Yep exactly. I was still pissed when they drafted him though.

5%? That's not right. A dominant defensive tackle can control much more than that. Obviously a qb would be more, but a dominant pass rusher from the defensive tackle position is pretty awesome and important.

I wasn't as high on tannehill simple because I didn't watch a whole lot of him, I just didn't know much about him.

That's a ridiculous comment. Nose Tackles are the heart of any 3-4 defense and we've said that a million times. And Poe isn't even a traditional Nose Tackle. He's a Nose Tackle with potential to one day play multiple techniques, which is crucial in the modern 3-4. If he becomes a great Nose Tackle, this pick is an absolute steal and you know it.

We all know QB is important, but let's not start this tirade against any pick that isn't a QB. Yeah, drafting offensive linemen, 5-techs, safeties, and running backs are safe picks at 1.1. Drafting a raw talent like Poe is exactly the kind of boom/bust pick we should ahve been making more of. I think it's silly to be critical of the pick, especially if the negative commentary was that he shouldn't have been picked because he was raw.

A little premature for people to get hyped up about Tannehill. He had a 12/13 TD/INT ratio last year. What I saw is a guy with good not elite arm strength. Good but not even close to elite athleticism. And a guy with really small hands, which is going to be a problem in cold weather and messy conditions.

I'm not as sold on Tannehill as others. I think he has upside to be a middle-of-the-road QB at best. I guess that's an upgrade, but I don't think he has franchise QB written all over him.

Was thinking this as well. There were some games and moments when I felt this guy can develop into a good one. Other times, he looked like a mess. 58 completion %... 5 games last season at a 50 or less passer rating.. 9 games under a 75... 25 years old already..

eh...

Like I said, I don't know much about the guy other than the few games at a&m I watched. I knew we wouldn't take him so I didn't really get too invested there, so I won't comment one way I another.

I think tannehill, from the little I did see, would be balls awesome in shanny's system.

It's Stephenson over Wilson tht stings the most.

Not good enough. Too short.

Seriously, get help.

Even the most impactful pass rushers don't change the outcome of more than 1 in 10 plays. I'm talking stops, sacks, QB hits, etc.Let's not act as if Poe is gonna be JJ Watt here. The 5% number is far more reasonable than you realize.

But, just for the sake of argument, let's push that number to 10% so you can sleep better at night...that amount of impact pales in comparison to the impact a young quarterback gives you if you hit on the pick.

Tanehill ran the second fastest operating offense in football (NE was first) as a rookie and oozed composure and accuracy while cementing himself as the unquestioned leader of his team.

If you wouldn't trade Poe and Allen for him, you need to stop drinking kool aid.

Oozed composure an accuracy? With a 12/13 td:int ratio?

So now because someone doesn't like EVERY qb prospect coming out, they're an idiot?

Hey, I already bought tickets to a couple games and am looking forward to a watchable year of football for the first time in awhile...I just think we keep passing on opportunities to significantly impact the team and give them a chance at what should be every teams ultimate goal.

Having a 10+ year window by drafting a quarterback high in the draft that gives you a chance every year.

Sorry that you disagree.

You're ****ing crazy if you're serious. Wilson is a beast

We get it. Qbs are impact players. I'm not a fan of the Tannehill pick but I would have been okay with it. Ultimately, I think you have a QB with matt Ryan upside. You could do a lot worse, but you could do a lot better.

But look... This idea of ragging on every pick that isn't a QB is ludicrous. Rag on safe picks like fisher, berry, or Tyson Jackson. Don't rag on guys like Poe who has the potential to be a very good, bona fide top 10 pick.

First off, I was kidding.

Secondly, please link me to a post where I disagreed with that? I fully agree with that statement, but I also realize that there wasn't a qb necessarily worth that high pick this year, which yes is debatable.

I don't necessarily agree that the drafted qb has to come from high in the draft, it just has to be the right qb. Don't care where he comes from.

You keep coming up with these false arguments just to argue.

I got work to do. I'll follow up later.

Let's not try so hard to create strawmen though.

Alex Smith sucks.

Eric Fisher sucks.

Terrence Copper rules.

How about just Poe and Wilson?

So you telling me I'm an true fan drinking the kool aid because I don't agree that passing on geno smith at 1.1 an trading fr Alex smith and picking up Tyler bray is an horrendous mistake that will haunt the franchise for years.

That the straw man your talking about?

Just because I'm not all up in arms about our qb situation and not pissed at every qb we passed on doesn't mean I don't want this franchise to heavily invest in the qb position.

I didn't say any of that JFC.

If there weren't any quarterbacks they liked, fine. No problem. I don't agree with that opinion, but I can at least understand it.

But at least find a way to significantly upgrade the team with the top pick in the draft.

Jettisoning Branden Albert and Eric Winston to make room for Eric Fisher is completely wasting that pick, though because the difference between Albert and Fisher isn't the wide chasm that a first overall pick should be helping fill.

Austin would have made this offense extremely hard to defend on offense and special teams.

Richardson would have given us multiple bulls on the DL.

Ansah, Jordan or Mingo would have given our pass rush a big time boost in sub packages and given us options when Hali hangs em up as he is already getting up there in age.

Vaccaro would have made a lot of sense....especially if we took the Dolphins trade offer that was given to Oakland and added another second rounder.

Staying at 1 and drafting Fisher was a mistake, quarterback or no quarterback.

Herb Taylor - Forgotten too soon

Then what the hell are we talking about?


I've never advocated for fisher being the pick. I guess I was just confused as to what we were arguing about

I hope Reid can get you guys to the playoffs.

I don't think anyone us arguing that. I just think it's silly to get riled up about picks that were well slotted, ad Poe was.

RIP, Herb.

That's the spirit!