Exactly.

RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?

There is no Luck. There rarely if ever is. That said, it's time to take the shot and Geno is the Top Man for the gig.

Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year.

You never "know" anything as there is always risk with any player no matter what someone says.

Other than that whole winning the Heisman thing. let's not rewrite history.

Well, if you haven ability at all in evaluating QBs, it would seem fairly easy to see that Geno is a better prospect and more complete of a passer than Ryan, Stafford, Bradford, Tannehill Weeden, Wilson, Newton, Flacco, etc.

How do "we" know if Geno is that good? Well, why don't you start by watching some ****ing games. Youtube is a wonderful free entity that might help you out there.

I don't know how you define "elite QB prospect" but he's the best prospect not named RG3 or Luck to come out in quite some time. So, for me, he's elite.

Do you think all of those are elite now?

I might argue with you on a couple of them not being considered elite at draft time, but that is not the path I want to go down.

Because everyone expects Heisman winning QB's to be special in the NFL. Go back and check mock drafts from this time last year. Hell there was a debate on if we should take him at 11 if he was there.

You heard all the usual crap. "He's a running QB." "He plays in the spread." "The offense and/or WR's are the reason for his numbers".

Let's not rewrite history that him and Luck were 1A and 1B all season long.

As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.

:banghead: I should have read one post further down.

This I'll concede. Our coaching staff( along with management, ownership, hot dog vendors etc.)is absolute dogshit and twice as useless.

Tony Dungy won a Super Bowl. Lovie Smith and Bill Callahan coached in Super Bowls.

Without the QB, coaching means nothing.

And with the RIGHT QB, even mediocre coaches can win it all.

Brees got hurt, and they were not sure he would recover from the injury.

They need to take the one that they think is best, not the one the Bills didn't pick. Just once, just ****ing once, go all in on a QB.

I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.

I guess it depends on what you mean by special. Nobody was saying he would do in the NFL what he is doing right now for sure.

No. QB is the only choice for this team. They get the pick of the litter with the #1 overall so, trading out of that spot and hoping your guy will be there when you do finally pick is stupid IMO. Identify who you think "the man" is and take him.

QB may not fix everything thats wrong with this team but, it can fix a whole helluva lot

Speak for yourself.

The guys who didn't know RG3 would be this good are McShay and Kiper.

He was at the bottom of the first on both guys big boards last year this time.

Thisthisthisthis!!

Who the **** would we draft with those extra picks?

Keep in mind that very likely 75% of those new guys won't work out. That's IF we got a deal like the Rams got for the 2nd overall last year.

I'd rather have the better QB.

Damn I hope Pioli is fired. He is probably all excited at the prospect of making a deal with the Bills as we speak.

Lol, this whole thing sounds like they think they can trade back into the first from the second.

Like taking a qb that slips.

"moving up a round"
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This offseason could cause CP to go Chernobyl

Let's say it's a best case scenario of a trade back and we move back to 4-6 and get the haul the Rams got of 2 first rounders and a second IN ADDITION TO THE 6th overall. At that point, we are talking about Aaron Murray, Matt Barkley, Glennon, Nassib, Jones, Thomas and a couple others as possibilities for the pick.

**** all that noise. I'm sick and tired of this team settling for second best at quarterback and building a team around quarterbacks that are "good enough" It's time to start the Geno to Bowe era in KC.

Didn't the bills overpay Fitzpatrick already?

I feel so woefully underprepared for the CP mock draft this year because my entire focus and attention has been on QBs-- in discussion on and off CP and when I watch games. At least the last few years I was forced to bear the thought of the Chiefs going another year without a QB, so I got to know as many players as I could. Now that's all ****ing gone.

So admittedly, I have no clue who it is we could pick up in addition to our Grade 2 QB. At this point, I don't even really ****ing care. Bringing aboard Smith (and I would accept Wilson too) is of such tantamount importance that it doesn't ****ing matter.

Did it matter who the Colts picked up in last year's draft? **** no. Colts fans looked at the rest of the draft and said, "Okay... a new TE? Sweet. A NT? Awesome. Cool..... yeah..... and HOLY SHIT WE GOT ANDREW LUCK!"

Maybe it's because I have no ****ing clue what direction we're going to move in. Pioli and Crennel are going to be gone. Who we hire as replacements is anybody's guess, but you can bet your ass they'll be changing shit up. I have no idea if another defensive line rebuild would be advantageous starting in the second round, or if we should stock up on secondary, or maybe find some flashy as **** offensive playmakers.

This is a long-winded way of saying I don't ****ing give a ****ing shit about more picks. This is kind of a shit draft overall. I really don't care about the nameless faces I don't know that we could add to our CBs and LBs and WRs. I just don't ****ing give a shit.

Geno Smith or get ****ed.

I'm not thinking like that.

I'm thinking we trade out of the 1st overall slot down and still grab our 1st round QB.

I'm not saying we should do it, but I'm thinking what if they did and still managed to draft their QB? Get a couple of 1st rounders in the process maybe throw in the fact that the Chiefs will have a few 2nd rounders. And then let's say they scored on half of those extra picks?

Yeah I want the QB too. But you know what? It's more than a QB, I'm thinking greedy here, I want a ****ing QB, a LBer, another DB and some damn good WRs and OL on top.

Find the best QB. Draft the best QB 1st overall. Win.

Fitzpatrick sucks

About like we overpaid Cassel

What if they did and managed to get a handful of dogshit on no QB?

It could go either way but I'm thinking big

Not really.

In his 1st December mock draft, Todd McShay had RG3 going THIRTY SECOND.

The "nobody thought RG3 was anything special this time last year" is ABSOLUTELY true when it comes to the pundits.

Now if you're talking about this and other message boards, lots of people thought he was special.

But Kiper, McShay, and all these idiots saying there's no QB worth a 1st round pick this year had RG3 at the BOTTOM of their first round this time last year.

You're being greedy. That's a good way to end up with an ILB, OT, and NO ****ING QB.

Meanwhile, some of the CP prognosticators correctly predicted that he would go much much earlier.

:LOL:

It's a good way to end up with a QB, an ILB and NO ****ING OT.

We are going to get it dont worry:p It's our time baby!

NFP had him at 5 on 12/7/11. Kiper had him at 4 in January.

So no, 'nobody thought RGIII was anything special at this time last year" is bullshit. I'm right.

Honestly, there are some days I wish the server would melt down and not get replaced for a few months.


Talking Chiefs football on here for the last 6 years usually ends up pissing me off.

Tony Pauline of SI also had him at 12 the first week of November. By December he had climbed even more (I also found the NFP rating you did).

I'm sure all CHunt sees are dollar signs.... They'll pay him by stuffing coin in an offshore account... I suspect he's thinking about it and planning on using the, "It's not a good draft class" excuse as his justification to line his pockets yet again...

^^This.

Not sure that telling everyone that this is the time to trade up for a QB is the right thing to do, but at least Nix isn't saying "Ryan Fitzpatrick is our starting QB, and I think everyone knows that".

Why are people so dumb?

Pioli is done.

for once could you compose a post that makes sense?
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Yep, no way he survives this. If he does, clark will have proven beyond a shaddow of a doubt that he is in way over his head and I will put serious thought into turning in my fan card.

In year 4, on coach #2, after "22 guys off the street could win two games", Pioli's likely to have a team that wins...2 games.

He's done. He won't be drafting anyone this spring.

And that reeruned trade partner is Pioli...

Further proving at the end of the day, these two are worth less than a bag of dickhammers.
This. This right here.

I'm not a Smith fan. At all.

DO NOT WANT.

That said we get a new GM ready to build around the QB I'll shut my mouf and love grooming anyone...

Sir, this is one of those times where your opinion veers in to "useless bag o' dickhammers" territory. I've been there too. It's okay.:D

I'm ok with being wrong as long as wrong means TRYING...

We're no longer trying. We're canning this abortion of management, drafting Geno, and shall commence DOING.

:clap:

If we miss on a first round QB this year, three years later rinse/repeat. I have no problem with the Chiefs struggling for a time if it means they're finally serious about getting a QB they can develop.

I won't totally disagree but they are not just projecting talent but how that talent will equate into the NFL.
Has any NFL team every been successful running the spread option type of offense that they are using in Washington? Not that I can remember.
I am not saying Griffin can't run a "normal" offense. But I don't think he would be nearly as successful in a WC, Coryell, etc. that we see run by most teams.

If Griffin and the skins can't figure out a way to better protect him Griffin won't last long. 13 games into the season and already a concussion and knee injury.

...geno and the chiefs fan base...all night long

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LMAO