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TLO 11-05-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9085747)
Horrible, but I'm not seeing what the dogs (or the zoo workers) did wrong.

"the boy's 34-year-old mother placed the child in a standing position on a wooden railing overlooking the enclosure"

This.

Saulbadguy 11-05-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9086891)
Would you try to save your kids?

nope, they'd be dog food

Oh Snap 11-05-2012 02:15 PM

Thats terrible...These dogs are vicious. They're known for eating their prey while the prey is still alive. Hopefully the little boy didn't suffer much. :(

vailpass 11-05-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 9086976)
nope, they'd be dog food

:D I'm guessing you don't have kids?

Saulbadguy 11-05-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9087019)
:D I'm guessing you don't have kids?

What would give you that idea?

WilliamTheIrish 11-05-2012 02:23 PM

That kid was a goner the minute he hit the ground. I'll bet the poor little kid was shredded in about 20 seconds. 11 of those dogs? Good luck with the "Hey, let's go save this kid from 11 African wild dogs! Oh wait... there goes his bowel... Woa! kind of bloody... Are you guys ready? .... Never mind. He's already being defecated out by two of them.

I commend you fools who would go in. I would also commend you for not needing 6 people to be your pall bearers as they carried your (happy meal) sized coffin to your plot.

vailpass 11-05-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 9087031)
What would give you that idea?

I see your point. There's no way I could know that.

Sorter 11-05-2012 02:29 PM

LMAOLMAO
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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9087041)
That kid was a goner the minute he hit the ground. I'll bet the poor little kid was shredded in about 20 seconds. 11 of those dogs? Good luck with the "Hey, let's go save this kid from 11 African wild dogs! Oh wait... there goes his bowel... Woa! kind of bloody... Are you guys ready? .... Never mind. He's already being defecated out by two of them.

I commend you fools who would go in. I would also commend you for not needing 6 people to be your pall bearers as they carried your (happy meal) sized coffin to your plot.


Iowanian 11-05-2012 02:32 PM

Painted Dogs are the loving family Pitbulls of Africa.

Sorter 11-05-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9087088)
Painted Dogs are the loving family Pitbulls of Africa.

Really, it is just the owners fault those Painted Dogs are so aggressive.

Saulbadguy 11-05-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9087088)
Painted Dogs are the loving family Pitbulls of Africa.

they just get a bad rap.

Rasputin 11-05-2012 02:39 PM

And yet Matt Cassel lives.

Bearcat 11-05-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9087041)
That kid was a goner the minute he hit the ground. I'll bet the poor little kid was shredded in about 20 seconds. 11 of those dogs? Good luck with the "Hey, let's go save this kid from 11 African wild dogs! Oh wait... there goes his bowel... Woa! kind of bloody... Are you guys ready? .... Never mind. He's already being defecated out by two of them.

I commend you fools who would go in. I would also commend you for not needing 6 people to be your pall bearers as they carried your (happy meal) sized coffin to your plot.

Well, there were "only" 3 at first, and I doubt they were all hanging out directly below the kid... of course you could find yourself in a completely different situation 5 seconds after you land, but if I only saw a couple in that instant, I probably wouldn't spend a second trying to figure out how many were around.

tooge 11-05-2012 02:43 PM

chuck norris would get his ass kicked by 11 of those "dogs". Regardless of whether or not anyone would try to save their kid, the fact is, the child died by neglect of it's parent and she will now suffer the rest of her worthless life.

Old Dog 11-05-2012 02:45 PM

Her husband probably said, "Remember to feed the dogs" and she misunderstood.

Sorter 11-05-2012 02:46 PM

Husband should sue teh wife.

KCUnited 11-05-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9087165)
Her husband probably said, "Remember to feed the dogs" and she misunderstood.

I bet ol roy is filing for divorce.

WilliamTheIrish 11-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9087146)
Well, there were "only" 3 at first, and I doubt they were all hanging out directly below the kid... of course you could find yourself in a completely different situation 5 seconds after you land, but if I only saw a couple in that instant, I probably wouldn't spend a second trying to figure out how many were around.

I understand. It's Fight Or Flight" and if a parent didn't go in, they'd probably kill themselves from the guilt.

But those dogs are probably from 40-80lbs. The second that of them makes a squeal, the rest of the pack is there to shred the carcass. They feed that way because bigger, nastier animals will snatch their kill. Although they don't have many natural enemies.

Iowanian 11-05-2012 03:04 PM

It's too bad there weren't some parents there exercising their right to carry concealed weapons.

Sorter 11-05-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9087283)
It's too bad there weren't some parents there exercising their right to carry concealed weapons.

Why? The kid was dead. Probably before the dogs got to him.

Sorter 11-05-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9087283)
It's too bad there weren't some parents there exercising their right to carry concealed weapons.

Or do you mean on the mother?

L.A. Chieffan 11-05-2012 03:09 PM

Heres another mom of the year winner:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/young-child...2#.UJgq6MXA-So

L.A. Chieffan 11-05-2012 03:10 PM

And a nanny of the year winner:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nanny-held-...5#.UJgrJMXA-Sp

Shaid 11-05-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9085748)
Idiot ****ing mother. Irresponsible **** cost the lives of the child and the dog. The kid was more than likely killed from the fall -- why shoot the dog?

Who the **** are you? I mean WTF could possibly be going through your head on this one. Protect the ****ing dog when it's just mauled a 2 year old to death or near death and won't get away from the body? Stupidest post I've ever seen.

vailpass 11-05-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 9087764)
Who the **** are you? I mean WTF could possibly be going through your head on this one. Protect the ****ing dog when it's just mauled a 2 year old to death or near death and won't get away from the body? Stupidest post I've ever seen.

Yeah any animals that just ate a kid need to be shot on general principle.

Sorter 11-05-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9087776)
Yeah any animals that just ate a kid need to be shot on general principle.

Why? They were doing what wild predators do. They are also endangered.

vailpass 11-05-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9087798)
Why? They were doing what wild predators do. They are also endangered.

I don't have a good explanation for you. All I can tell you is if I saw an animal eat a kid and there was a gun to hand that animal just had his last meal.
No way I'm alone on this.

Richard_Cuckold 11-05-2012 06:04 PM

Just awful.

I bet the mother feels absolutely terrible( as she should). Horribly irresponsible.

memyselfI 11-05-2012 06:08 PM

I wonder how much more incited the dogs got by the hysteria and screaming of the crowd. Not that they would have been gentle and playful. No, just wondering if they were reacting to the energy they may have riled up faster and faster as more people screamed in horror. Any animal behaviorists have an opinion this.

Simply one of the most preventable horrific deaths I have ever heard.

Iowanian 11-05-2012 06:19 PM

Listen to the above poster...she knows.

African Painted dogs den in her uterus.

Sorter 11-05-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9087808)
I don't have a good explanation for you. All I can tell you is if I saw an animal eat a kid and there was a gun to hand that animal just had his last meal.
No way I'm alone on this.

I mean, I agree. I would do the same thing.

As for going back and killing the dogs later for revenge or whatever, no. In the moment to try and rescue the child, definitely.

Sorter 11-05-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9087898)
Listen to the above poster...she knows.

African Painted dogs den in her uterus.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...bvsto1_250.gif

Ceej 11-05-2012 06:31 PM

So what happens when you get down to the ground?

Super Hero Dad toss your kid back onto the platform in which they fell from?

SAUTO 11-05-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9087928)
So what happens when you get down to the ground?

Super Hero Dad toss your kid back onto the platform in which they fell from?

Die with your kid.

I would probably actually want to if I was in that exact situation. (putting my child on a fence and letting them fall)
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Ceej 11-05-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9087940)
Die with your kid.

I would probably actually want to if I was in that exact situation. (putting my child on a fence and letting them fall)
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For some reason I get a scene of Super Hero Dad jumping down and trying to use his super dad human strength to try to toss his back onto the platform in which they fell.

And of course the kid would be 3-4 inches short.

Bugeater 11-05-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9087041)
That kid was a goner the minute he hit the ground. I'll bet the poor little kid was shredded in about 20 seconds. 11 of those dogs? Good luck with the "Hey, let's go save this kid from 11 African wild dogs! Oh wait... there goes his bowel... Woa! kind of bloody... Are you guys ready? .... Never mind. He's already being defecated out by two of them.

I commend you fools who would go in. I would also commend you for not needing 6 people to be your pall bearers as they carried your (happy meal) sized coffin to your plot.

No shit...I see CP machismo is going in full effect here.

KCUnited 11-05-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9087956)
No shit...I see CP machismo is going in full effect here.

Fending off < 20% tippers and African Painted Dogs since 2000.

Sorter 11-05-2012 06:49 PM

For those who want to see what a mother ****ing golden retriever does to a human, here you go. NSFW or if you can't handle seeing tissue.



Now look at these ****ing teeth. http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...95466209_n.jpg
http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/the.../awd-teeth.jpg

If you think that you're going to be able to do anything against 11 of these guys, then you deserve what happens.

Sorter 11-05-2012 06:50 PM

LMAOLMAO
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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9087964)
Fending off < 20% tippers and African Painted Dogs since 2000.


Garcia Bronco 11-05-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 9087764)
Who the **** are you? I mean WTF could possibly be going through your head on this one. Protect the ****ing dog when it's just mauled a 2 year old to death or near death and won't get away from the body? Stupidest post I've ever seen.

Why should the dogs die because of following their natural instinct. Not to mention that they are wild animals being held prisoner. They would be slaves if they were human caged up like that. They are also property. Revenue generating property and that Zoo is entitled to damages IMO if they were destroyed.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9088011)
Why should the dogs die because of following their natural instinct. Not to mention that they are wild animals being held prisoner. They would be slaves if they were human caged up like that. They are also property. Revenue generating property and that Zoo is entitled to damages IMO if they were destroyed.

This. This. This.

QuikSsurfer 11-05-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 9087764)
Who the **** are you? I mean WTF could possibly be going through your head on this one. Protect the ****ing dog when it's just mauled a 2 year old to death or near death and won't get away from the body? Stupidest post I've ever seen.

Eh? You must be new here.
Kill a wild animal for acting like a wild animal? As it has been discussed, it's very unlikely the child would've survived the fall to begin with.
I do understand where the parents are coming from in this thread - however, nuking the zoo from orbit doesn't fix the mother's reerunation.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9088024)
Eh? nuking the zoo from orbit doesn't fix the mother's reerunation.

+rep.

Garcia Bronco 11-05-2012 07:03 PM

I think short of being some kind of backwoods- harden-dual knife welding-hunter-badass that you have no chance to survive a pack of 11 dogs. Fight or flight...so who knows how one would really respond

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9088036)
I think short of being some kind of backwoods- harden-dual knife welding-hunter-badass that you have no chance to survive a pack of 11 dogs. Fight or flight...so who knows how one would really respond

Those dogs would have been backing off looking for cover when I dropped down there, One Primal scream and they scatter.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9088054)
Those dogs would have been skull ****ing me after I dropped in and broke my ankle. Then they would eat my child.

Fixed

SAUTO 11-05-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088067)
Fixed

Probably true. But as a father I could not see not going down with my child
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Garcia Bronco 11-05-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9088054)
Those dogs would have been backing off looking for cover when I dropped down there, One Primal scream and they scatter.

You mean the scream from busting your legs?

So I've been playing Assassins Creed 3. The character actually fights a pack of wolves. It's a confusing situation and that video game is contrived. Its not even real. I couldn't imagine what it would be like. I also would not put my kid on the rail unless that shit was FOOL PROOF. I am talking an achored rope with a harness. But that sounds like work. I could probably get a good idea of what's at the zoo from their website or a google search. Shit...I wouldn't even be at a zoo. Unless you're talking about work. Some days its a zoo. We call those days, weekdays.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:22 PM

As I said earlier in the thread, I'm not a parent, so I'm not going to speculate on what I would do in that situation.

All I'm saying is that against 11, there is no chance at all for survival.
None.

****, 1 man vs a German Shepard without a weapon is a loss for a human usually. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fh8XP7bTyb8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SAUTO 11-05-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088105)
As I said earlier in the thread, I'm not a parent, so I'm not going to speculate on what I would do in that situation.

All I'm saying is that against 11, there is no chance at all for survival.
None.

****, 1 man vs a German Shepard without a weapon is a loss for a human usually. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fh8XP7bTyb8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Oh yeah you would probably die too. But who would WANT to live after basically being the major contributing factor in your child's death?
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KCUnited 11-05-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9088116)
Oh yeah you would probably die too. But who would WANT to live after basically being the major contributing factor in your child's death?
Posted via Mobile Device

Someone with more than 1 kid.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:26 PM

Not me. Then again, I'm not a complete ****ing waste to society and wouldn't endanger my child like that.

The mom needs to be thrown into the pit IMO.

Sorter 11-05-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9088124)
Someone with more than 1 kid.

Or this I suppose. If I had several children, I probably wouldn't. But really, I have no ****ing clue. :)

SAUTO 11-05-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9088124)
Someone with more than 1 kid.

Maybe. But then you have to look at your other kids knowing they know what happened
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ThaVirus 11-05-2012 09:01 PM

I could take a couple of African painted dogs if it came down to it.

No joke.

Easy 6 11-05-2012 09:09 PM

The bottom line for the naysayers, who say that its all a bunch of bluster... if my ex had been stupid enough to do that... I'M GOING IN, the hell with bluster.

Grab the nearest thing you can find, a ladies purse, whatever... and go live or die with your baby child.

Who knows, an animalistic, raging, purse slamming display in front of a bunch of wild dogs, that are also well used to taking atleast some kind of direction from humans... might just save the day.

If not, die with your kid... or live the rest of your life in torment.

Phobia 11-05-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9087287)
Why? The kid was dead. Probably before the dogs got to him.

Nope. Coroner said dogs caused death today.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:14 PM

A simple SIT UBU, SIT! would have sufficed.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9088614)
I could take a couple of African painted dogs if it came down to it.

No joke.

http://i39.tinypic.com/298s2c.jpg

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9088651)
Nope. Coroner said dogs caused death today.

Did they say the extent of the injuries sustained from the fall?

KChiefer 11-05-2012 09:25 PM

Someone with more than 1 kid probably had enough of a scare with the first one that they wouldn't stand their next kid on a railing without an iron grip on them.

Shaid 11-05-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9088011)
Why should the dogs die because of following their natural instinct. Not to mention that they are wild animals being held prisoner. They would be slaves if they were human caged up like that. They are also property. Revenue generating property and that Zoo is entitled to damages IMO if they were destroyed.

Did I say to kill all 11 dogs? There's a dog next to the kid's mauled body. Do they know for sure if the kids alive or not yet? Kill it if it won't move so you have a chance to save the kid. Also, this is an 11 foot drop, it's a ways for a little kid to drop but to say he died from the fall is a stretch. I guarantee he probably broke an arm or a leg and was probably hurt pretty bad but you do whatever you can do if there is any chance the kid's still alive. Any chance.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088708)
Did they say the extent of the injuries sustained from the fall?

Oddly enough there was a reporter down at the bottom that asked the kid how he was doing. His reply was "I've never felt better in my entire life"

Pitt Gorilla 11-05-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9088650)
The bottom line for the naysayers, who say that its all a bunch of bluster... if my ex had been stupid enough to do that... I'M GOING IN, the hell with bluster.

Grab the nearest thing you can find, a ladies purse, whatever... and go live or die with your baby child.

Who knows, an animalistic, raging, purse slamming display in front of a bunch of wild dogs, that are also well used to taking atleast some kind of direction from humans... might just save the day.

If not, die with your kid... or live the rest of your life in torment.

I agree. If I saw my child go in, I'm going in as well. Zero question about that. If it's someone else's child, I'm not sure. If I found a large weapon, sure. If not, I don't know.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9088761)
Oddly enough there was a reporter down at the bottom that asked the kid how he was doing. His reply was "I've never felt better in my entire life"

Autopsies are wonderful things :)

ThaVirus 11-05-2012 09:40 PM

They're knee-high and like 60 pounds with a mouth. They don't have claws like a lion..

I'd be stomping and booting their brains in if a small child were in the mix.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9088818)
They're knee-high and like 60 pounds with a mouth. They don't have claws like a lion..

I'd be stomping and booting their brains in if a small child were in the mix.

Bwahahaha

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9088818)
They're knee-high and like 60 pounds with a mouth. They don't have claws like a lion..

I'd be stomping and booting their brains in if a small child were in the mix.

I've been trying to explain that all it takes is a set of balls and them dogs would have to be put down.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9087983)
For those who want to see what a mother ****ing golden retriever does to a human, here you go. NSFW or if you can't handle seeing tissue.



Now look at these ****ing teeth. http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...95466209_n.jpg
http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/the.../awd-teeth.jpg

If you think that you're going to be able to do anything against 11 of these guys, then you deserve what happens.

Bump for the internet bad-ass.

kcpasco 11-05-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9088818)
They're knee-high and like 60 pounds with a mouth. They don't have claws like a lion..

I'd be stomping and booting their brains in if a small child were in the mix.

A pack of those can take down big game, I doubt 1 man could do much.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088831)
Bump for the internet bad-ass.

Them dogs are just frontin' on the webz.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:44 PM

1 man gets raped/eaten/****ed by an angry German Shepard and these TUF warriors think that they are taking out a group of 11 animals that routinely chase off/fight hyenas and leopards?

I mean, even BlackBob isn't dumb enough to argue this shit. LMAO

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9088838)
Them dogs are just frontin' on the webz.

now I feel silly. trololololo

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088847)
now I feel silly. trololololo

It's a process..... Your choice to be a ...Oh never mind.

ThaVirus 11-05-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 9088835)
A pack of those can take down big game, I doubt 1 man could do much.

Yeah, probably wouldn't kill them, but I feel like I'd have a decent enough chance to fend them off for at least a minute until help arrived.

Animals are a lot like people. If they realize they could get hurt, they'll back off. That's what I'd be hoping for anyway..

Seems to me you'd just need to make sure they didn't get a hold of your neck, otherwise you're ****ed.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9088858)
It's a process..... Your choice to be a ...Oh never mind.

ROFL, just spit chew out laughing at this.

I really need to stop chewing whilst visiting this site. :eek:

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9088863)
Yeah, probably wouldn't kill them, but I feel like I'd have a decent enough chance to fend them off for at least a minute until help arrived.

Animals are a lot like people. If they realize they could get hurt, they'll back off. That's what I'd be hoping for anyway..

Seems to me you'd just need to make sure they didn't get a hold of your neck, otherwise you're ****ed.

Oh god, you're serious. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ko53zcxv1qmsrb7.gif

ThaVirus 11-05-2012 09:51 PM

Also, Wikipedia says their main meals are impalas and gazelles. Those things aren't fierce at all. It does say they hunt bigger game, like humans and zebra from time to time but their success rate isn't good. It says it takes a seriously coordinated effort in which the biggest male latches onto the nose while one hangs on the tail and the others try to dismember it.

I've seen videos of lions taking an hour to kill a wildebeest (they go for strangulation so it's a bit different, but still). If you could at least hurt a couple of them and make them think twice, you might be able to buy time for the trainers to get there.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088865)
ROFL, just spit chew out laughing at this.

I really need to stop chewing whilst visiting this site. :eek:

Then I won't even mention anything about the right 53.

ThaVirus 11-05-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9088868)

Yes, sir.

Obviously I don't know shit about how it would actually go down, but I'm sure stranger things have happened.


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