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ShowtimeSBMVP 12-06-2012 09:27 PM

Ball game next week is huge

siberian khatru 12-06-2012 09:27 PM

Palmer you stupid ****

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 09:27 PM

http://cjzero.com/gifs/RaidersFans.gif

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:30 PM

well my worst ****ing nightmare happened...Denver blows out the Raiders and Peyton has a shitty fantasy day

Quesadilla Joe 12-06-2012 09:31 PM

I know we just scored there but short yardage is where we REALLY miss McGahee. He is a very special short yardage back, probably the best in the league in that area. Denver's OL can't really maul you and drive you back so we need a guy like McGahee who can find something when there isn't really much to work with.

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:32 PM

Willis McGahee is the best short yardage back in the league?

My ****ing christ dude.

petegz28 12-06-2012 09:34 PM

I think Oakland is worse than KC...if that's possible

1ChiefsDan 12-06-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186692)
Willis McGahee is the best short yardage back in the league?

My ****ing christ dude.

ROFL
Stupid is as knowmo posts.

ThaVirus 12-06-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9186689)
I know we just scored there but short yardage is where we REALLY miss McGahee. He is a very special short yardage back, probably the best in the league in that area. Denver's OL can't really maul you and drive you back so we need a guy like McGahee who can find something when there isn't really much to work with.

KnowMo.. Dude.. Shut the hell up.

McGahee's not even a top 15 back and certainly not number 1 in ANY facet of running back-(ness?) (dom?)

Quesadilla Joe 12-06-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186692)
Willis McGahee is the best short yardage back in the league?

My ****ing christ dude.

That is what he is best at. He's a bigger back at 235-240 pounds and he has tremendous patience and vision in short yardage. The Ravens took Ray freaking Rice out of the game in short yardage situations when McGahee was there, that is how good McGahee is.

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:42 PM

McGahee might be a notch better than Joseph Addai. Pretty sure Jackie Battle would be great as the change-up option in a Peyton Manning offense...like any other back with a pulse.

MahiMike 12-06-2012 09:42 PM

I can't help but think this Dennis Allen guy is pretty sharp and yet the Raiders still suck.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-06-2012 09:43 PM

Denver is gonna win the AFC West by 6 games LOL

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:44 PM

this is a ****ing nightmare biggest fantasy week of the season and I can't get a god damn TD pass out of Manning...instead I get 9 GD field goals

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 09:49 PM

Say whatever you want about Peyton's choking history in the playoffs.

He has never had a defense like this one.

New England and even the Ravens don't have a defense like this.

Houston's pretty awesome on D so I think it comes down to Denver and Houston. But it really depends on if Houston wins their first game. You never know.

007 12-06-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9186288)
I hope Oakland wins. Too bad they absolutely won't.

FYP

Chiefs Pantalones 12-06-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186737)
Say whatever you want about Peyton's choking history in the playoffs.

He has never had a defense like this one.

New England and even the Ravens don't have a defense like this.

Houston's pretty awesome on D so I think it comes down to Denver and Houston. But it really depends on if Houston wins their first game. You never know.

They are not beating the Pats.

Sorter 12-06-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186737)
Say whatever you want about Peyton's choking history in the playoffs.

He has never had a defense like this one.

New England and even the Ravens don't have a defense like this.

Houston's pretty awesome on D so I think it comes down to Denver and Houston. But it really depends on if Houston wins their first game. You never know.

2006 says hello...

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9186740)
They are not beating the Pats.

The Pats are the biggest paper tiger I've seen in awhile.

That team won't win a single playoff game.

Especially w/out Gronk.

Sorter 12-06-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186743)
The Pats are the biggest paper tiger I've seen in awhile.

That team won't win a single playoff game.

Especially w/out Gronk.

ROFL

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:53 PM

if someone other than Brady or Manning represent the AFC in the Super Bowl this year I'll be shocked.

Sorter 12-06-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186746)
if someone other than Brady or Manning represent the AFC in the Super Bowl this year I'll be shocked.

I could see Schaub.

Al Bundy 12-06-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186743)
The Pats are the biggest paper tiger I've seen in awhile.

That team won't win a single playoff game.

Especially w/out Gronk.

What the **** do you know about what a playoff game winning team looks like?

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:54 PM

I would not be surprised one bit if Houston and Atlanta were one and done.

The NFC is really, really WIDE open...I could see 7 or 8 teams representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Tentatively, I'm predicting Giants/Broncos (just because the NFL deserves a Manning bowl)

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9186747)
I could see Schaub.

I just don't see Matt Schaub in the Super Bowl. I like him, he's good...but he'd be the worst QB to go to a Super Bowl in a really long time.

Sorter 12-06-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186750)
I just don't see Matt Schaub in the Super Bowl. I like him, he's good...but he'd be the worst QB to go to a Super Bowl in a really long time.

I agree.

That team is ****ing loaded though. If they can get healthy in the secondary for the playoffs...JFC. :drool:

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:57 PM

and Peyton Manning masked a lot of really, really dreadful Indianapolis teams.

This Denver team wasn't built around Peyton Manning...they have a legit, legit, SUPER legit defense like Claythan said.

Manning and a defense in the playoffs? Shit the last time his defense showed up for him he won the Super Bowl against the Bears.

If someone put a gun to my head and said pick the Super Bowl winner and if you're wrong you're dead...I'd take Denver.

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186750)
I just don't see Matt Schaub in the Super Bowl. I like him, he's good...but he'd be the worst QB to go to a Super Bowl in a really long time.

Worse than Rex Grossman?

Worse than Matt Hasselbeck?

Don't think so.

GloryDayz 12-06-2012 09:57 PM

JC...

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:57 PM

and I don't really care what anyone says about Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne...Manning has never had a throw it up and see what happens kind of player like he has with Demaryius.

GloryDayz 12-06-2012 09:58 PM

He prolly just wants SOMEBODY to catch one of his passes!

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186758)
and I don't really care what anyone says about Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne...Manning has never had a throw it up and see what happens kind of player like he has with Demaryius.

Yup. And in my opinion, Manning is getting better every week. He's still recovering.

tk13 12-06-2012 09:58 PM

New England dominated Denver when they met. Although I'm guessing in a playoff game it'll probably be tighter, but still. GoChiefs just wants to be able to make fun of the Patriots.

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186755)
Worse than Rex Grossman?

Worse than Matt Hasselbeck?

Don't think so.

probably comparable to those two

in 2006 Grossman was either really good, or really bad...nothing in between

so I'd definitely take Schaub over Grossman but again...Grossman was 7 years ago...Hasselbeck was probably the exact same player as Schaub back when the Seahawks went...what a great comparison really

saphojunkie 12-06-2012 09:59 PM

I'm so angry we didn't get Von Miller.

Strongside 12-06-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186755)
Worse than Rex Grossman?

Worse than Matt Hasselbeck?

Don't think so.

Yeah, Rex Grossman was just....Gross, man.

Hootie 12-06-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9186761)
New England dominated Denver when they met. Although I'm guessing in a playoff game it'll probably be tighter, but still. GoChiefs just wants to be able to make fun of the Patriots.

I don't think that really matters at this point in the season. I'd say Denver is a totally different team...and will Gronk be truly healthy when he plays?

A healthy Gronk probably would have equalled a Pats super bowl win last year.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:01 PM

2006 was probably Grossman's best year...he did a lot of good things.

Unfortunately, he also did a lot of really bad things, too.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:02 PM

I know nobody gives two flying shits about fantasy football or my fantasy football team...but this is the #1 reason why I'd take Brady over Manning every year...Manning plays to win football games...and they are always ****ing winning by so much you get three damn quarters of play out of him before they are killing the clock.

Brady...doesn't matter if they are up by 50 they are still chucking it.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:03 PM

at this point just get me 15 more Decker yards and I'll call it a success

kcpasco 12-06-2012 10:04 PM

Well I guess we will have a better idea next week when Denver plays Baltimore.

I'm predicting the Ravens in that game.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:05 PM

I think the Ravens are pure garbage. Flacco is only good at home...he is just god awful on the road.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:05 PM

pure garbage may be an overstatement but I don't think they are very good...

the NFC >>>> AFC

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9186755)
Worse than Rex Grossman?

Worse than Matt Hasselbeck?

Don't think so.

Motivated/Prime Hasselbeck wasn't turrible :)

tk13 12-06-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186766)
I don't think that really matters at this point in the season. I'd say Denver is a totally different team...and will Gronk be truly healthy when he plays?

A healthy Gronk probably would have equalled a Pats super bowl win last year.

The AFC is terrible. There's literally 3-4 decent teams. Manning's getting better but part of this is the first part of their schedule was tough. They haven't played an elite team in like 10 weeks.

I guess we'll find out against Baltimore next week... although Manning has always played the Ravens well.

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:06 PM

I'm surprised more people aren't acknowledging the Edelman injury. I think that is going to hurt them more than most anticipate.

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:08 PM

Sorter, who is the chick in your sig/avatar?

007 12-06-2012 10:09 PM

damn, looks like Cox blocks streaming from first row sports. This sucks.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9186786)
I'm surprised more people aren't acknowledging the Edelman injury. I think that is going to hurt them more than most anticipate.

why? He's had one good week...and they played half the year without him already.

as long as Hernandez and Welker are healthy Tom will still move the ball.

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9186789)
Sorter, who is the chick in your sig/avatar?

uh....



well....

Wildcat2005 12-06-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9186789)
Sorter, who is the chick in your sig/avatar?

boxxy

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186791)
why? He's had one good week...and they played half the year without him already.

as long as Hernandez and Welker are healthy Tom will still move the ball.

Special teams he's a monster for them. In both returns but even more so on KO coverage.

Offensively, he provides pretty god depth provided Hernandez/Welker got hurt.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:17 PM

Palmer's stats make him look so much better than he really is...he truly is the junk time king. He's another reason why looking at just the stats doesn't really paint an entire picture.

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186805)
Palmer's stats make him look so much better than he really is...he truly is the junk time king. He's another reason why looking at just the stats doesn't really paint an entire picture.

Statistics can always be manipulated.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186306)
Denver 35
Oakland 13

Peyton goes for 300 and 4 TD's...2 to Demaryius, 1 to Stokely, 1 to Decker

1 pick 6 for the Broncos as well

halftime score 21-3

well I got the score about right...nothing ****ing else though

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 9186796)
boxxy

Gracias.

Quesadilla Joe 12-06-2012 10:26 PM

This is why I still love Knowshon Moreno. He is a fighter. He may not be a stud but he is definitely a guy any team would love to have. He is a willing pass blocker, a good receiver, and he just runs hard.

Sorter 12-06-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9186819)
This is why I still love Knowshon Moreno. He is a fighter. He may not be a stud but he definitely a guy any team would love to cut. He is a shitty pass blocker, an average receiver, and he just fumbles.

Fixed.

Hammock Parties 12-06-2012 10:29 PM

Welp, there you have it folks.

Next week is for all the marbles.

All one of them.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:30 PM

I think we'll lose to Cleveland.

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:31 PM

Victory formation, on the Raider 13 yard line, at the two minute warning. Not bad. They were ugly and inefficient in the red zone but I'll take it.

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9186819)
This is why I still love Knowshon Moreno. He is a fighter. He may not be a stud but he is definitely a guy any team would love to have. He is a willing pass blocker, a good receiver, and he just runs hard.

He gets better as he gets more carries and settles down. Still too much indecision in the backfield.

Wildcat2005 12-06-2012 10:34 PM

Im not sure if I have ever seen anyone trip over their own feet more than Moreno

Seems like it is rubbing off on Decker as bit as well

tk13 12-06-2012 10:36 PM

Manning's helmet is so tight it looks like he's burned his forehead.

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9186842)
Manning's helmet is so tight it looks like he's burned his forehead.

He has a giant football brain.

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9186842)
Manning's helmet is so tight it looks like he's burned his forehead.

Yeah, the revolution helmet was invented by accident when Riddell was attempting to figure out how to make a helmet that would fit Peyton's head.

Quesadilla Joe 12-06-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9186834)
He gets better as he gets more carries and settles down. Still too much indecision in the backfield.

Yeah he can be indecisive at times and he does stumble over his feet at least once a game. He has his flaws, but he does a lot of things very well and you can never question his effort.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:41 PM

I think I could run for 100 yards with Peyton Manning as my QB...he's just a plug and play back...nothing to write home about. I bet there are 100 unemployed running backs that could have performed as good as Knowshon did tonight with that gameplan with that QB under center.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:41 PM

out of all the reasons I'd be happy about being a Denver fan this year Knowshon Moreno would not be one of them.

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:42 PM

2 things: Shut the **** up Raiders fans, and Von Miller looks like he's straight from 1974.

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9186849)
Yeah he can be indecisive at times and he does stumble over his feet at least once a game. He has his flaws, but he does a lot of things very well and you can never question his effort.

He gave up valuable yards tonight, turning 1-3 yard gains into 0-3 yard losses. He made some good plays later in the game. It's a wash. We need our starter to be more than a wash if we are going to win playoff games.

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9186858)
2 things: Shut the **** up Raiders fans, and Von Miller looks like he's straight from 1974.

Yeah. Miller is incredible.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9186863)
He gave up valuable yards tonight, turning 1-3 yard gains into 0-3 yard losses. He made some good plays later in the game. It's a wash. We need our starter to be more than a wash if we are going to win playoff games.

wrong

if you're going to win playoff games, you need Peyton Manning to be Peyton Manning and the defense to play like it can

the guy running the ball means nada to your playoff success

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9186867)
Yeah. Miller is incredible.

Wish he was on our team. He reminds me so much of DT...and everyone else sees that as well. Hali and Houston are an awesome combo, but Miller would be great to have too.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:46 PM

Terrell Davis could suit up and average 3 YPC when Manning is at QB.

saphojunkie 12-06-2012 10:46 PM

Hearing them say that Von Miller wears #58 for Derrick Thomas was a little too much for me to bear.

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:47 PM

I wish we had Von Miller. And RGIII. And Calvin Johnson. And Jimmy Graham. And Rob Gronkowski. And Joe Haden.

Strongside 12-06-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9186875)
I wish we had Von Miller. And RGIII. And Calvin Johnson. And Jimmy Graham. And Rob Gronkowski. And Joe Haden.

But we have Terrance Copper, Javier Arenas and Jalil Brown. Why would you want those guys?

Hootie 12-06-2012 10:49 PM

I forgot to mention Greg Zeurlein and Digger Phelps (as our color guy)

listopencil 12-06-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9186870)
Wish he was on our team. He reminds me so much of DT...and everyone else sees that as well. Hali and Houston are an awesome combo, but Miller would be great to have too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9186874)
Hearing them say that Von Miller wears #58 for Derrick Thomas was a little too much for me to bear.


Not sure how well known this is among fans of other teams, but DT was Miller's idol growing up. That's why he wears #58.


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