your boy toy & grandpa with you :banghead:

What the **** are you blabbing about?

The 'Skins went out and signed a bunch of dudes. Do you really expect that to happen in KC with Pioli at the helm?

We aren't.

And deep down, you know it.

This is a ****ing tragedy.

I don't know. Austin would give us a dimension that I'm not sure we've ever really had, at least not in my time in KC. I'm not saying he'd be better than Bowe or that I want to get rid of Bowe, but he'd be different in a way that could ultimately be extremely beneficial. At least to a quarterback able to utilize his skillset. Have we ever had a potential gamebreaker like that? Jamaal Charles speed on the outside...

Can't blame him really. :(

Potentially, we could end up with Manti from ND if it was an extra first. That would let Berry play safety in sub-packages...

Can't say I blame him.

He's just as fed up as the fans.

Lol, they signed nothing too special. I don't even think the Chiefs receiveing core without Bowe is worse than the Skins.

In a passing league, the Chiefs top target is going to be a 5'8 slot receiver and a noodle armed QB.

What did we do to deserve this hell?

Sad but I can see it.

This

Then Pioli will just trade Derrick Johnson.

**** this guy.

Then you're ****ing stupid.

This receiver core without Bowe is bar none the worst in the NFL.

Garcon before he broke his foot was going to be a monster.

The tweet doesn't sound too confident. Potentially negotiating? Hell Scott Pioli could be potentially negotiating for RG3.